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what book do you dislike That everyone else seems to love

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:48 AM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 21 March 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

Dang it guys I started reading Pawn of Prophecy, thanks a bundle!


1.0 Sendarians - a practical people. Used as the measuring stick against all other Alorns. Of all the Sendars, Durnik is the Sendarist. (aka Charlie Brown, but for some reason really gets Polgara's juices flowing, if you know what I mean.) I predict that future fantasy authors will steal my slow and self conscientious blacksmith coupled with a bold and strong female love interest and exploit that trope until the readers can't take it anymore.

2.0 Chereks: Vikings. They like to drink and fight, and fight and drink, then drink some more, until they are ready to fight their drinks.

3.0 Drasnians: A bullshit country used to justify the coolest character I'll ever write about. Of all the James Bonds, Silk is the James Bondist (hang on, I'll leave that fetish for some guy who will copy my Blacksmith character).
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:17 AM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 21 March 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

Dang it guys I started reading Pawn of Prophecy, thanks a bundle!

I'm so sorry.
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:33 AM

Don't be. It could be far worse. He could be reading Way of Kings.
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 07:51 AM

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...

Man I forgot all about them! Hah good times!
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 11:33 AM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 22 March 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...

Man I forgot all about them! Hah good times!


"Aunt Polgara, what are those clay balls you keep under the linen?"
"Those are Moranth munitions, Belgarion, and you really should not touch them."
"Why, Aunt Polgara?"
"Because they blow shit up, darling. Now go play with your friends."

...oh my
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:22 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 22 March 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 22 March 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...

Man I forgot all about them! Hah good times!


"Aunt Polgara, what are those clay balls you keep under the linen?"
"Those are Moranth munitions, Belgarion, and you really should not touch them."
"Why, Aunt Polgara?"
"Because they blow shit up, darling. Now go play with your friends."

...oh my




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Posted 24 March 2016 - 11:17 AM

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 22 March 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 22 March 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...

Man I forgot all about them! Hah good times!


"Aunt Polgara, what are those clay balls you keep under the linen?"
"Those are Moranth munitions, Belgarion, and you really should not touch them."
"Why, Aunt Polgara?"
"Because they blow shit up, darling. Now go play with your friends."

...oh my




Keep reading. It gets better. :)


Yeah, but after the 4th installment I felt the author was just phoning it in, adding in pointless lycanthrope/vampire threesomes, milking it for more filthy lucre. And wtf was with all the braid-tugging and sniffing? :)

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 10:25 AM

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View PostTiste Simeon, on 21 March 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

Dang it guys I started reading Pawn of Prophecy, thanks a bundle!


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Posted 26 March 2016 - 04:05 AM

Since Worry's post in another thread reminded me: WoT.

It's cliche, terribly paced, the characterisation is shallow and few of the characters stay interesting throughout, the dialogue is often woeful, the plot regularly descends into utter tedium... it's like someone took all the stereotypical criticisms of bland post-Tolkien fantasy and did their best to shove them into one series.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 06:21 AM

View PostEmperorMagus, on 20 March 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

Pretty much anything written by Charlie Stross.
His books are genius from the concept point of view (he has beautiful ideas and awesome plotlines), but I absolutely abhor his humour and find his characters grating and boring.
Disclaimer: I've only read Singularity Sky and part of Accelerando and the initial chapters of The Atrocity Archives.
I would give a lot to read Singularity Sky/ Accelerando in either Peter Watts or Ryan Reynold's prose.

Edit: I can't figure out his obsession with horrible romance side plots either.


A word on Stross... I hated Accelerando... I couldn't manage more than a few pages of Singularity Sky.... I acknowledge that Atrocity starts a bit slow... But push thru and Atrocity grows on you, and the rest of the Laundry series is just awesome.
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Posted 26 March 2016 - 06:22 AM

View PostTsundoku, on 24 March 2016 - 11:17 AM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

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View PostTiste Simeon, on 22 March 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 22 March 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Silk.
It's all about Silk.

And so was this...

Man I forgot all about them! Hah good times!


"Aunt Polgara, what are those clay balls you keep under the linen?"
"Those are Moranth munitions, Belgarion, and you really should not touch them."
"Why, Aunt Polgara?"
"Because they blow shit up, darling. Now go play with your friends."

...oh my




Keep reading. It gets better. :nuke:


Yeah, but after the 4th installment I felt the author was just phoning it in, adding in pointless lycanthrope/vampire threesomes, milking it for more filthy lucre. And wtf was with all the braid-tugging and sniffing? :p


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 01:45 PM

The thread veered sharply into Eddings (of which I only read Elenium and thought it was ok) and WoT. I never read it, and the general impression i've gathered means I probably never will, b/c it seems like too much of a time commitment for smth fairly formulaic.

One series I've realized I don't really care for anymore is ASOIAF. I still feel the first 3 were a great trilogy (one of the best), but between Feast being mediocre, Dance being okay, but nowhere near ASoS, and the prolonged waiting, I find I've really moved on. I'll probably read the series when/if it ever comes to an end, but the books won't be a Day 1 purchase the way ADWD was-i'll probably wait for the mmpb.

Oddly, I don't feel the same fatigue towards Bakker, even though I was never crazy about The Second Apocalypse.
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 04:34 AM

I suspect that Eddings would be a tough read for most 'adult' fant lit fans. Rereading it as an adult carries a certain nostalgia, but reading it for the first time... Well, see upthread.
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 07:06 AM

Rereading as an adult is painful, even with the nostalgia
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 08:50 AM

Recently read the comic book version of the Eye of the World - which is the first "re-read" for me since it came out in ... 1990? And New Spring, which I had not read before. Not too bad actually.

Sadly it reminded me how much I hated the middle books like A Crown of Swords, The Path of Daggers, most of Winter's Heart and the truly godawful Crossroads of Twilight.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 04:40 AM

I just finished WISE MAN'S FEAR and the whole Kingkiller trio-wannabe is not for me.

It's got elements of amazing, for sure. He is an absolute master at applicable metaphors. Enough to make me hate him. And KK books are easy to pick up and go. Quick little bits and you're always right at home in Kvothe's head. Every word is of this character.

Thing is, after reading 'bigger' fantasy series, this just seems like nothing is going on. His quest for answers is not half as interesting as it should be. As in, there are never any damn revelations. The same can be said of the 'will they won't they?' between he and Denna. How many coincidental runnings-into are allowed before we have to assume Kvothe is ta'veren? WMF is basically just a laundry list of events as he hops about improving himself. There's just no intrigue or mystery to the whole series. The biggest danger is him running out of money, which is realistic and adds to the Kvothe flavoring of everything, but is still relatively boring. Now, I'm not saying have scenes threaten to see Kvothe 'almost dying' - it would not work well as the reader KNOWS he's just fine (since it's his story), but he never has much to lose and is so competent that he's clearly not even going to lose that, whatever that is. And floundering Sim gets the prettiest girl on campus. Quaint. For a place that has 10-15 males for every female, Kvothe sure knows every single totally beautiful girl in the bunch - although that's more a critique of The Name of the Wind.

Now, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed it. I enjoy things easily. But I'll take the weaving story lines and staccato action over especially elegant prose. Regular prose suffices if the story beneath it is teeming with excitement, wonder, mystery, danger, and depth.
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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:58 AM

I'd agree with that, Joel. For me, KK is about a 6/10 after the first book. It was exactly average save the interesting magic system which earned it the extra point. It'd be much better if more happened and the protagonist wasn't such an utter Mary Sue. In addition, I found the 'amazing prose' to be grossly overstated - it was average in every damn way. And to have such a huge gaps between 2 and 3 so that 3 can be 'just right'... after reading 1, that gap is inexcusable.
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Posted 23 May 2016 - 03:14 PM

To say nothing of the Dragoncow.
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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:18 PM

I thought we agreed to say nothing of the dragoncow
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