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Posted 31 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

Any of you keeping and eye on The Division? From what I've heard it sounds like this game might try to steal Destiny's lunch.
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Posted 31 January 2016 - 05:13 PM

 Apt, on 31 January 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

Any of you keeping and eye on The Division? From what I've heard it sounds like this game might try to steal Destiny's lunch.


I got a buddy playing the Beta...will find out what he thinks tomorrow
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Posted 31 January 2016 - 10:40 PM

 Apt, on 31 January 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

Any of you keeping and eye on The Division? From what I've heard it sounds like this game might try to steal Destiny's lunch.


Played the beta this weekend. More of a demo than a beta. Tons of fun.

I still have seen nothing about endgame, and the darkzone, as fun as it was, will not hold my attention.
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Posted 01 February 2016 - 03:44 AM

I haven't tried the beta myself (games take too long to download here for that to be viable often... Until I get my fibre connection up and running...mwahahahaha) but from this review http://www.forbes.co...a/#7fe1a81143da (and what I've seen of the game): it looks like it's going to fall into a lot of the same traps as Destiny, but will also be limited by its modern setting and third person perspective with average shooting mechanics. ;)
(I do wonder about the author's complaint that there won't be any unique 'must-have' endgame gear because of the real world setting. First of all, it's pretty easy to make awesome looking, powerful, real-world guns l/armor and near-future versions thereof. Secondly, I'd much rather have no 'must-have endgame loot' than do it the way Destiny does. XD
And while it does sound like the game world might be a bit sparse, one of my biggest issues with Destiny is that you farm so much and in the same places - I'd have preferred larger, less populated maps with the occasional 'five enemies and a mini-boss' being the only thing you find after ten minutes. That is a much more engaging scenario than endlessly spawning trash mobs, imo. Though it sounds like they may not have got the formula quite right in this game...)

Kind of makes me wonder if Destiny 2 will actually bother to fix any of its problems. No competition = no need to innovate or improve, after all.
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Posted 01 February 2016 - 01:31 PM

The dude who did the forbes article is quite a whiney little shit.

The shooting mechanics feel very good. Not as obscenely over the top as Gears, but a slower version of gears. He at least admitted he wasn't a big fan of third person cover shooters, which is what this game is.

He also ignores the fact that Ubisoft said they removed around 60% of the PvE packs that roam in the dark zone, because they wanted to see what the player interaction is like.

The only thing I agree with chuckles on is what the endgame is going to be, and we've seen nothing about it, which means it is either hugely ambitious and Ubisoft is expecting it to carry people, or it's super shitty and Ubisoft is hoping to sell a bunch of preorders before it comes out.

He also whined that guns in the same class don't feel any different, then complained that when he bought his orange assault rifle, it felt really bad and he didn't like it. So... which is it? Guns don't feel different or they do?

Also, you are reading video game reviews on forbes? That's... odd.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 06:13 PM

No, that just happened to be one that summarised what I'd heard around the Web in general. XD (I barely knew they did game stuff, but it didn't surprise me, lol).

He could be wrong. But if the mechanics are a slower version of Gears, then I'd have to agree with him that they're shit. Gears want exactly renowned for its smooth and engaging gunplay... It was slow and visceral, yes, but not 'good', like Destiny. Then again, that's apples and oranges, but still.
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Posted 02 February 2016 - 11:58 AM

 Raging Cajun Gator King, on 02 February 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

QT you'd be proud of me. I'm wreaking shop dunking these things now. I just hooked my mic up to scream at my teammates on Pantheon. All 5 stayed in the hallway sniping at other team while I carried the team. I was so pissed. They wouldn't run with me but stayed in the damn hall so I kept dying. 9 carries with 3 Rifts 10.5K pts. I was so mad.


That's awesome! Yah, being the runner lets you feel pretty badass.
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Posted 09 February 2016 - 05:08 PM

I've had to give it a rest as I was starting to let it get to me when I saw Laggers, or Shotgunners, ect...my wife was saying I let it enrage me too much and she could hear me curse from the other room.

LOL

I'll log in tonight to see what the update gives us.
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Posted 09 February 2016 - 05:16 PM

Oh snap! Looks like changes I like! New Matchmaking that disallows fireteams! Finally the solo gamer can have an even playing field. Woot!

No Special Ammo available up front! You hear that Shotgun sliders?! YES!!!!!!

Interested to see the new questline. 320 Ghosts as well.

Oh and PLEASE let the Yesternight Shader FINALLY drop with the Shaxx bounty updates! I need that outfit for my Warlock.

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 06:09 PM

Because QT has standards, and half the sliders are also manipulating their connection? ^_^
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Posted 09 February 2016 - 07:41 PM

Sliders get me because they don't (or rarely) use their primary...which means they are eating up their teams Special Ammo drops in any given match (and sometimes my teams too if they happen to be over there) to use their special weapon AS their primary, and it basically removes the "special" from the name. That's just for starters. Then there is the slide. It's basically an out. They KNOW that whomever is shooting at them is aiming at their head, so they go into a slide to avoid those bullets...and then taking their shot at the opponent, right? This is not the bad part at all (it's just as much of an escape as jumping away, or rolling ect.). The problem is the impact and range on MOST of the shotguns I see is extended to a level that is pretty ridiculous. Unless you are underneath me and within 5 game feet...a shotgun should NOT be a one-shot kill. So these guys are taking advantage of that fact and coupling it with the slide to avoid your bullets, while taking you out in one go from 15 feet away...which is stupid. That' the bit that gets me. If you shotgun slide and you're close up to me...I'll take that death without complaint. It's when they do it as a reflex, panic switch from 15 feet and take me out from full health...that gets me.

@Silencer: Actually, I've learned that most of the people who SEEM like they are lagging are just on shitty, intermittent connections. I know this now because I've been accused of it many times when angry players call me lagger, or send a PS message "enjoy your ban asshole"...or the like (this was before I had my PS4 on a wired connection). But actual Laggers are even more easy to spot now, since their shtick doesn't occur until they are losing. I've seen green bars for 3/4 of a match that we are winning by a decent margin, start to flicker red and back...and the tide shifts and they will either win, or get DAMN close to winning as a result. Those are the ones I report. But I will say I've never sent an actual message to people I think might be cheating...that seems over the top considering you never have to see or play against them again if you go to orbit and back.

But yeah, Shotgun sliders are my goddamned bane. Which is less a complaint about them (they are exploiting the game architecture to their advantage) I suppose, than Bungie for allowing the impact and range to be what they are on those weapons.
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Posted 13 February 2016 - 02:02 PM

Haven't done Crimson doubles yet.

But heads up, you don't have to compete. Just spawn and both of you kill yourselves....the rewards come to all, not for kills...just for playing....and this includes that 320 ghost shell
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Posted 15 February 2016 - 01:12 PM

Yeah, Im not fussed to do CD since it's really only that chocolate shell that's worth the time.

And yeah, I think we are due for Cabal-focused DLC next. Hope so!
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:11 PM

Yeah, I think the ONLY thing that worth my time in the IB rewards so far is that Covalent's Duty gun...it's alright. I mean it's not amazing or anything...my The Vanity with firefly perk is FAR better. But yeah IB needs to be worth it for all the grinding.

I've been annoyed with PvP recently, so I decided to do a bunch of stuff I'd not finished. Turns out I never finished the Dark Below quests for Variks (did that now), which triggers Petra's Queen's Wrath final stuff and her bounties (at the end of which I get that Boolean gun), and I'm also trying to get all the Calcified fragments so I can get Touch of Malice. I've got 34 fragments so far. I'll need to take a fireteam into the Kings Fall Raid to get a chunk of them (which kinda sucks, I hate being FORCED into teams). But it's been fun doing these quests and bounties, and upping my rep with Variks, Eris, and Petra. Once I've done all I can with those quests, I'll see where my light is at and see if I can do the Kings Fall with some folk.

Oh, and I STILL need to finish the Sunless Cell raid in the specific order to get my Exotic Sealed sword...which I tried to do a few times, but asshole guys just sit there and vet you and unless you meet their requirements you have no chance. Will probably need a small fireteam fro that as well.
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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:49 AM

 Briar King, on 17 February 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

So when you get an exotic sword does it turn your sword into it or give you a new one? I really don't want mine to turn cause then I ll never use it with my exotic guns equipped


Turns your Legendaery into an Exotic. Yeah, I've been thinking that too, as MOST of my primaries are exotics now. Maybe not worth it.
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Posted 23 February 2016 - 04:27 AM

 Briar King, on 17 February 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

So when you get an exotic sword does it turn your sword into it or give you a new one? I really don't want mine to turn cause then I ll never use it with my exotic guns equipped


Unless they changed it from way back when I played, you had both at the end of the quest. You have to collect a ton of mats and then Shaxx makes you wait until... Tuesday? Wednesday? to give you the upgraded sword. Maybe there was a strike you had to do at the end? Hmmm... was the 290 sunless cell strike before or after mat collection? I don't recall.

But seriously, you have both the legendary and the exotic at the end of the quest.
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Posted 23 February 2016 - 12:04 PM

 Obdigore, on 23 February 2016 - 04:27 AM, said:

 Briar King, on 17 February 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

So when you get an exotic sword does it turn your sword into it or give you a new one? I really don't want mine to turn cause then I ll never use it with my exotic guns equipped


Unless they changed it from way back when I played, you had both at the end of the quest. You have to collect a ton of mats and then Shaxx makes you wait until... Tuesday? Wednesday? to give you the upgraded sword. Maybe there was a strike you had to do at the end? Hmmm... was the 290 sunless cell strike before or after mat collection? I don't recall.

But seriously, you have both the legendary and the exotic at the end of the quest.


I'll take your word for it, it just seems to be part of the long ass sword quest, so I'd always assumed it was an upgrade. And Sunless Cell is after mat collection. It's all I have left in the questline.

Either way, an exotic sword pretty mmuch screws my primary up, so I doubt I'll finish it up.
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Posted 23 February 2016 - 08:29 PM

 Briar King, on 23 February 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:

Ugh another renamed IB weapon...sniper rifle is Effierdits Spear with a new name.

So lazy and cheap of them to do this


And grinding another five levels to get it. SIGH.


I like my maxed out 1000-Yard Stare to be honest, not sure if anything could trump it.
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Posted 27 February 2016 - 04:42 AM

Fuck, I'm with you man...the cheaters come out to play during IB. It's almost enough to make me not want to participate.
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Posted 27 February 2016 - 05:48 AM

 Briar King, on 27 February 2016 - 05:28 AM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 27 February 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

Fuck, I'm with you man...the cheaters come out to play during IB. It's almost enough to make me not want to participate.


Reporting doesn't do to much I guess. I just went up against Waynelord something...3 matches all red reported 3 times


Yeah, there's no way one person reporting someone three times in a row even *should* do anything, lol. Can you imagine how abused that system would be if one person's report instantly got someone suspended/kicked/banned? D: It should flag his account as reported, nothing more. If other people report him then different story, but aside from maybe triggering Bungie's automated systems to take a closer look, it shouldn't do anything by itself...
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