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Mafia 110: I spy, with my little eye.... back to where I started

#61 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 31 March 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

I suppose you could be right. It seems ominous to me in a way, like maybe scum will get powers faster than town, based on levels, so if we blab a lot it puts us at a disadvantage.



As its Spycraft there will be some good roles either side of the fence I reckon. Do we know what TDMi the game is?

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This game is relatively low in abilities, I'd label it at TMDI 2 for the first levels of the game. This rises to TMDI 7.


It is this I was thinking about...

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Town roles have no abilities at level 0-4, and get a (one-time) ability at level 5.


Nothing is mentioned for level 6 and 7. So maybe town DO need to speak a lot more, as the above suggests scum already have abilities whereas town do not.



actually, if i had to guess, best bet is that we all start pretty even (hence the low TMDI) and scum simply gain powers at lower levels than town do. so when a bunch of people hit level 3 or something, scum get powers but town don't. hence the negative consequences of spamming. at least, that's how i figure. i don't imagine scum started with heavy powers already because it would OP and there would be zero reason NOT to spam.

i realize i kinda dug myself a hole here by spamming a bit before saying this but hey, i speak as it comes to me.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

also, gl, why do you assume scum already have abilities.... ?

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:16 PM

Aah I read the TDMi increasing from 2 to 7 and mixed them up with the levels.

If all town get their one time ability though then that can only benefit us though. It may be hard to reach 600 posts though to reach that level I suppose.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

 Ampelas, on 31 March 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

also, gl, why do you assume scum already have abilities.... ?


WCS dictates they do. It's only logical.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

Aah I read the TDMi increasing from 2 to 7 and mixed them up with the levels.

If all town get their one time ability though then that can only benefit us though. It may be hard to reach 600 posts though to reach that level I suppose.


you still need to reread the OP. :p everyone increases a level after 4 deaths as well, meaning the post requirement to hit lvl 5 is lower than 600 posts.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:18 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 31 March 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

also, gl, why do you assume scum already have abilities.... ?


WCS dictates they do. It's only logical.


good answer.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:21 PM

 Ampelas, on 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

Aah I read the TDMi increasing from 2 to 7 and mixed them up with the levels.

If all town get their one time ability though then that can only benefit us though. It may be hard to reach 600 posts though to reach that level I suppose.


you still need to reread the OP. :p everyone increases a level after 4 deaths as well, meaning the post requirement to hit lvl 5 is lower than 600 posts.


That would mean 4 people will never reach their level 5. It depends on how valuable you see 4 town having a one off level 5 ability as opposed to 1 town getting theirs. If we all post frequently and discuss these type of things we will not only grow closer to our goal but there may also be slips along the way.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:25 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

Aah I read the TDMi increasing from 2 to 7 and mixed them up with the levels.

If all town get their one time ability though then that can only benefit us though. It may be hard to reach 600 posts though to reach that level I suppose.


you still need to reread the OP. :p everyone increases a level after 4 deaths as well, meaning the post requirement to hit lvl 5 is lower than 600 posts.


That would mean 4 people will never reach their level 5. It depends on how valuable you see 4 town having a one off level 5 ability as opposed to 1 town getting theirs. If we all post frequently and discuss these type of things we will not only grow closer to our goal but there may also be slips along the way.


well...yeah. i don't disagree, but just think in terms of mafia right now - lets say the WCS scenario happens on day 1 like it usually does - we lynch town, scum kills town. down 2 players who were never going to see level 5. day 2, repeat. now already we have 4 dead and everyone goes up a level. how much this matters will be determined by the number of posts, but it eliminates the max of 600 almost for sure, unless 600 posts were made before night 2 (which seems highly unlikely)

edit - just another thought, OP says deaths, so even if we lynch scum, this still applies

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 31 March 2014 - 04:26 PM


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:32 PM

Yes, 4 deaths would level us once. then another 4. that's a lot of deaths before we get there. better to try and get there sooner than day 6 because by then we'll be at d day more or less. In a normal game, the most posts by an alt reach 140 max

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:


Nothing is mentioned for level 6 and 7. So maybe town DO need to speak a lot more, as the above suggests scum already have abilities whereas town do not.



Well presumably they already have this new-fangled 'kill' ability :p

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

excuse grammar and stuff, I'm posting from my phone

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

I think the faster town reaches level 5 the better. Might be tough in the medium-term if scum do indeed receive other abilities before town, but there's not much to be done about that.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

Maybe that mean that PS anticipated this and doesn't want to see "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" to raise the post count, as exciting as that may be

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:41 PM

yes as long as our posts are game related it shouldn't be a problem, there should be room for some sexting as well.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:43 PM

 Kessobahn, on 31 March 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Maybe that mean that PS anticipated this and doesn't want to see "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" to raise the post count, as exciting as that may be



Neither do I want to see it. I'm not saying let's be spam monkeys (ok, maybe I'm saying that a little), but we can post lots without it descending to those levels. We're already over halfway to level 2 and half the players haven't even checked in yet, and I don't think what's been posted so far is all pointless spam. There hasn't even been any dragonsecks talk.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:56 PM

I'm massively suspicious of GLs push for the posts here, we don't get anything till level 5, yet we've been told the the scum get extra abilities earlier than that so unless we hit 600 posts today, we're screwing the pooch for ourselves night one.

I'm really attracted to the idea of voting GlL right now, but I have bitched about people symp hunting before, becuase we have no way of knowing if its a sucess until spoiler heaven.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:57 PM

 Galayn Lord, on 31 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 31 March 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

also, gl, why do you assume scum already have abilities.... ?


WCS dictates they do. It's only logical.


WCS also says that scum gain abilities at levels 1, 2, 3 and 4 because otherwise why not have just level 0 (scum abilities only) and 1 (town get one-shot abilities.)

I'd rather a quiet Day 1 and we see what scum start with at level 0 and then spam discuss the hell out of Day 2 to get to level 5.

On the basis that scum probably want to level up that bit more on Day 1 than town do,

Vote Galayn Lord

who is almost (27/120) a quarter of the way to levelling everyone up to level 1 by themself.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:58 PM

I stand corrected, the OP doesn't explicitly state they get stuff at earlier levels, it was some of the players have speculated ul thread, gong back up to see who

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 05:00 PM

I'm going to go ahead and vote him when everyones checked in,an aside, what does wcs stand for?

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 05:04 PM

 Monok Ochem, on 31 March 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'm going to go ahead and vote him when everyones checked in,an aside, what does wcs stand for?


Worst Case Scenario - pretty self explanatory but if something bad can happen assume it will.

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