[Rikkter]

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

In any case, since people are trying to be serious, I'll chime in on the Serc thing. Seems to me that there are going to be a lot of artifacts in the game design that refer back to how this game could be run as a factions game. In that set up, I could well imagine Kenshiro as some kind of lone warrior/serial killer type. But in a town vs scum game it only takes a second of thought about the game design to see that the scum team must have more than one player.

My guess is that Serc is fishing for role information by posting something obviously wrong and waiting to see who corrects him. Whether that's a townie looking for scum, a symp looking for roled innos or Kenshiro looking for symps, I don't know...

Well I hope it's not "townie looking for scum" or you just shattered his entire game strategy, you heartless bear

[Denul]

Path-Shaper, on 11 April 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Victory Conditions

Town: Eliminate Kenshiro

Scum: Achieve majority OR Kenshiro kills the 3 warlords. If a warlord is lynched, it does not count toward this VC, which becomes null.

This makes me think that there are other scum roles beyond Kenshiro.

[Galayn Lord]

Checking in, reading up.

Spoiler

[Galayn Lord]

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 April 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Victory Conditions

Town: Eliminate Kenshiro

Scum: Achieve majority OR Kenshiro kills the 3 warlords. If a warlord is lynched, it does not count toward this VC, which becomes null.

This makes me think that there are other scum roles beyond Kenshiro.

Ok skimmed through. I'm gonna agree with this.

Also that was pretty shallow thinking from Serc, Poor thing to say for Town. Maybe inexperienced player talking? Anyway read up on the Fist of the North Star. Kenshiro had several ineffectual supporters like Bat and Lin. Theres also Toki and Yuri sooo plenty of stock for scum here.

Kenshiro

[Rikkter]

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 April 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Victory Conditions

Town: Eliminate Kenshiro

Scum: Achieve majority OR Kenshiro kills the 3 warlords. If a warlord is lynched, it does not count toward this VC, which becomes null.

This makes me think that there are other scum roles beyond Kenshiro.

I agree

[Denul]

...also the second part of that scum VC definitely makes it seem like Kenshiro is the only killer - no other scum kills/vigs nor is he partnered with anyone (though he could still have a lover but not be partnered) - since it only talks about Kenshiro killing the warlords or them being lynched. I could see a town vig being present without murkying up that scum VC too much, but any other scum kills/vigs beyond Kenshiro would get into too much cross-interpretation of the OP if they killed a warlord to be included in this game.

[Ampelas]

Checking in

[Ruse]

Hey ever'body!! Checking in! Seems like there isn't much happening yet.

[Ruse]

Ack, my avatar!!

[Tiamatha]

heading to bed.

its gone quiet after the initial burst but there's definitely something going on

[Path-Shaper]

Good morning people. Parity? Majority? I always mix those two words up because to me, in mafia, they mean the same thing. Interpretation of VC for scum numbers should just be when it becomes logistically impossible for town to win, like every M&P game, ever.

[Korabas]

Checking in. I apparently missed the spam part of day 1. Not too bothered really.

There might be something to the Serc situation. After one of you picks at Serc's wording with regards to the Kenshiro's role, and possibly looking for symps, serc posts:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

Now this might be the most blatant signalling to Denul. I find it rather more likely, as one of you mentioned, that the obvious question posed by serc is probably an attempt to draw out some kind of reaction and stir the pot a bit. Serc's worth watching, but not really worth a vote at this point. Too early day 1, too thin of a case.

Also, that game was great.

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, change that crappy avatar back please.

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[Okral Lom]

Korabas, on 14 April 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Checking in. I apparently missed the spam part of day 1. Not too bothered really.

There might be something to the Serc situation. After one of you picks at Serc's wording with regards to the Kenshiro's role, and possibly looking for symps, serc posts:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

Now this might be the most blatant signalling to Denul. I find it rather more likely, as one of you mentioned, that the obvious question posed by serc is probably an attempt to draw out some kind of reaction and stir the pot a bit. Serc's worth watching, but not really worth a vote at this point. Too early day 1, too thin of a case.

Also, that game was great.

First you pick out a Serc post that expresses his appreciation for RA2, and you claim that by doing so he is signalling. OK, fair enough that does at least seem plausible.

But then, you proceed to do exactly what Serc just did (talk about how much you liked RA2), having just made the point that doing that implies signalling. It feels as though you were subtly trying to imply that you are a symp: look at me, I just did this behaviour that I claim means I'm signalling!

I think maybe you were trying to catch someone's attention. It could be anyone - possibly Denul (since he made the original RA2 reference), possibly just someone else in the crowd. Since I'm not sure who, I think I'll just get the ball rolling with a vote on you.

Vote Korabas

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on 14 April 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

Ruse, change that crappy avatar back please.

Done, thanks PS!

[Okral Lom]

Ruse, on 14 April 2014 - 09:01 PM, said:

Hey ever'body!! Checking in! Seems like there isn't much happening yet.

The question is, are you willing to change that status quo? It would be nice if there were things happening, you know .

[Bek Okhan]

I'm here! Late for the party, but at least not the latest.

[Bek Okhan]

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

Korabas, on 14 April 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Checking in. I apparently missed the spam part of day 1. Not too bothered really.

There might be something to the Serc situation. After one of you picks at Serc's wording with regards to the Kenshiro's role, and possibly looking for symps, serc posts:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

Now this might be the most blatant signalling to Denul. I find it rather more likely, as one of you mentioned, that the obvious question posed by serc is probably an attempt to draw out some kind of reaction and stir the pot a bit. Serc's worth watching, but not really worth a vote at this point. Too early day 1, too thin of a case.

Also, that game was great.

First you pick out a Serc post that expresses his appreciation for RA2, and you claim that by doing so he is signalling. OK, fair enough that does at least seem plausible.

But then, you proceed to do exactly what Serc just did (talk about how much you liked RA2), having just made the point that doing that implies signalling. It feels as though you were subtly trying to imply that you are a symp: look at me, I just did this behaviour that I claim means I'm signalling!

I think maybe you were trying to catch someone's attention. It could be anyone - possibly Denul (since he made the original RA2 reference), possibly just someone else in the crowd. Since I'm not sure who, I think I'll just get the ball rolling with a vote on you.

Vote Korabas

This post bothers me. Because Korabas clearly said he thinks it is unlikely that Serc's post is signalling, and more likely that Serc is looking for some kind of reaction. It looks like Okral has deliberately misread what Korabas has said, and then to base a vote off that looks seriously suspect.

[Path-Shaper]

21 hours and 37 minutes left in Day One.

16 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Okral Lom

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 April 2014 - 11:13 PM

[Okral Lom]

Bek Okhan, on 14 April 2014 - 11:10 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

Korabas, on 14 April 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Checking in. I apparently missed the spam part of day 1. Not too bothered really.

There might be something to the Serc situation. After one of you picks at Serc's wording with regards to the Kenshiro's role, and possibly looking for symps, serc posts:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

Now this might be the most blatant signalling to Denul. I find it rather more likely, as one of you mentioned, that the obvious question posed by serc is probably an attempt to draw out some kind of reaction and stir the pot a bit. Serc's worth watching, but not really worth a vote at this point. Too early day 1, too thin of a case.

Also, that game was great.

First you pick out a Serc post that expresses his appreciation for RA2, and you claim that by doing so he is signalling. OK, fair enough that does at least seem plausible.

But then, you proceed to do exactly what Serc just did (talk about how much you liked RA2), having just made the point that doing that implies signalling. It feels as though you were subtly trying to imply that you are a symp: look at me, I just did this behaviour that I claim means I'm signalling!

I think maybe you were trying to catch someone's attention. It could be anyone - possibly Denul (since he made the original RA2 reference), possibly just someone else in the crowd. Since I'm not sure who, I think I'll just get the ball rolling with a vote on you.

Vote Korabas

This post bothers me. Because Korabas clearly said he thinks it is unlikely that Serc's post is signalling, and more likely that Serc is looking for some kind of reaction. It looks like Okral has deliberately misread what Korabas has said, and then to base a vote off that looks seriously suspect.

The point I was trying to make (and perhaps did not articulate so well) was that Korabas points out that Serc's post could be signalling, and then does the same thing himself. I mean, there's no real reason to bring it up otherwise, is there? You underline the second sentence, but I was referring to the first.