[Imperial Historian]

Muon source is one of the few discoveries I'd consider taking at this point in the game. I can't decide whether to put it on dread, cruiser or interceptor. If I was going missiles having it on the interceptor would be a no brainer, but I'm not at all sure I will get missiles this game with my very low tech rate, and in that case will I be even building many interceptors? Hmmm let me think about this for a bit.

Whilst I'm waiting colonise the two planets in the hive hex

then my upkeep is:

£ 0 (1-7+6)
S 8 (5+3)
M 12 (4+8)

Upkeep -1

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw before you bankrupt a hex to meet upkeep we should decide on a plan for the round.

I have limited moves, but can hit twelves homeworld, either of the ancients by the GC or any combination of the above (but will probably not be able to influence them).

Alternatively I could grab advanced mining, and ramp up the production, but then my attacking options are more limited.

Tatts I think you should grab advanced econ if it's available, otherwise advanced labs, advanced robotics or improved hull would be good techs to grab.

Have you done your upkeep? i'm struggling to keep track of how many moves you can do, but I think it is three right (and obviously a lot more if you get advanced econ)? If d'rek attacks you may be occupied defending. What are you thinking in terms of expansion? I can probably help you take out an ancient, or take twelves homeworld if you get a ship there.

Gnaw I think you need to concentrate on upgrading and laying down some troop to defend arcturus/keep the GC unoccupied/ready to take the GC later. Again I don't know what your move options are, but we could try and get you into twelves homeworld if you wanted.

I'd like to keep twelve contained on the other side of the hive if at all possible, as it will be a pain to deal with his ships if he gets them behind our lines.

So given that, what do you reckon is the best hex to deinfluence? There isn't really a hex we are definitely going to take next round, so maybe it's best to deinfluence vega, as it contributes least?

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian said:

1384034759[/url]' post='1096133']
... we should decide on a plan for the round.

A plan??
We don't need no stinking plan!



Edit. Just got home. I'll give a real answer in a bit.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 09 November 2013 - 11:36 PM

[cerveza_fiesta]

Thoughts on turn order Morgoth? Do we want to give the northern or the Western alliance tech pick before us? Neither are presenting much of a threat at the moment.

[Galactic Council]

I know what Tatts is buying.

Your mod is an idiot. Move on nothing to see here.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 10 November 2013 - 02:05 AM

[Galactic Council]

Round 3 Cleanup Tech for Round 4
Your mod is an idiot. Move on nothing to see here.

Spoiler

There were 68 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Spoiler

• Neutron Bombs 05
• Flux Missile
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Fusion Source 05
• Artifact Key 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Fusion Drive 03
• Fusion Source 06
• Sentient Hull
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Advanced Labs 02
• Orbital 02
• Neutron Absorber
• Plasma Missile 02
• Gluon Computer 03
• Advanced Labs 04
• Quantum Grid 02
• Phase Shield 05
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Tachyon Source 03
• Monolith 03
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Tractor Beam
• Gluon Computer 04
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Improved Hull 05
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Advanced Economy 02
• Starbase 04
• Phase Shield 04
• Gauss Shield 03
• Positron Computer 05
• Quantum Grid 03
• Orbital 03
• Monolith 02
• Advanced Economy 03
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Advanced Economy 05
• Positron Computer 02
• Zero-Point Source
• Advanced Mining 03
• Nanorobots 05
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Quantum Grid 04
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Gauss Shield 04
• Artifact Key 02
• Advanced Economy 04
• Advanced Labs 03
• Starbase 05
• Fusion Source 04
• Tachyon Source 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Orbital 05
• Improved Hull 06
• Interceptor Bay
• Plasma Missile 04
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Monolith 01
• Conifold Field
• Plasma Missile 03
• Tachyon Source 01
• Fusion Drive 04

Timestamp: 2013-11-10 00:04:27 UTC

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Number of downloads: 0

Top 5 == predictive for round 3

• Advanced Labs 05
• Advanced Mining 05
• Fusion Drive 05
• Positron Computer 03
• Orbital 04

• Neutron Bombs 05
• Flux Missile
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Fusion Source 05
• Artifact Key 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Fusion Drive 03

1 rare, 6 regular



61 remaining
[spoiler]

• Fusion Source 06
• Sentient Hull
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Advanced Labs 02
• Orbital 02
• Neutron Absorber
• Plasma Missile 02
• Gluon Computer 03
• Advanced Labs 04
• Quantum Grid 02
• Phase Shield 05
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Tachyon Source 03
• Monolith 03
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Tractor Beam
• Gluon Computer 04
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Improved Hull 05
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Advanced Economy 02
• Starbase 04
• Phase Shield 04
• Gauss Shield 03
• Positron Computer 05
• Quantum Grid 03
• Orbital 03
• Monolith 02
• Advanced Economy 03
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Advanced Economy 05
• Positron Computer 02
• Zero-Point Source
• Advanced Mining 03
• Nanorobots 05
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Quantum Grid 04
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Gauss Shield 04
• Artifact Key 02
• Advanced Economy 04
• Advanced Labs 03
• Starbase 05
• Fusion Source 04
• Tachyon Source 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Orbital 05
• Improved Hull 06
• Interceptor Bay
• Plasma Missile 04
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Monolith 01
• Conifold Field
• Plasma Missile 03
• Tachyon Source 01
• Fusion Drive 04

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 10 November 2013 - 02:07 AM

[Galactic Council]

Round 3 Cleanup Predictive Tech for Round 5

Your mod is an idiot. Move on nothing to see here.

Spoiler

List Randomizer
There were 61 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Spoiler

• Gauss Shield 05
• Monolith 03
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Advanced Labs 02
• Gauss Shield 04
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Artifact Key 02
• Orbital 05
• Orbital 03
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Gauss Shield 03
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Monolith 02
• Plasma Missile 02
• Starbase 05
• Advanced Economy 03
• Interceptor Bay
• Plasma Missile 04
• Monolith 01
• Fusion Drive 04
• Advanced Economy 04
• Starbase 04
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Gluon Computer 03
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Orbital 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Plasma Missile 03
• Advanced Economy 05
• Quantum Grid 04
• Sentient Hull
• Fusion Source 06
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Neutron Absorber
• Advanced Economy 02
• Gluon Computer 04
• Tractor Beam
• Positron Computer 05
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Fusion Source 04
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Advanced Mining 03
• Positron Computer 02
• Quantum Grid 02
• Improved Hull 06
• Tachyon Source 01
• Tachyon Source 04
• Nanorobots 05
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Zero-Point Source
• Tachyon Source 03
• Advanced Labs 04
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Phase Shield 05
• Advanced Labs 03
• Improved Hull 05
• Conifold Field
• Quantum Grid 03
• Phase Shield 04

Timestamp: 2013-11-10 00:13:15 UTC

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Number of downloads: 0

Top 5 == predictive for round 5

• Gauss Shield 05
• Monolith 03
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Advanced Labs 02

56 remaining
[spoiler]

• Advanced Economy 02
• Advanced Economy 03
• Advanced Economy 04
• Advanced Economy 05
• Advanced Labs 03
• Advanced Labs 04
• Advanced Mining 03
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Artifact Key 02
• Conifold Field
• Fusion Drive 04
• Fusion Source 04
• Fusion Source 06
• Gauss Shield 03
• Gauss Shield 04
• Gluon Computer 03
• Gluon Computer 04
• Improved Hull 05
• Improved Hull 06
• Interceptor Bay
• Monolith 01
• Monolith 02
• Nanorobots 05
• Neutron Absorber
• Orbital 02
• Orbital 03
• Orbital 05
• Phase Shield 03
• Phase Shield 04
• Phase Shield 05
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Plasma Missile 02
• Plasma Missile 03
• Plasma Missile 04
• Positron Computer 02
• Positron Computer 05
• Quantum Grid 02
• Quantum Grid 03
• Quantum Grid 04
• Sentient Hull
• Starbase 04
• Starbase 05
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Tachyon Source 01
• Tachyon Source 03
• Tachyon Source 04
• Tractor Beam
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Zero-Point Source

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 10 November 2013 - 02:07 AM

[Gnaw]

Dumb question:

Can ambassador tiles be moved around on the player board? Not removed, just change places.

[Gnaw]

cerveza_fiesta, on 10 November 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Thoughts on turn order Morgoth? Do we want to give the northern or the Western alliance tech pick before us? Neither are presenting much of a threat at the moment.

that is an interesting question.

I vote counter-clockwise.

[Galactic Council]

Sorry for the delay. "Advanced Mining 03" seems to have escaped the svg file. Had to make sure it was an error there and not in the random.org lists.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 09 November 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

Gnaw before you bankrupt a hex to meet upkeep we should decide on a plan for the round.

I have limited moves, but can hit twelves homeworld, either of the ancients by the GC or any combination of the above (but will probably not be able to influence them).

Alternatively I could grab advanced mining, and ramp up the production, but then my attacking options are more limited.

Tatts I think you should grab advanced econ if it's available, otherwise advanced labs, advanced robotics or improved hull would be good techs to grab.

Have you done your upkeep? i'm struggling to keep track of how many moves you can do, but I think it is three right (and obviously a lot more if you get advanced econ)? If d'rek attacks you may be occupied defending. What are you thinking in terms of expansion? I can probably help you take out an ancient, or take twelves homeworld if you get a ship there.

Gnaw I think you need to concentrate on upgrading and laying down some troop to defend arcturus/keep the GC unoccupied/ready to take the GC later. Again I don't know what your move options are, but we could try and get you into twelves homeworld if you wanted.

I'd like to keep twelve contained on the other side of the hive if at all possible, as it will be a pain to deal with his ships if he gets them behind our lines.

So given that, what do you reckon is the best hex to deinfluence? There isn't really a hex we are definitely going to take next round, so maybe it's best to deinfluence vega, as it contributes least?

Gnaw, on 09 November 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 09 November 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

... we should decide on a plan for the round.

A plan??
We don't need no stinking plan!



Edit. Just got home. I'll give a real answer in a bit.

The real answer is I'm not sure.

Vega or Chi Draconus.

Morgoth's choice of free cruiser over VP is worrying as I'm sure he knew it would be. Twelve or Morgoth with a wormhole generator and we have problems. Rather large ones.

All these wonderful walls are about to come tumbling down I fear.

[Gnaw]

As much as I'd love to be chortling, snickering, grinning, guffawing, outright horse laughing schadenfreude is right around the corner.

(did you really think I wasn't going to do some rubbing in??)

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 10 November 2013 - 01:47 AM

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 10 November 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 09 November 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

Gnaw before you bankrupt a hex to meet upkeep we should decide on a plan for the round.

I have limited moves, but can hit twelves homeworld, either of the ancients by the GC or any combination of the above (but will probably not be able to influence them).

Alternatively I could grab advanced mining, and ramp up the production, but then my attacking options are more limited.

Tatts I think you should grab advanced econ if it's available, otherwise advanced labs, advanced robotics or improved hull would be good techs to grab.

Have you done your upkeep? i'm struggling to keep track of how many moves you can do, but I think it is three right (and obviously a lot more if you get advanced econ)? If d'rek attacks you may be occupied defending. What are you thinking in terms of expansion? I can probably help you take out an ancient, or take twelves homeworld if you get a ship there.

Gnaw I think you need to concentrate on upgrading and laying down some troop to defend arcturus/keep the GC unoccupied/ready to take the GC later. Again I don't know what your move options are, but we could try and get you into twelves homeworld if you wanted.

I'd like to keep twelve contained on the other side of the hive if at all possible, as it will be a pain to deal with his ships if he gets them behind our lines.

So given that, what do you reckon is the best hex to deinfluence? There isn't really a hex we are definitely going to take next round, so maybe it's best to deinfluence vega, as it contributes least?

Gnaw, on 09 November 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 09 November 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

... we should decide on a plan for the round.

A plan??
We don't need no stinking plan!



Edit. Just got home. I'll give a real answer in a bit.

The real answer is I'm not sure.

Vega or Chi Draconus.

Morgoth's choice of free cruiser over VP is worrying as I'm sure he knew it would be. Twelve or Morgoth with a wormhole generator and we have problems. Rather large ones.

All these wonderful walls are about to come tumbling down I fear.

You should have decided this before you did the tech draw... And you don't have chi draconus.

Anyway bedtime for me.

[Galactic Council]

Imperial Historian, on 10 November 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

You should have decided this before you did the tech draw... And you don't have chi draconus.

Anyway bedtime for me.

Fuck me running. At least I'm not the only one who hasn't done upkeep.


Tech draws above are null and void.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 10 November 2013 - 02:04 AM

[Khellendros]

Alright. The following is said with full awareness that had I been on the other side of the Nova Burst, I would likely not be saying anything.


Nova burst is a crock of shit. Sorry, but what are we supposed to do when you have an automatic 'win' button on your side? And no, I don't want to hear about how having more hull allows you to withstand it, it still provides an overwhelming advantage in any battle. And so again, what are we supposed to do? Wait around trying to build up hull while you take the GC (and then defend it with NB?)? Not attack you because again, you have NB?

It was not a genius play, it was the obvious play to any proactive move we made, and we were too retarded to remember you had it (or, in my case, even know what it was had I remembered). So basically we're supposed to sit around with our thumbs up our asses while you happily carry on gobbling VPs while waving your nuclear detterant around, assigned to you by random chance? Any first major engagement we have with you we're likely to be on the losing end of because of that, and the only good thing from this is that you at least had to use the fucking thing fairly early in the game. So Nova burst is a crock of shit.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 10 November 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

Alright. The following is said with full awareness that had I been on the other side of the Nova Burst, I would likely not be saying anything.


Nova burst is a crock of shit. Sorry, but what are we supposed to do when you have an automatic 'win' button on your side? And no, I don't want to hear about how having more hull allows you to withstand it, it still provides an overwhelming advantage in any battle. And so again, what are we supposed to do? Wait around trying to build up hull while you take the GC (and then defend it with NB?)? Not attack you because again, you have NB?

It was not a genius play, it was the obvious play to any proactive move we made, and we were too retarded to remember you had it (or, in my case, even know what it was had I remembered). So basically we're supposed to sit around with our thumbs up our asses while you happily carry on gobbling VPs while waving your nuclear detterant around, assigned to you by random chance? Any first major engagement we have with you we're likely to be on the losing end of because of that, and the only good thing from this is that you at least had to use the fucking thing fairly early in the game. So Nova burst is a crock of shit.

It's a one use item.

[Khellendros]

I'm aware of that. As I said, at least you had to use it fairly early.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 10 November 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

You should have decided this before you did the tech draw... And you don't have chi draconus.

Anyway bedtime for me.

Zeta Herculis.

That's what I get for thinking I didn't need to zoom another two levels.

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 10 November 2013 - 02:09 AM, said:

I'm aware of that. As I said, at least you had to use it fairly early.

In that case:


Phhhtttttt.

[Galactic Council]

Round 3 Rep Draw
302

http://orokos.com/roll/148462#
Description
r3 302 Morgoth rep draw. 2 tiles. 27 available
Results
1#1d27: 1 # 1 [1d27=1]
1#1d26: 1 # 16 [1d26=16]

A one and a two. Keep the two?



I looked at the rules and I think I've been doing something else incorrectly.

Quote

You may not draw more than five tiles. Choose one of the tiles and place it face down on your Reputation Track. Put the rest of the tiles back in the bag. If the track is full, you may return any of your Reputation Tiles (including the oneyou just drew or one from the track) in the bag. The tiles are drawn in the order the players entered the hex, so that the player who first entered the hex will draw all his tiles first.

I've been drawing a player's tiles, picking one, putting those tiles back in the 'bag' and then moving to the next player in the battle.

So for 212:

26 tiles available. IH draws 4 tiles and takes one.
25 tiles available. Tatts takes 1.

It should be:

26 tiles available. IH draws 4.
22 tiles available. Tatts draws 1.

Which is correct?

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 10 November 2013 - 02:49 AM