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#481 User is offline   Morgoth 

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 12:05 PM

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostTsundoku, on 06 January 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

View PostEmperorMagus, on 06 January 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:

The West's only hope is to hope that the "Canadian Dragon" awakens at some point in the next 25 years, I guess? :p


Sorry, but I just had a mental image of an extremely polite dragon that says "eh" a lot and breathes maple syrup instead of fire. :(

... aaaand back to topic ...

I'm fearful of what happens with Russia's cool new weapons (if they're real or close to it) when Russia goes down the shitter again like back in the 90's.


A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


If it's going to be ruled from Oslo or Stockholm, I'm afraid that the Danes cannot agree to such a union.





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Posted 07 January 2019 - 01:01 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 12:05 PM, said:

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostTsundoku, on 06 January 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

View PostEmperorMagus, on 06 January 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:

The West's only hope is to hope that the "Canadian Dragon" awakens at some point in the next 25 years, I guess? :p


Sorry, but I just had a mental image of an extremely polite dragon that says "eh" a lot and breathes maple syrup instead of fire. :(

... aaaand back to topic ...

I'm fearful of what happens with Russia's cool new weapons (if they're real or close to it) when Russia goes down the shitter again like back in the 90's.


A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


If it's going to be ruled from Oslo or Stockholm, I'm afraid that the Danes cannot agree to such a union.





Sure you can. Anything to make sure it's not ruled from Stockholm.


But you don't understand! Norway used to be our bitc...our vassal. It would be inappropriate to let our former imperialistic and glorious nation be ruled by our former slav...vassals. Posted Image
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 01:32 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


You do realise that's how my many-many times great grandfather met my many-many times great grandmother, while benevolenting the bejeezus out of Ireland?

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

But you don't understand! Norway used to be our bitc...our vassal. It would be inappropriate to let our former imperialistic and glorious nation be ruled by our former slav...vassals.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:40 AM

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:


A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


If it's going to be ruled from Oslo or Stockholm, I'm afraid that the Danes cannot agree to such a union.


Since the Swedish people would never stand for being ruled from Copenhagen or Oslo I'd suggest inviting Finland into the Empire, they have working armed forces and no one has a beef with them I think. It would also make the empire the ~11th largest economy (larger then Russias) with a more or less insignificant part of the world population.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:17 AM

I suggest you make the capital the North Pole
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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:22 AM

View PostChance, on 10 January 2019 - 06:40 AM, said:

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


If it's going to be ruled from Oslo or Stockholm, I'm afraid that the Danes cannot agree to such a union.


Since the Swedish people would never stand for being ruled from Copenhagen or Oslo I'd suggest inviting Finland into the Empire, they have working armed forces and no one has a beef with them I think. It would also make the empire the ~11th largest economy (larger then Russias) with a more or less insignificant part of the world population.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:08 PM

View PostChance, on 10 January 2019 - 06:40 AM, said:

View PostPrimateus, on 07 January 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 07 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:


A United Scandinavian Empire, ruled from Oslo by benevolent Norsemen.


If it's going to be ruled from Oslo or Stockholm, I'm afraid that the Danes cannot agree to such a union.


Since the Swedish people would never stand for being ruled from Copenhagen or Oslo I'd suggest inviting Finland into the Empire, they have working armed forces and no one has a beef with them I think. It would also make the empire the ~11th largest economy (larger then Russias) with a more or less insignificant part of the world population.


So you want to be ruled from Finland?
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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:21 PM

View PostVengeance, on 10 January 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:


So you want to be ruled from Finland?


Not really but a nordic union/single state would probably be a good idea for a great many reasons.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:16 AM

And Oslo is the only obvious choice. It's a good geographical center between Stockholm and Copenhagen (If we want a Nordic empire then it's equally well placed with the inclusion of Finland and Iceland). It's not offensive (The Swedes don't like the Danes and Fins, the Fins and Danes and Norwegians don't like the Swedes) It's pretty far from the Russian border. Not to mention that we've got all the money.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:31 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 11 January 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

And Oslo is the only obvious choice. It's a good geographical center between Stockholm and Copenhagen (If we want a Nordic empire then it's equally well placed with the inclusion of Finland and Iceland). It's not offensive (The Swedes don't like the Danes and Fins, the Fins and Danes and Norwegians don't like the Swedes) It's pretty far from the Russian border. Not to mention that we've got all the money.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:28 AM

View PostVengeance, on 10 January 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

So you want to be ruled from Finland?


It's crazy talk is what it is! Ruled from Finland? That'd put our capital perilously close to Russia. We can't have that!

View PostMorgoth, on 11 January 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

And Oslo is the only obvious choice. It's a good geographical center between Stockholm and Copenhagen (If we want a Nordic empire then it's equally well placed with the inclusion of Finland and Iceland). It's not offensive (The Swedes don't like the Danes and Fins, the Fins and Danes and Norwegians don't like the Swedes) It's pretty far from the Russian border. Not to mention that we've got all the money.



More crazy talk. But I would suggest a compromise. We BUILD a new island to place our capital on.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:30 PM

As a non-Fennoscandian who knows very little about Fennoscandia, the Faroes should definitely be the capital

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:47 PM

View PostPrimateus, on 11 January 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 10 January 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

So you want to be ruled from Finland?


It's crazy talk is what it is! Ruled from Finland? That'd put our capital perilously close to Russia. We can't have that!

View PostMorgoth, on 11 January 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

And Oslo is the only obvious choice. It's a good geographical center between Stockholm and Copenhagen (If we want a Nordic empire then it's equally well placed with the inclusion of Finland and Iceland). It's not offensive (The Swedes don't like the Danes and Fins, the Fins and Danes and Norwegians don't like the Swedes) It's pretty far from the Russian border. Not to mention that we've got all the money.



More crazy talk. But I would suggest a compromise. We BUILD a new island to place our capital on.



Yes put the island into the middle of the North Sea right at the mouth where the waves are the most distructive. Thus the best place to protect the new empires capital. Norway would fund it then they would have no money and be on the same financial footing as the rest of the empires providences.

Then we invade.... everyone our boats can get to.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:54 PM

No boats, we put the island in Kattegat and build three bridges from each of the three member nations.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 07:45 AM

There is that plan to create a Scandinavian megacity, from Oslo, along Sweden's west coast stretching down to Copenhagen and Malmø.

That would be where the power is concentrated.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:19 PM

View PostAlternative Goose, on 12 January 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

There is that plan to create a Scandinavian megacity, from Oslo, along Sweden's west coast stretching down to Copenhagen and Malmø.

That would be where the power is concentrated.


I think we should just go straight for the ecumenopolis!
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:48 PM

To bring us a bit on-topic, it's also election year in Ukraine. The Presidential election is in the spring and parliament in the autumn.

The unpopular president Poroshenko hopes to capitalize on the success of his recent political venture- the 2 (formerly un-recognized) orthodox churches in Ukraine agreed to unite and were then recognized as canonical autocephalous (autonomous) church by the Patriarch of Constantinople. Prior to this, the only canonically recognized orthodox church in Ukraine was the technically independent Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchal. So this is an important (albeit largely symbolic) move with which Poroshenko hopes to whitewash all his failures when it comes to the war, the economy and failure to curb corruption.

Sadly, this may prove sufficient given his primary opponent is the best odious Yulia Tymoshenko, who continues to rely primarily on populist rhetoric, but is also unpopular enough with the key oligarchs that they might throw their support behind Poroshenko just to avoid a "loose cannon".
The good news is that the nominally pro-Russian political forces are split, and don't have a single candidate either, making it unlikely any of them will make it to the run-off.

Hard to say what the parliamentary would look like at this point.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 09:19 AM

Gearing up for the election: Nominations close on Thursday, and Poroshenko still hasn`t submitted his.

Once all the names are in, I`ll probably do a write-up on the interesting candidates.
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Posted 27 January 2019 - 04:16 AM

Been ages! Since I posted in here...

Solid ! The Russian people are allies and we should always pursue a peaceful interaction. I say as an American we should seed Europe to the Russians completely. These are countries that’s people desire to be ruled by a system of power.

Abolish NATO. Form the a trilateral power pact with US-Russia-China based off complete and absolute central governments. Progress is close towards letting the system take control.

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 07:10 AM

Nico. I usually don't mind your weird world view but this is one of those times where you should shut the fuck up and think before posting.

A part of Mentalists country has been invaded by Russia and they're threatened by civil war. Instigated with the same kind of propaganda and manipulation that US is seeing now. People have died, people are living in fear.

You're being incredibly disrespectful.

Furthermore you're talking about Western Europe here. You know, the old country. Where America's forefathers came from. Your allies. Your Business Partners. Family and friends. You want us to be invaded because, what? You don't like NATO?

Are you as ignorant as Trump? Did you sleep through cold war history lessons? America needs NATO. We're literally a fire belt between The USA and Russia. If we were absorbed by Russia, willingly or not, then America would be facing an opponent that had access to all of Europes ressources and factories. Russia would control the Mediterranean. What would that do to the balance of power and the world's economy?


Who would you sell shit to? Who would back you up in this future UN?

30 years from now the US will be the world's third biggest economy behind China and India and Brazil might be breathing down your neck. If you sever ties with Europe you are going to be fucked.

We'll retool our military and make new economic treaties with out you.

You seriously need to stop listening to NRA TV or what ever is rotting your brain and start thinking for yourself.

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