[Tiamatha]

Since I had some time I decided to address the connection you think that I have. See the below below. If you can be bothered to look at the quotes below that you can see that I brought up Lock as suspicious before Eloth mentioned him. Then several people voted for him and then 2 hours after I had mentioned my suspicion I came back on and voted for him. At that time there was next to no talk about Monok. That line died out due to the Silchas modkill. So you can take that connection and shove it. Trying to fucking frame me motherfucker.

Bek Okhan, on 20 March 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

and how am I connected to him?

If you would rather be a fucktard I can go away until I come back on line tomorrow morning. I think that it is obvious that I don't give a shit. So how do YOU want to play it. If you want my vote then answer the fucking questions. If not I don't give a rats ass. I don't have enough time this morning to go through the game thread. If you feel that Monok is the best bet for a scum lynch then say why. If it makes sense then I will vote for him with you. If not then I will vote for the next best suspect. Yesterday I told you that I wasn't going to be back on. I have a shit ton of stuff to do again today. Once I leave work I don't look at the thread and since I am busy at work it is really easier if I don't have to look at the thread. Now are you going to make this easy or do you think that based on two days of no lynches you don't need my vote to lynch today.

1. His behaviour of coming on, saying he'll read, then leave. next day, rinse repeat without a recap of his opinions. So, why does he stick around? It also seems clear that as a 100% blank slate, scum won't off him.

2. There's the day 1, where Eloth named 3 suspects that were equal to him (Lock, Rikkter, MO). You immediately voted Lock. Rikkter died in a NK. That's a tie to you and to Eloth: him for bringing it up, you for voting one.

3. GL had the hots for him, and GL was a certified townie with time on his hands and a decent grasp of the game.

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Kilava, on 13 March 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Sorry garrotted a Claw - the officer who read the note to the surviving Bridgeburners was I seem to recall the last one bar Toc.

Vote Lock

Kessobahn, on 13 March 2014 - 07:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 March 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

Whiskeyjack shook his head. The only force intact was the Moranth, they seemed determined to field only the Black regiments, using the Gr for lifts and drops—and where the hell was the Gold he'd been hearing much about? Damn those unhuman bastards anyway. Pale's gutters ran red from their hour of retribution. Once the burial shifts were through there'd be a few more hills outside the city's walls. Big ones.

There would be nothing to mark thirteen hundred dead Bridgeburners though. The worms didn't need to travel far to feast on those bodies. What chilled the sergeant to his bones was the fact that, apart from a few survivors, nobody had made a serious effort to save them. Some high ranking officer had delivered Tayschrenn's commiserations on those lost in the line of duty, then had unloaded a wagonload of tripe about heroism and sacrifice. His audience of thirty-nine stone-faced soldiers looked on without a word. The officer was found dead in his room hours later, expertly garotted. The mood was bad—nobody in regiment would have even thought of something so ugly five years ago. But now they didn't blink at the news.

Garotte—sounds like Claw work. Kalam had suggested it was a setup, an elaborate frame to discredit what was left of the Bridgeburners. Whiskeyjack was sceptical.

He tried to clear his thoughts. If there was a pattern it would be a simple one, simple enough to pass by unnoticed. But exhaustion see in like a thick haze behind his eyes. He took a deep lungful of the morning air. 'The new recruit?' he asked.

Kalam rose from his haunches with a grunt. A faraway and longlook entered his eyes. 'Maybe,'

he said finally. 'Pretty young for a Claw though.'

'I never believed in pure evil before Sorry showed up,' Quick Ben said. 'But you're right, she's awfully young. How long are they trained before they're sent out?'

So this is where a claw is mentioned, but I remember this as actually being a part of the book, so it's possible this is just flavor, and/or Lock knows something we don't. It's only put up as a possibly, and WJ is skeptical, and also

Spoiler

Sorry isn't a claw, she's possessed,

so no claw there. I'm leaning towards Lock knowing something we don't. And for a day one case, this is better than nothing.

Vote Lock

Rikkter, on 13 March 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:

I'm going tk bed soon, I'm more inclinced to jump on the lock train as his initial take on the flavour stood out and his meandering into book conversation reeks of distraction.

heading to bed soon and we're down to 3 hours.
vote Lock

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Nice middle of the road post.

I do agree that there isn't really any distinction between the three. However I feel that Lock's posts after his claw post smacks of desperation.

Vote Lock

[Tiamatha]

For the above I mean that several people voted for Lock before I voted for him. Not that several people voted between Eloths comment and mine.

[Tiamatha]

Ok I have to take off. I have some suspicions for scum but you'll have to wait until I have time tomorrow to post a case or two.

[Alkend]

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

I actually doubt that, given we NAILED HIDDENONE! SCUM! Yeeeeaaahhhahahhhahah baby!

That being said:

Denul, on 20 March 2014 - 07:31 PM, said:

Guys, just checking in... It's ridiculous that MO has been not lynched on 2 separate occasions.


This ones for you Gusty!!!

vote MO

I'll be around much more tomorrow.

{Dramatization}

HiddenOne: I guess it's inevitable that my low posting not contributing ass is finally going to bite it. Quickly, get in there and hammer so you look innocent.

Denul: Ok!

{/Dramatization}



At least that's how it pictures in my head.

[Okral Lom]

Sorry people, just checking in to avoid mod-kill, I should be on properly in a couple of hours

[Alkend]

Path-Shaper, on 20 March 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

It is day three: 2 minutes remaining

12 players still alive; Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to night



2 Votes for Kessobahn; (Alkend, Denul)
4 Votes for Monok Ochem; (Galayn Lord, Okaros, Bek Okhan, Ampelas)
1 Vote for Tiamatha; (Korabas)
1 Vote for Ampelas; (Eloth)




Players not voted; Kessobahn, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Tiamatha

Path-Shaper, on 20 March 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

It is day four: 0 minutes remaining

11 players still alive; Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to night

6 Votes for Monok Ochem; (Bek Okhan, Korabas, Alkend, Tiamatha, Eloth, Denul)


Players not voted; Ampelas, Kessobahn, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Okral Lom,

Here are the successful and failed trains on MO.

Bek is the most PI since he's consistent and seems legit. Korabas seems less suspicious, since it was really those two throwing down fast that made it seem inevitable. I know that doesn't make ME seem all that more innocent for joining the train, but that's how I saw it yesterday so I'm just being honest. The rest of the people on the actual lynch train are only marginally less suspicious.

On the failed lynch train, Okaros is on early and allegedly drunk... Ampelas added when it was unlikely a lynch was going to happen, so that doesn't lower my suspicion of them.

And of course, there are the people who didn't vote at all.

Of those, Kesso and Okral Lom are stinky stinky to me. Kesso's only real contribution is to defend himself against the case I made Day 3. Having two incredibly low non-commital posters as scum MO and Okral Lom, is not that much of a stretch. He said he'd be back, and hasn't come back, so let's do it this way. And of course, I'm still looking cross-eyed at Denul.

Vote Okral Lom

[Bek Okhan]

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

Korabas, on 20 March 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

Looks like we have at least 2 more scum to go for, Shadowthrone and Cotillion.

Yeah if the clues in the scenes are correct it is an inherited kill. Which I believe some people were already talking about earlier.

edited for quote tags.from the phone, so formatting sucks.


alkend mentioned it.
Incidentally, scene seems to confirm too that my 3 killer theory is right. Question is if they know one another.
Scene also "suggests" half of town knows one other townie. Hedge + Fiddler, Kalam + QB, GP + Tattersail, Tay + Adjunct?

This post has been edited by Bek Okhan: 21 March 2014 - 05:21 AM

[Bek Okhan]

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

Since I had some time I decided to address the connection you think that I have. See the below below. If you can be bothered to look at the quotes below that you can see that I brought up Lock as suspicious before Eloth mentioned him. Then several people voted for him and then 2 hours after I had mentioned my suspicion I came back on and voted for him. At that time there was next to no talk about Monok. That line died out due to the Silchas modkill. So you can take that connection and shove it. Trying to fucking frame me motherfucker.

Bek Okhan, on 20 March 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

and how am I connected to him?

If you would rather be a fucktard I can go away until I come back on line tomorrow morning. I think that it is obvious that I don't give a shit. So how do YOU want to play it. If you want my vote then answer the fucking questions. If not I don't give a rats ass. I don't have enough time this morning to go through the game thread. If you feel that Monok is the best bet for a scum lynch then say why. If it makes sense then I will vote for him with you. If not then I will vote for the next best suspect. Yesterday I told you that I wasn't going to be back on. I have a shit ton of stuff to do again today. Once I leave work I don't look at the thread and since I am busy at work it is really easier if I don't have to look at the thread. Now are you going to make this easy or do you think that based on two days of no lynches you don't need my vote to lynch today.

1. His behaviour of coming on, saying he'll read, then leave. next day, rinse repeat without a recap of his opinions. So, why does he stick around? It also seems clear that as a 100% blank slate, scum won't off him.

2. There's the day 1, where Eloth named 3 suspects that were equal to him (Lock, Rikkter, MO). You immediately voted Lock. Rikkter died in a NK. That's a tie to you and to Eloth: him for bringing it up, you for voting one.

3. GL had the hots for him, and GL was a certified townie with time on his hands and a decent grasp of the game.

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Kilava, on 13 March 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Sorry garrotted a Claw - the officer who read the note to the surviving Bridgeburners was I seem to recall the last one bar Toc.

Vote Lock

Kessobahn, on 13 March 2014 - 07:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 March 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

Whiskeyjack shook his head. The only force intact was the Moranth, they seemed determined to field only the Black regiments, using the Gr for lifts and drops—and where the hell was the Gold he'd been hearing much about? Damn those unhuman bastards anyway. Pale's gutters ran red from their hour of retribution. Once the burial shifts were through there'd be a few more hills outside the city's walls. Big ones.

There would be nothing to mark thirteen hundred dead Bridgeburners though. The worms didn't need to travel far to feast on those bodies. What chilled the sergeant to his bones was the fact that, apart from a few survivors, nobody had made a serious effort to save them. Some high ranking officer had delivered Tayschrenn's commiserations on those lost in the line of duty, then had unloaded a wagonload of tripe about heroism and sacrifice. His audience of thirty-nine stone-faced soldiers looked on without a word. The officer was found dead in his room hours later, expertly garotted. The mood was bad—nobody in regiment would have even thought of something so ugly five years ago. But now they didn't blink at the news.

Garotte—sounds like Claw work. Kalam had suggested it was a setup, an elaborate frame to discredit what was left of the Bridgeburners. Whiskeyjack was sceptical.

He tried to clear his thoughts. If there was a pattern it would be a simple one, simple enough to pass by unnoticed. But exhaustion see in like a thick haze behind his eyes. He took a deep lungful of the morning air. 'The new recruit?' he asked.

Kalam rose from his haunches with a grunt. A faraway and longlook entered his eyes. 'Maybe,'

he said finally. 'Pretty young for a Claw though.'

'I never believed in pure evil before Sorry showed up,' Quick Ben said. 'But you're right, she's awfully young. How long are they trained before they're sent out?'

So this is where a claw is mentioned, but I remember this as actually being a part of the book, so it's possible this is just flavor, and/or Lock knows something we don't. It's only put up as a possibly, and WJ is skeptical, and also

Spoiler

Sorry isn't a claw, she's possessed,

so no claw there. I'm leaning towards Lock knowing something we don't. And for a day one case, this is better than nothing.

Vote Lock

Rikkter, on 13 March 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:

I'm going tk bed soon, I'm more inclinced to jump on the lock train as his initial take on the flavour stood out and his meandering into book conversation reeks of distraction.

heading to bed soon and we're down to 3 hours.
vote Lock

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Nice middle of the road post.

I do agree that there isn't really any distinction between the three. However I feel that Lock's posts after his claw post smacks of desperation.

Vote Lock

[Path-Shaper]

It is day five: 23 hours 59 minutes remaining

9 players still alive; Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to night

1 Vote for Bek Okhan; (Alkend)




Players not voted; Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 March 2014 - 08:25 AM

[Eloth]

Goddammit HO

So yep, I think the suspicion is confirmed. One killer at a time, inherited kill. But what I'm wondering is, do we have a Shadowthrone and Cotillion in this game, or did Monok nominate someone to succeed them?

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Who brought up my vote and said that I was connected. Because whom ever did it and didn't look back a page at my first comment is where I am laying my vote today.

[Tiamatha]

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Who brought up my vote and said that I was connected. Because whom ever did it and didn't look back a page at my first comment is where I am laying my vote today.

It was GL who brought it up. But then you guys promptly ignored the first part and just went with my vote after Eloth. Typical. I went back over GL's day one analysis and he completely ignored the Modkill cluster that caused MO day one train to derail.

[Korabas]

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Who brought up my vote and said that I was connected. Because whom ever did it and didn't look back a page at my first comment is where I am laying my vote today.

It was GL who brought it up. But then you guys promptly ignored the first part and just went with my vote after Eloth. Typical. I went back over GL's day one analysis and he completely ignored the Modkill cluster that caused MO day one train to derail.

Was it GL? I thought it was Bek who originally made the accusation that you and Monok may be connected.

At any rate, I'm going to have to have a better look at a few people today, hopefully come up with some ideas.

Tatts - when does the weekend freeze start?

[Path-Shaper]

It is day five: 18 hours 30 minutes remaining

9 players still alive; Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to night

1 Vote for Okral Lom; (Alkend)




Players not voted; Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Korabas, Okaros, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,

Weekend Freeze will begin at 12:00am GMT. Leaving 8 hours 30 minutes left on the clock. Clock will reopen Monday 9:00am GMT. Timeout will be 17:30pm GMT.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 March 2014 - 03:18 PM

[Tiamatha]

Korabas, on 21 March 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Who brought up my vote and said that I was connected. Because whom ever did it and didn't look back a page at my first comment is where I am laying my vote today.

It was GL who brought it up. But then you guys promptly ignored the first part and just went with my vote after Eloth. Typical. I went back over GL's day one analysis and he completely ignored the Modkill cluster that caused MO day one train to derail.

Was it GL? I thought it was Bek who originally made the accusation that you and Monok may be connected.

At any rate, I'm going to have to have a better look at a few people today, hopefully come up with some ideas.

Tatts - when does the weekend freeze start?

No it was GL in one of his long boring color posts.

[Tiamatha]

Bek just ignored shit in the post. Which is only mildly suspicious. Of course GL and Bek both ignored that the modkill of Sichas is what cause the monok train to stall out.

I am getting busy. Hopefully I will have time later today to look at a couple of people.

[Bek Okhan]

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Korabas, on 21 March 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 March 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

"Framing you" is an interesting wording, there, Tiam.
It suggests deliberate scumminess.I gladly await your confirmation of whether or not that's what you meant.

Who brought up my vote and said that I was connected. Because whom ever did it and didn't look back a page at my first comment is where I am laying my vote today.

It was GL who brought it up. But then you guys promptly ignored the first part and just went with my vote after Eloth. Typical. I went back over GL's day one analysis and he completely ignored the Modkill cluster that caused MO day one train to derail.

Was it GL? I thought it was Bek who originally made the accusation that you and Monok may be connected.

At any rate, I'm going to have to have a better look at a few people today, hopefully come up with some ideas.

Tatts - when does the weekend freeze start?

No it was GL in one of his long boring color posts.

Boring or not, he was pretty much on the money on some things, yes? Prevented a town lynch, CI'd one guy plus himself, giving us a certified townie for a day who could make cases without being rubbished, did exactly that, and through it, delivered the first scum death.
Also, your statements are disparaging to the extreme but you bring nothing to the table yourself, not even really to clear yourself. Funny, because, "It's easy to be dismissive or disparaging", isn't that roughly what you told Okaros?


Seems pretty pot and kettle to me.
Basically, the amount of comments that are from you and don't relate to yourself (or general warnings like "don't be surprised if there's scum on the train already") over the last couple of days can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and that's one way to remain squeakily clean.

Tiamatha, on 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

I would like to point out before I have to take off for the morning that scum want lynches as much as town. So some of the people who are so frantic to drive lynches are probable symps.

Whaddaya know, he was scum. And he wasn't lynched for a couple of days, either, despite being on the board.

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Also, your statements are disparaging to the extreme but you bring nothing to the table yourself, not even really to clear yourself. Funny, because, "It's easy to be dismissive or disparaging", isn't that roughly what you told Okaros?

You will never find a quote of me saying anything like that. Ever. Not in any game not at any time. Feel free to look way back if you want. I do not say things like dismissive or disparaging. That goes against my moral code.

I say things like you donkey fucking ass monkey how does your moms strap on taste after she pulls it out of your ass and makes you suck it clean.

That is you attempting to put more bullshit words in my mouth that have no business being there. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when it seemed you purposefully was misconstruing and ignoring earlier posts in order to make something appear. But now you are not even trying to misuse quote and are in stead just making things up. That is very scummy.


One thing that I have been looking at is that since there seems to be an inherited kill there is no reason for scum to not get on another scums train early or really often. Sure there is a numbers factor in the win. But the potential for scum to become a PI is worth a lot. Potentially the game.

When I get back on I will be looking strongly at you.

[Tiamatha]

Bek Okhan, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Basically, the amount of comments that are from you and don't relate to yourself (or general warnings like "don't be surprised if there's scum on the train already") over the last couple of days can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and that's one way to remain squeakily clean.

Don't use "" trying to frame some of your bullshit on me. Use the fucking quotes were I say what you think I say. All your attempts to put words in my mouth do is make you look scummier.

[Eloth]

PS, the current vote is on Okral Lom, not Bek Okhan.

The reason I asked my question above is because it might influence how killers play the game. If Shadowthrone and Cotillion are around from the start, then they might want to hide super low until such time as they gained the kill. No one wants to be kynched as a non-killing killer. But, at the same time, the presumption would be that they knew who Monok was, in which case we'd also look at those against a Monok lynch. Which, yes I'm aware, puts me in there, as i was always against a Monok lynch. But I simply saw better targets elsewhere.

If, on the other hand, Monok chose his successor and that person effectively became a new killer, then all the above isn't even worth considering. However, I think it is some form of the above, for the reason that we have already seen two people who knew each other. That could be abused too easily, if, say, in this scenario Galayn had become the new killer and imediately knew to take out Kilava as Fiddler and presumably a roled town.

So, my helief is that Monok's successor is one of his low poster buddies. Kesso, Okral, Korabas, maybe Tiam, would be my first ports of call.