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Eclipse 5 R9 player order: blue, green, black, white, red, yellow

#2241 User is offline   Gnaw 

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Posted 20 January 2015 - 09:35 PM

CF, would you like some advice? I think I see a way for you to give Twelve a serious run for first place.

And after looking a little more, if you don't do what I'm thinking, then Twelve will do it and definitely win.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 01:00 PM

Sure, fire away, I've been weighing options
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 06:33 PM

If it's my go,

UPGRADE Phase Shields over Plasma Cannons and Positron Computers on Interceptors.


This is the first time I've taken a look at the whole map in a long while, which shows how early I became entirely superfluous to this game. That's quite a fleet that's built up south-west of the GC.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 07:17 PM

Khell, You are taking off both the Cannons and computers off of your interceptors and replacing both with phase shields? Are you sure you want to do that? You won't have anyway to attack me and as I'm the defender I don't even need weapons to win that fight.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:05 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 January 2015 - 06:33 PM, said:

If it's my go,

UPGRADE Phase Shields over Plasma Cannons and Positron Computers on Interceptors.


This is the first time I've taken a look at the whole map in a long while, which shows how early I became entirely superfluous to this game. That's quite a fleet that's built up south-west of the GC.


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:19 PM

View Posttwelve, on 21 January 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Khell, You are taking off both the Cannons and computers off of your interceptors and replacing both with phase shields? Are you sure you want to do that? You won't have anyway to attack me and as I'm the defender I don't even need weapons to win that fight.



"If you cannot win, then at least make it the most boring fight in history."

Old Hydran Saying, first spoken just now.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:37 PM

We build a Cruiser in 103 for 5 Materials
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:43 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 21 January 2015 - 01:00 PM, said:

Sure, fire away, I've been weighing options


CF, forget the GC. It's a waste of time for only 4 pts.

You can move 3 ships and you have wormhole generator. your fighters can only move one hex at a time, but that doesn't matter because they exist mostly for pinning purposes.

action move
  • two interceptors 104 - 102. That's 3 ships in 102 so Twelve can't move through it.
  • one cruiser 104-307 nukes == 4VP
  • you already have traitor card. put ambassador cube on mats.
  • -5 upkeep
Action move

  • one interceptor (2 moves) 104-230 nukes == 6VP
  • one cruiser 104 - supernova
  • -7 upkeep
Probably a build action here depending upon whether you're attacked by green or yellow -10 upkeep

Action Influence:

  • Move influence disc from 312 to supernova.
  • put cubes on science and mats.
  • colonize grey planets with 2 money.
  • flip ships
  • -13 upkeep $21 income with $1 banked. 3 colony ships available
You'll need 2 discs to influence the two monoliths you take off of D'rek. Now you're at 35 VP and dropping D'rek out of contention.

So you're at -21 effectively (those two discs you need to save) If necessary you can do a second influence action and remove discs from both the supernova and 311. Return orbital to science and the others to mats.


If anyone attacks 104 you build 2 ints and move the cruisers to whatever is vulnerable.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:48 PM

View PostBlend, on 21 January 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

We build a Cruiser in 103 for 5 Materials


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:55 PM

Oh. What's in it for me? D'rek falls below me in points. :p
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:13 PM

I can see that plan getting CF ahead of me, but it won't get him ahead of Twelve. You really want to let Twelve win? :p

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

View PostD, on 21 January 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

I can see that plan getting CF ahead of me, but it won't get him ahead of Twelve. You really want to let Twelve win? :p


If CF doesn't do it, Twelve will. One fighter to pollux to balance your starbase, one fighter to your homeworld.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:25 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 January 2015 - 10:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 January 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

I can see that plan getting CF ahead of me, but it won't get him ahead of Twelve. You really want to let Twelve win? :p


If CF doesn't do it, Twelve will. One fighter to pollux to balance your starbase, one fighter to your homeworld.


Obviously I am going to move one of my dreadnaughts to defend it if necessary.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:31 PM

View PostD, on 21 January 2015 - 10:25 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 21 January 2015 - 10:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 January 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

I can see that plan getting CF ahead of me, but it won't get him ahead of Twelve. You really want to let Twelve win? :p


If CF doesn't do it, Twelve will. One fighter to pollux to balance your starbase, one fighter to your homeworld.


Obviously I am going to move one of my dreadnaughts to defend it if necessary.


Your Dreads are pinned and you can't build anything else (Unless you have a ton of science to convert that I didn't check on).
I don't know what I'm doing but it sounds good.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:43 PM

View Posttwelve, on 21 January 2015 - 10:31 PM, said:

Your Dreads are pinned


Uh? Since when? Last map I looked at had them all by themselves in their hexes...?

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:44 PM

:p
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:52 PM

View PostGnaw, on 08 January 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

Convert 10 science to 5 materials. Convert 4 money to 2 materials.

Build two cruisers in 108.






View PostD, on 19 January 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

Darn that lack of half-wormholes in the top right... need to reduce twelve's points somehow but I don't see a way. Guess I have to build and hope for the best.

BUIld two monoliths - in 307 and 221



View PostGnaw, on 20 January 2015 - 12:19 AM, said:

Okey, first the cube goes back to science track


Move:
  • both Cruisers from 108 to 221
  • Cruiser from 308 to 101

Offer diplomatic relations to Twelve: If he accepts, place money cube on ambassador.

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Posted 22 January 2015 - 02:04 AM

Oh right, Gnaw is Morgoth. Hmm.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 22 January 2015 - 02:36 AM

I prefer MorGnaw myself.
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Posted 22 January 2015 - 03:24 PM

Well, we're not going to make it EASY for Twelve to keep his lead, we SHOULD be able to take a few points from him, but Twelve's got like a bajillion ships on the map, so if no one else is trying to take bites out of him, I don't see us being able to make any difference.
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