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Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:
Okral Lom, on 13 March 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:
Silchas Ruin, on 12 March 2014 - 08:55 PM, said:
Back.
Anyone up for a few card games? I've got me Deck o' Dragons right here in me pocket.
Anyone up for a few card games? I've got me Deck o' Dragons right here in me pocket.
Well it's tenuous at best, but the only thing really game related that stuck out at me is this. Either it's just RP or Silchas is trying to set themselves up as Fiddler.
Or as Tattersail (see PS' last story post). Or maybe Tayschrenn. But I agree Okral, the wording sounds a bit odd.
Ok, so day 1 still pretty slow. Day 1 votes are coming out like a normal game; cases built on nothing are usually better than actual nothing, since they at least provoke argument/defense/discussion. But I agree with whoever said the current votes are weak and oddly, looking at Silchas... I think he's probably telling the truth about the RP bit, but that doesn't mean it's the WHOLE truth. It could be RP AND a bit of signalling/truth/info. And of course the best place to hide information like that would be in the context of RP, which is perfect in this game since pretty much everyone is here in the first place because they love Malaz, so it's always familiar territory. So there's that.
The whole whoops-everyone-is-taking-offense-at-this-post bit doesn't bother me much. Who really cares? It certainly wouldn't be lynch-worthy in my eyes, even on day 1. But it's the mild-mannered self-offering-on-the-lynch-platter comment from Silchas that gets me. Anyone who self-votes or offers to be lynched is automatically a lynch target in my mind, because it is a play that makes no sense except from an "emotional appeal" perspective (AND THIS IS MAFIA, NO ONE CARES HOW YOU FEEL BITCH). Play like this always hurts whatever side the player is on. If he's scum, it's bad because it makes you a lynch target and on day 1 that is pretty fucking bad. If he's town, it's still bad, because it's just plain and simple bad town play. Assuming you're just some RI posting around and RPing and whatever, offering to be lynched never helps town. In M&P games, RIs win the game for town - that is their only job, to stay alive and study the thread and connect information to find scum. If you know you're town but you think your lynch won't matter cause you're just RI, you are wrong. If we DO lynch you, it was a waste, and not just because we lost a town player, but because that player (Silchas in this case) knows he's town but redirects the lynch onto himself. He should know it's always better to lynch an unknown than a confirmed RI. Yes, you might hit another townie of course, but this is expected, especially on day 1. What we do gain from the lynch is train information and new info to analyze on day 2. So I HATE HATE HATE the self-lynch offering. If you're doing it for meta reasons, like low posting, either ride out the low poster game or get modkilled and stop playing so we don't waste our most important info-gathering tool on you - the lynch.
All that being said, it's unfortunate that Silchas has already made this play because it just makes me think we have to lynch him. Offering to be lynched is inherently suspicious, because it implies bad play (reasoning above) or weaseling out of the spotlight out of pathos from other players. Pathos has no place in Mafia, so the suspicion always remains unless we all sympathize with the poor man's plight and decide to basically CI him for the rest of the game, since it's not often we revisit lynch targets unless they do something egregious that pings the scumdar.
Anyway, that was too long a post to say that I think Silchas made a mistake that deserves pressure unless a more obvious target presents itself.
Vote Silchas
for now. I should probably be around until timeout though.
