[Alkend]

Galayn Lord, on 14 April 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 April 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Victory Conditions

Town: Eliminate Kenshiro

Scum: Achieve majority OR Kenshiro kills the 3 warlords. If a warlord is lynched, it does not count toward this VC, which becomes null.

This makes me think that there are other scum roles beyond Kenshiro.

Ok skimmed through. I'm gonna agree with this.

Also that was pretty shallow thinking from Serc, Poor thing to say for Town. Maybe inexperienced player talking? Anyway read up on the Fist of the North Star. Kenshiro had several ineffectual supporters like Bat and Lin. Theres also Toki and Yuri sooo plenty of stock for scum here.

Kenshiro

Galayn also thinks it is poor play by Serc and says that he could be an inexperienced player. There is not an inexperienced player here. I do not see why we would let bad play slip.

[Path-Shaper]

9 hours and 14 minutes left in Day One.

16 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Okral Lom
3 votes Denul: Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Tiamatha

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas,, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 April 2014 - 11:40 AM

[Alkend]

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

...also the second part of that scum VC definitely makes it seem like Kenshiro is the only killer - no other scum kills/vigs nor is he partnered with anyone (though he could still have a lover but not be partnered) - since it only talks about Kenshiro killing the warlords or them being lynched. I could see a town vig being present without murkying up that scum VC too much, but any other scum kills/vigs beyond Kenshiro would get into too much cross-interpretation of the OP if they killed a warlord to be included in this game.

Backing up Serc's post.

[Okral Lom]

Alkend, on 15 April 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

Denul's post was not funny. I was not going to post this one but when reading the one below, putting that with Serc's quote of Denul it does feel like signalling.

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I laughed hard

It was, actually. The bait and switch between the Yuri from the manga and this guy was very well done, IMO.

[Alkend]

Korabas, on 14 April 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Checking in. I apparently missed the spam part of day 1. Not too bothered really.

There might be something to the Serc situation. After one of you picks at Serc's wording with regards to the Kenshiro's role, and possibly looking for symps, serc posts:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

Now this might be the most blatant signalling to Denul. I find it rather more likely, as one of you mentioned, that the obvious question posed by serc is probably an attempt to draw out some kind of reaction and stir the pot a bit. Serc's worth watching, but not really worth a vote at this point. Too early day 1, too thin of a case.

Also, that game was great.

Regardless of "watching" Serc I think Serc is the best place for voting today because he is linked to so many people. I think he looks scummy and is acting scummy.

[Alkend]

Right now I could see Denul and Okral symps to master Serc. I would definitely like the whole thing cleared up.

Vote Serc

[Lock]

Alkend's on a crusade...Serc, Denul, Okral, airtight cases, presumably that's pretty much the whole scum team right there? Nice work, Alkend, we can all go home now.

I was actually with you right up until you made a judgement call over whether something was funny or not, and used that to substantiate your case, as if everyone's sense of humour should be the same as yours and if not, well, that's scummy. Now that is some super weak linkage.

[Path-Shaper]

9 hours and 5 minutes left in Day One.

16 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Okral Lom
3 votes Denul: Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Tiamatha
1 vote Serc: Alkend

Players not voted: Ampelas,, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow

[Lock]

I do agree, however, that Serc currently looks like the best place to vote, but that's without having to go to some pretty flimsy straw-grasping.

[Alkend]

Lock, on 15 April 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

Alkend's on a crusade...Serc, Denul, Okral, airtight cases, presumably that's pretty much the whole scum team right there? Nice work, Alkend, we can all go home now.

I was actually with you right up until you made a judgement call over whether something was funny or not, and used that to substantiate your case, as if everyone's sense of humour should be the same as yours and if not, well, that's scummy. Now that is some super weak linkage.

No it seemed forced. He has since added that he thought it was funny and to be fair, I doubt two symps would know each other. I still think they are both linked to Serc though.

[Rikkter]

The last page was a pain in my hindquarters

MO, what was the point of that foolishness? Your text might have even been amusing if it were digestible.

So there are signaling cases flying around. Let me review

[Korabas]

Morning. I've caught up.

Alkend, on 15 April 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I have coffee

Okay without bringing in the rest of the thread I want to address my biggest concern which has to be Serc.

Alkend, on 14 April 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

Eloth, on 14 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 14 April 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

checking in

I was hoping for more like a 7.2 from you...that was barely a 2.9! /terrible earthquake joke

That is a terrible earthquake joke. It's so bad that it gave me tremors.

signalling?

Are you serious right now?

Isn't this what happened last game?

I'm yet to read the wiki, but does the Kenshiro guy even have allies to signal him? he strikes me as the save the world loner type of guy

The more I read this, the more I find the sentence dodgy.

Underlined reads to me like Kenshiro asking allies to come forward.

So this is something I put forward. I found it dodgy and wanted to see what Serc would respond. You should address problems that other members have. So does he. Does he even mention it? His lack of response is what is irritating me and making me feel more likely that he is scum.

I agree with this. There hasn't been any decent response to this, when there should be. The 'inexperienced player' excuse is not even applicable as far as I can tell from the sign up. Serc needs to respond to this case in particular.

In fact, I'm still waiting on Denul's response to Monok's case.

I'm going to


Vote Serc


I'll be around in a couple hours to move my vote if necessary. Hopefully by then we get some response from either player.

[Serc]

Alkend, on 15 April 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I have coffee

Okay without bringing in the rest of the thread I want to address my biggest concern which has to be Serc.

Alkend, on 14 April 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

Eloth, on 14 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 14 April 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

checking in

I was hoping for more like a 7.2 from you...that was barely a 2.9! /terrible earthquake joke

That is a terrible earthquake joke. It's so bad that it gave me tremors.

signalling?

Are you serious right now?

Isn't this what happened last game?

I'm yet to read the wiki, but does the Kenshiro guy even have allies to signal him? he strikes me as the save the world loner type of guy

The more I read this, the more I find the sentence dodgy.

Underlined reads to me like Kenshiro asking allies to come forward.

So this is something I put forward. I found it dodgy and wanted to see what Serc would respond. You should address problems that other members have. So does he. Does he even mention it? His lack of response is what is irritating me and making me feel more likely that he is scum.

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 14 April 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

so we're to assume its one guy against 15??

I think that's a bit of a stretch serc, watching you.

meh, last game I played was like that, and D'rek took it down to last day. nothing impossible, if there's no finders.

He is asking us to speculate on town roles. Major scum thing to do. I am glad no one took him up on this conversation.

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

This is his last post. He directly quotes Denul.

So he responded to two people and ignored me.

So from my point of view Serc is scummy. Things are adding up anyway.


What I also found interesting are the comments about Serc...

Morning. Catching up on my phone, commuting.
You accuse me of not responding to you. All right, here's an anti-reveal: I am not Kenshiro.
Satisfied?
No?
Well what the hell else am I supposed to say to that?
Yes, I was being lazy, especially asking someone else to mention if there's anyone else important in the FotNS aside from Kenshiro and the 3 named warlords that we need to watch out for. If you feel that warrants a vote b/c it makes me Kenshiro, "I weep a river of tears for your plight © "
As for engaging in role spec... I did not invite a discussion of whether there are finders in this game. I was challenged on the viability of a 1 killer setup, I've responded with citing a game that happened.

[Path-Shaper]

7 hours and 50 minutes left in Day One.

16 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Okral Lom
3 votes Denul: Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Tiamatha
2 votes Serc: Alkend, Korabas

Players not voted: Ampelas,, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Lock, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow

[Tiamatha]

hmmm, I took the Denul serc thing in reverse to alk and Korabas. Need to go back and read that page again

[Alkend]

Serc, on 15 April 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:

Alkend, on 15 April 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I have coffee

Okay without bringing in the rest of the thread I want to address my biggest concern which has to be Serc.

Alkend, on 14 April 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

Eloth, on 14 April 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 14 April 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 14 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 14 April 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

checking in

I was hoping for more like a 7.2 from you...that was barely a 2.9! /terrible earthquake joke

That is a terrible earthquake joke. It's so bad that it gave me tremors.

signalling?

Are you serious right now?

Isn't this what happened last game?

I'm yet to read the wiki, but does the Kenshiro guy even have allies to signal him? he strikes me as the save the world loner type of guy

The more I read this, the more I find the sentence dodgy.

Underlined reads to me like Kenshiro asking allies to come forward.

So this is something I put forward. I found it dodgy and wanted to see what Serc would respond. You should address problems that other members have. So does he. Does he even mention it? His lack of response is what is irritating me and making me feel more likely that he is scum.

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 14 April 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

so we're to assume its one guy against 15??

I think that's a bit of a stretch serc, watching you.

meh, last game I played was like that, and D'rek took it down to last day. nothing impossible, if there's no finders.

He is asking us to speculate on town roles. Major scum thing to do. I am glad no one took him up on this conversation.

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

This is his last post. He directly quotes Denul.

So he responded to two people and ignored me.

So from my point of view Serc is scummy. Things are adding up anyway.


What I also found interesting are the comments about Serc...

Morning. Catching up on my phone, commuting.
You accuse me of not responding to you. All right, here's an anti-reveal: I am not Kenshiro.
Satisfied?
No?
Well what the hell else am I supposed to say to that?
Yes, I was being lazy, especially asking someone else to mention if there's anyone else important in the FotNS aside from Kenshiro and the 3 named warlords that we need to watch out for. If you feel that warrants a vote b/c it makes me Kenshiro, "I weep a river of tears for your plight © "
As for engaging in role spec... I did not invite a discussion of whether there are finders in this game. I was challenged on the viability of a 1 killer setup, I've responded with citing a game that happened.

So we can eliminate good town play by way of laying a trap? That is what people have said about your post, that maybe you were fishing to try catch scum. You have just made my case stronger. The people that defended you cannot use that excuse anymore.

[Denul]

Ah yes, of course, it seems that I am most certainly the killer. That I told the town I had allies when they were suggesting I had none. That I highlighted for the town my victory conditions and the implications of them in the game, when the town had already breezed past them. That I made a big obvious call for my symps to reveal themselves to me, that they did in the most blatantly obvious fashion, and that I then somehow still did not realize that is what they were doing.

...

...

Or maybe I was just making a fucking day 1 joke about the theme of the game and you can all go eat a huge fucking bag of dicks.

[Tiamatha]

Serc, on 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Denul, on 14 April 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

Her name is Yuri and she looks like this:

Spoiler

I love RA2 so much. the Soviet briefing chick was hawt.

this was the post that made me think it was more serc symping Denul.



with
the initial role questioning by serc being interpreted (by me) as a hand wave as if to say 'he kenshiro, you ain't all alone in case you think you are'

then the above making denul take notice of them specifically, saying, I like what you like, get it? Don't kill me cause I can helporz

[Alkend]

Denul, on 15 April 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Ah yes, of course, it seems that I am most certainly the killer. That I told the town I had allies when they were suggesting I had none. That I highlighted for the town my victory conditions and the implications of them in the game, when the town had already breezed past them. That I made a big obvious call for my symps to reveal themselves to me, that they did in the most blatantly obvious fashion, and that I then somehow still did not realize that is what they were doing.

...

...

Or maybe I was just making a fucking day 1 joke about the theme of the game and you can all go eat a huge fucking bag of dicks.

and we caught you on that joke and if we lynch you and you are scum then we were lucky because it wasn't good town play? Cry me a river.

Do you own a bag of dicks? Figures.

[Alkend]

Instead of whinging about it Denul, what are your thoughts on Serc?