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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#1301 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:21 PM

There we go, Hormonal is back on the market as I dropped it. I originally intended to open up a lover convo with Okaros to privately discuss the possibility that Anthras was scum (not SK, but regular scum), but then all the voting and lynching and freezing happened.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:22 PM

Delayed by another TWO hours now.

#1303 User is offline   Hentos Ilm 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:26 PM

@ Ryll:

Okaros couldn't drop Cryo if Korv was frozen per its text. You cannot take a contract unless you don't have one, so relinquish + claim. That was impossible for him. Ergo: Okaros couldn't take the serial killer one.

vote Ryllandaras

We still have 1 scum amongst the group 2 players, my guess is Karatallid.

#1304 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:29 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

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@ Ryll:

Okaros couldn't drop Cryo if Korv was frozen per its text. You cannot take a contract unless you don't have one, so relinquish + claim. That was impossible for him. Ergo: Okaros couldn't take the serial killer one.

vote Ryllandaras

We still have 1 scum amongst the group 2 players, my guess is Karatallid.



If Korv was telling the truth, then you're righ. However, that only makes Okaros irritating, rather than irritating scum.

Why does this lead to voting me?

#1305 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:31 PM

I'm getting the distinct feeling that I'm being taken advantage of because you all know who I am, and so think 'oh hey, well, 'he' would do that kind of thing', rather than playing from the thread. For which, fuck you very much. And in a game where people can be brought back, the CF shouldn't include the identity of the player.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:34 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

1400012777[/url]' post='1124723']
@ Ryll:

Okaros couldn't drop Cryo if Korv was frozen per its text. You cannot take a contract unless you don't have one, so relinquish + claim. That was impossible for him. Ergo: Okaros couldn't take the serial killer one.

vote Ryllandaras

We still have 1 scum amongst the group 2 players, my guess is Karatallid.




So wait, you think there's two scum left to find? What makes you so certain?

#1307 User is offline   Hentos Ilm 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:35 PM

Okaros couldn't drop the contract Cryo to take the serial killer one because Okaros was frozen.
Okaros couldn't take the contract SK because he'd doom himself (frozen, couldn't use the contract copy) - no alignment means he held shapeshifter and hid his alignment.

He might have been scum, but he wasn't the SK or the game would have halted.

Leaving you, Karatallid and Pran to be the SK. You finished Anthras in a rather unbelievable "oops, look at me being harmlessly stupid" move under the guise of CI.

Hence: the likely person to be it.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:36 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm said:

1400012777[/url]' post='1124723']
@ Ryll:

Okaros couldn't drop Cryo if Korv was frozen per its text. You cannot take a contract unless you don't have one, so relinquish + claim. That was impossible for him. Ergo: Okaros couldn't take the serial killer one.

vote Ryllandaras

We still have 1 scum amongst the group 2 players, my guess is Karatallid.




So wait, you think there's two scum left to find? What makes you so certain?

Not sure about Kara but it was quite likely Korv, considering the self-vote.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:40 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

1400013336[/url]' post='1124730']
Okaros couldn't drop the contract Cryo to take the serial killer one because Okaros was frozen.
Okaros couldn't take the contract SK because he'd doom himself (frozen, couldn't use the contract copy) - no alignment means he held shapeshifter and hid his alignment.

He might have been scum, but he wasn't the SK or the game would have halted.

Leaving you, Karatallid and Pran to be the SK. You finished Anthras in a rather unbelievable "oops, look at me being harmlessly stupid" move under the guise of CI.

Hence: the likely person to be it.



As I explained. I latched on to Okaros' "Korv is definitely inno" spiel, which left me with Kara or Anthras as the scum. For other reasons, I thought Kara was less likely, so *followed* Okaros' vote. And it's not like I lynched him as soon as I saw Okaros had voted. You can follow my posts at the time and see my thining, before I came back the next morning to vote.


Quite apart from all that, you think that I, as the SK, took fucking Hormonal as one of my abilities?! Yeah, alright, whatever then.

#1310 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

1400013400[/url]' post='1124731']

Ryllandaras said:

1400013262[/url]' post='1124729']

Hentos Ilm said:

1400012777[/url]' post='1124723']
@ Ryll:

Okaros couldn't drop Cryo if Korv was frozen per its text. You cannot take a contract unless you don't have one, so relinquish + claim. That was impossible for him. Ergo: Okaros couldn't take the serial killer one.

vote Ryllandaras

We still have 1 scum amongst the group 2 players, my guess is Karatallid.




So wait, you think there's two scum left to find? What makes you so certain?

Not sure about Kara but it was quite likely Korv, considering the self-vote.




I don't really understand you here. In your previous post, you said there *is* another scum to find in your former group. But you're voting me. Which means you think there are two scum remaining. I asked why you thought that and not just one scum remaining.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:52 PM

Yeah, I'm not really clear on why you're thinking there is another Scum. I mean, we don't know for certain that Korv is scum, but it certainly seems likely. What makes you think there was another one?

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:03 PM

They've added another hour on to the delay, just for kicks.

#1313 User is offline   Hentos Ilm 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:13 PM

View PostOkaros, on 13 May 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm not really clear on why you're thinking there is another Scum. I mean, we don't know for certain that Korv is scum, but it certainly seems likely. What makes you think there was another one?

The fact the game didn't end.
I took that back. Let's assume Korv was scum. Then, the only way an SK your side of the fence could exist was by taking out Anthras. Lo and behold, look what happened.

I honestly think it was too facepalming stupid to happen: disxussion at the time if the Anthras hammer was 100% about Korv, nkt Anthras.

Also, Ryll: if you have Hormonal, you can't say so. Not sure if a rhetorical question covers it.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM

Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

1400015606[/url]' post='1124740']

Okaros said:

1400014332[/url]' post='1124738']
Yeah, I'm not really clear on why you're thinking there is another Scum. I mean, we don't know for certain that Korv is scum, but it certainly seems likely. What makes you think there was another one?

The fact the game didn't end.
I took that back. Let's assume Korv was scum. Then, the only way an SK your side of the fence could exist was by taking out Anthras. Lo and behold, look what happened.

I honestly think it was too facepalming stupid to happen: disxussion at the time if the Anthras hammer was 100% about Korv, nkt Anthras.

Also, Ryll: if you have Hormonal, you can't say so. Not sure if a rhetorical question covers it.




Are you even reading my posts, or being deliberately obtuse? I said I relinquished Hormonal, and you can see it is Open now.


I also like how yu vote before you even wait to see if anyone claims to have been hurt by RIO.

#1316 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:36 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

1400015771[/url]' post='1124741']
Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?



Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 01:27 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:



Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.


The Chicago Sun Times

Aggressive Man Arrested At Airport
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Authorities State Man Was Screaming About Serial Killers and Sabotage


This post has been edited by Pran Chole: 14 May 2014 - 01:28 AM


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 01:31 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostHentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?



Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.


Because, as the SK, you totally would not have picked up Hormonal to present this exact scenario, amirite?

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 01:58 AM

Karatallid said:

1400031096[/url]' post='1124758']

Ryllandaras said:

1400016990[/url]' post='1124748']

Hentos Ilm said:

1400015771[/url]' post='1124741']
Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?



Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.


Because, as the SK, you totally would not have picked up Hormonal to present this exact scenario, amirite?



No. I would have picked up the vig and vigged your ass for being a moron.

Seeing as defending is pointless as you all think I'm the SK because META, I've read over and I think there's a case to be made on another, so see what you think of that. But that won't happen till I'm at the hotel. Just got to Dulles now.

And then of course you can lynch me anyway and when I come out not SK, you can all shrug your shoulders and say 'oh, but it was ...., what else were we to think.' It may be the long journey making me cranky, but seriously fuck you guys.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:01 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 01:58 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 14 May 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostHentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?



Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.


Because, as the SK, you totally would not have picked up Hormonal to present this exact scenario, amirite?



No. I would have picked up the vig and vigged your ass for being a moron.

Seeing as defending is pointless as you all think I'm the SK because META, I've read over and I think there's a case to be made on another, so see what you think of that. But that won't happen till I'm at the hotel. Just got to Dulles now.

And then of course you can lynch me anyway and when I come out not SK, you can all shrug your shoulders and say 'oh, but it was ...., what else were we to think.' It may be the long journey making me cranky, but seriously fuck you guys.




Honestly, I haven't actually paid attention to which player you are, and I have no idea why you think people are using meta.

Never mind that your pissy attitude is basically the typical "oh woe is me" temper-tantrum line that people throw out for no good reason. It doesn't help. It makes people want to lynch you more. If you're Town, it's bad play because of that. If you're scum, it's bad play because the only way to benefit from it is for people to take pity on you. This is fucking mafia, there is no pity.

And I'm pretty sure only one person has voted for you. WTF.

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