[Eloth]

Hmm, and Denul. Always miss that one.

[Eloth]

Actually, looking through the post numbers list, Kesso is really the only one still in the Monok mould.

But then there's also the posters with little to say thus far, where Korabas slots in nicely. Okral has been largely AWOL in the latter half of this game.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day five: 17 hours 8 minutes remaining

9 players still alive; Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to night

1 Vote for Okral Lom; (Alkend)




Players not voted; Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

Weekend Freeze will begin at 12:00am GMT. Leaving 8 hours 30 minutes left on the clock. Clock will reopen Monday 9:00am GMT. Timeout will be 17:30pm GMT.

[Tiamatha]

Eloth, on 21 March 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

PS, the current vote is on Okral Lom, not Bek Okhan.

The reason I asked my question above is because it might influence how killers play the game. If Shadowthrone and Cotillion are around from the start, then they might want to hide super low until such time as they gained the kill. No one wants to be kynched as a non-killing killer. But, at the same time, the presumption would be that they knew who Monok was, in which case we'd also look at those against a Monok lynch. Which, yes I'm aware, puts me in there, as i was always against a Monok lynch. But I simply saw better targets elsewhere.

If, on the other hand, Monok chose his successor and that person effectively became a new killer, then all the above isn't even worth considering. However, I think it is some form of the above, for the reason that we have already seen two people who knew each other. That could be abused too easily, if, say, in this scenario Galayn had become the new killer and imediately knew to take out Kilava as Fiddler and presumably a roled town.

So, my helief is that Monok's successor is one of his low poster buddies. Kesso, Okral, Korabas, maybe Tiam, would be my first ports of call.

We have seen both ways before. I think that you are probably right that ShadowThrone and Cotillion have been around from the start. That would work with the amount of players and is WCS.

[Okaros]

Just checking in briefly. I was at a bachelor party and got way too drunk (more gory details later), spent the day in pain, went to the rehearsal, now I'm going to see my med friends graduate and tonight is the wedding. So yeah. If the freeze is happening when I think it is I should be able to read up in a few hours and be back before timeout. Anyway sorry for the absence I truly must go. Glad to see we got scum (my drunken state proves itself again!).

[Bek Okhan]

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Basically, the amount of comments that are from you and don't relate to yourself (or general warnings like "don't be surprised if there's scum on the train already") over the last couple of days can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and that's one way to remain squeakily clean.

Don't use "" trying to frame some of your bullshit on me. Use the fucking quotes were I say what you think I say. All your attempts to put words in my mouth do is make you look scummier.

Brave words.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Basically, the amount of comments that are from you and don't relate to yourself (or general warnings like "don't be surprised if there's scum on the train already") over the last couple of days can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and that's one way to remain squeakily clean.

Don't use "" trying to frame some of your bullshit on me. Use the fucking quotes were I say what you think I say. All your attempts to put words in my mouth do is make you look scummier.

Brave words.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

See you can actually quote my words and not do your paraphrasing "" bullshit. Remember to do that next time.

[Okaros]

Ok, I thankfully misread and the freeze looks like it happens before timeout. I should have time over the weekend, I'm gonna be gone for the next 24 hours or so with all this wedding shit.

[Bek Okhan]

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Basically, the amount of comments that are from you and don't relate to yourself (or general warnings like "don't be surprised if there's scum on the train already") over the last couple of days can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and that's one way to remain squeakily clean.

Don't use "" trying to frame some of your bullshit on me. Use the fucking quotes were I say what you think I say. All your attempts to put words in my mouth do is make you look scummier.

Brave words.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

See you can actually quote my words and not do your paraphrasing "" bullshit. Remember to do that next time.

So nice of you to react to the content instead of the form of the message.

vote Tiamatha

For trying to derail every single discussion of himself or scum in general into a shouting match that people will ignore.
If you were town, you'd offer defense on content.

[Eloth]

Hey guys, in all likelihood this is going to be my only post of the day as I won't have access to internet again until well after timeout. I'm going to go ahead and vote with Bek on this one.

Vote Tiamatha

Mostly because I agree with Bek's assessment of Tiam's recent play. Having said that, after reading over the thread at the weekend, I have found something on another player. I'm not sure whether to reveal it, because it either points to scum or to roled town, and I don't know which. I'll be around for maybe 40 minutes if someone wants to give me inout on whether to say anything or not.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day five: 7 hours 54 minutes remaining

9 players still alive; Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to night

1 Vote for Okral Lom; (Alkend)
2 votes for Tiamatha; (Bek Okhan, Eloth)




Players not voted; Denul, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

So nice of you to react to the content instead of the form of the message.

vote Tiamatha

For trying to derail every single discussion of himself or scum in general into a shouting match that people will ignore.
If you were town, you'd offer defense on content.

I have offered defense on content you just are choosing to ignore it. Which is funny since you responded to the post where I defended myself. Which I shall now respost.

Vote Bek

[Tiamatha]

A repost because Bek is to fucking lazy to look at the top of the fucking page.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

Since I had some time I decided to address the connection you think that I have. See the below below. If you can be bothered to look at the quotes below that you can see that I brought up Lock as suspicious before Eloth mentioned him. Then several people voted for him and then 2 hours after I had mentioned my suspicion I came back on and voted for him. At that time there was next to no talk about Monok. That line died out due to the Silchas modkill. So you can take that connection and shove it. Trying to fucking frame me motherfucker.

Bek Okhan, on 20 March 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

and how am I connected to him?

If you would rather be a fucktard I can go away until I come back on line tomorrow morning. I think that it is obvious that I don't give a shit. So how do YOU want to play it. If you want my vote then answer the fucking questions. If not I don't give a rats ass. I don't have enough time this morning to go through the game thread. If you feel that Monok is the best bet for a scum lynch then say why. If it makes sense then I will vote for him with you. If not then I will vote for the next best suspect. Yesterday I told you that I wasn't going to be back on. I have a shit ton of stuff to do again today. Once I leave work I don't look at the thread and since I am busy at work it is really easier if I don't have to look at the thread. Now are you going to make this easy or do you think that based on two days of no lynches you don't need my vote to lynch today.

1. His behaviour of coming on, saying he'll read, then leave. next day, rinse repeat without a recap of his opinions. So, why does he stick around? It also seems clear that as a 100% blank slate, scum won't off him.

2. There's the day 1, where Eloth named 3 suspects that were equal to him (Lock, Rikkter, MO). You immediately voted Lock. Rikkter died in a NK. That's a tie to you and to Eloth: him for bringing it up, you for voting one.

3. GL had the hots for him, and GL was a certified townie with time on his hands and a decent grasp of the game.

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Kilava, on 13 March 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Sorry garrotted a Claw - the officer who read the note to the surviving Bridgeburners was I seem to recall the last one bar Toc.

Vote Lock

Kessobahn, on 13 March 2014 - 07:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 March 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

Whiskeyjack shook his head. The only force intact was the Moranth, they seemed determined to field only the Black regiments, using the Gr for lifts and drops—and where the hell was the Gold he'd been hearing much about? Damn those unhuman bastards anyway. Pale's gutters ran red from their hour of retribution. Once the burial shifts were through there'd be a few more hills outside the city's walls. Big ones.

There would be nothing to mark thirteen hundred dead Bridgeburners though. The worms didn't need to travel far to feast on those bodies. What chilled the sergeant to his bones was the fact that, apart from a few survivors, nobody had made a serious effort to save them. Some high ranking officer had delivered Tayschrenn's commiserations on those lost in the line of duty, then had unloaded a wagonload of tripe about heroism and sacrifice. His audience of thirty-nine stone-faced soldiers looked on without a word. The officer was found dead in his room hours later, expertly garotted. The mood was bad—nobody in regiment would have even thought of something so ugly five years ago. But now they didn't blink at the news.

Garotte—sounds like Claw work. Kalam had suggested it was a setup, an elaborate frame to discredit what was left of the Bridgeburners. Whiskeyjack was sceptical.

He tried to clear his thoughts. If there was a pattern it would be a simple one, simple enough to pass by unnoticed. But exhaustion see in like a thick haze behind his eyes. He took a deep lungful of the morning air. 'The new recruit?' he asked.

Kalam rose from his haunches with a grunt. A faraway and longlook entered his eyes. 'Maybe,'

he said finally. 'Pretty young for a Claw though.'

'I never believed in pure evil before Sorry showed up,' Quick Ben said. 'But you're right, she's awfully young. How long are they trained before they're sent out?'

So this is where a claw is mentioned, but I remember this as actually being a part of the book, so it's possible this is just flavor, and/or Lock knows something we don't. It's only put up as a possibly, and WJ is skeptical, and also

Spoiler

Sorry isn't a claw, she's possessed,

so no claw there. I'm leaning towards Lock knowing something we don't. And for a day one case, this is better than nothing.

Vote Lock

Rikkter, on 13 March 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:

I'm going tk bed soon, I'm more inclinced to jump on the lock train as his initial take on the flavour stood out and his meandering into book conversation reeks of distraction.

heading to bed soon and we're down to 3 hours.
vote Lock

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Nice middle of the road post.

I do agree that there isn't really any distinction between the three. However I feel that Lock's posts after his claw post smacks of desperation.

Vote Lock

[Tiamatha]

Eloth, on 24 March 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Hey guys, in all likelihood this is going to be my only post of the day as I won't have access to internet again until well after timeout. I'm going to go ahead and vote with Bek on this one.

Vote Tiamatha

Mostly because I agree with Bek's assessment of Tiam's recent play. Having said that, after reading over the thread at the weekend, I have found something on another player. I'm not sure whether to reveal it, because it either points to scum or to roled town, and I don't know which. I'll be around for maybe 40 minutes if someone wants to give me inout on whether to say anything or not.

Recent play??? Making it sound as if my play has suddenly changed over the last week. I post when I can and am a generally hostile asshole. My play has never fucking changed.

[Bek Okhan]

Tiamatha, on 24 March 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

A repost because Bek is to fucking lazy to look at the top of the fucking page.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

Since I had some time I decided to address the connection you think that I have. See the below below. If you can be bothered to look at the quotes below that you can see that I brought up Lock as suspicious before Eloth mentioned him. Then several people voted for him and then 2 hours after I had mentioned my suspicion I came back on and voted for him. At that time there was next to no talk about Monok. That line died out due to the Silchas modkill. So you can take that connection and shove it. Trying to fucking frame me motherfucker.

Bek Okhan, on 20 March 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

and how am I connected to him?

If you would rather be a fucktard I can go away until I come back on line tomorrow morning. I think that it is obvious that I don't give a shit. So how do YOU want to play it. If you want my vote then answer the fucking questions. If not I don't give a rats ass. I don't have enough time this morning to go through the game thread. If you feel that Monok is the best bet for a scum lynch then say why. If it makes sense then I will vote for him with you. If not then I will vote for the next best suspect. Yesterday I told you that I wasn't going to be back on. I have a shit ton of stuff to do again today. Once I leave work I don't look at the thread and since I am busy at work it is really easier if I don't have to look at the thread. Now are you going to make this easy or do you think that based on two days of no lynches you don't need my vote to lynch today.

Quick response here.

In fact, I did adress it. I mentioned 'framing you' is an interesting choice of words, as it means you believe I am setting you up. Which is what only scum does.
So, was your vote OMGUS (extremely unproductive at this stage of the game, I might add), or do you really believe I am scum?

If you believe I am scum, what is that based on?

And if you believe I am scum, we get to a very interesting situation. I recently dropped a hint as to my role name (narrowing it down to 3 likely ones). Relevant if there's a set scum team, irrelevant if there isn't.

Also, I didn't see you come back and mention which of the votes already on HiddenOne were the ones you suspected of being "symps".

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

It was at that point myself, Korabas and Alkend.

Path-Shaper, on 20 March 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

It is day four: 30hours 53 minutes remaining

11 players still alive; Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to night

5 Votes for Monok Ochem; (Bek Okhan, Korabas, Alkend, Tiamatha, Eloth)


Players not voted; Ampelas, Denul, Kessobahn, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom,

The hammer was Denul.

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 24 March 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 24 March 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

A repost because Bek is to fucking lazy to look at the top of the fucking page.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

Since I had some time I decided to address the connection you think that I have. See the below below. If you can be bothered to look at the quotes below that you can see that I brought up Lock as suspicious before Eloth mentioned him. Then several people voted for him and then 2 hours after I had mentioned my suspicion I came back on and voted for him. At that time there was next to no talk about Monok. That line died out due to the Silchas modkill. So you can take that connection and shove it. Trying to fucking frame me motherfucker.

Bek Okhan, on 20 March 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

and how am I connected to him?

If you would rather be a fucktard I can go away until I come back on line tomorrow morning. I think that it is obvious that I don't give a shit. So how do YOU want to play it. If you want my vote then answer the fucking questions. If not I don't give a rats ass. I don't have enough time this morning to go through the game thread. If you feel that Monok is the best bet for a scum lynch then say why. If it makes sense then I will vote for him with you. If not then I will vote for the next best suspect. Yesterday I told you that I wasn't going to be back on. I have a shit ton of stuff to do again today. Once I leave work I don't look at the thread and since I am busy at work it is really easier if I don't have to look at the thread. Now are you going to make this easy or do you think that based on two days of no lynches you don't need my vote to lynch today.

Quick response here.

In fact, I did adress it. I mentioned 'framing you' is an interesting choice of words, as it means you believe I am setting you up. Which is what only scum does.
So, was your vote OMGUS (extremely unproductive at this stage of the game, I might add), or do you really believe I am scum?

If you believe I am scum, what is that based on?

And if you believe I am scum, we get to a very interesting situation. I recently dropped a hint as to my role name (narrowing it down to 3 likely ones). Relevant if there's a set scum team, irrelevant if there isn't.

Also, I didn't see you come back and mention which of the votes already on HiddenOne were the ones you suspected of being "symps".

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

It was at that point myself, Korabas and Alkend.

Path-Shaper, on 20 March 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

It is day four: 30hours 53 minutes remaining

11 players still alive; Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to night

5 Votes for Monok Ochem; (Bek Okhan, Korabas, Alkend, Tiamatha, Eloth)


Players not voted; Ampelas, Denul, Kessobahn, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom,

The hammer was Denul.

I suspect Alkend, you, Korbas and Denul of being possible symps.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day five: 4 hours 28 minutes remaining

9 players still alive; Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to night

1 Vote for Okral Lom; (Alkend)
2 votes for Tiamatha; (Bek Okhan, Eloth)
1 Vote for Bek Okhan; (Tiamatha)




Players not voted; Denul, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom,

[Tiamatha]

Why am I starting to feel like this is town bickering with town.

Where is Kesso and Okaros?

[Tiamatha]

and Denul.

[Korabas]

It's difficult to make any decisions when over half the people who are still playing have very few posts over the last little while.

I'm willing to believe that both Tiamatha and Bek Okhan are town for now, but that doesn't leave me with much else to go on.