[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 11 June 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

Yeah, there's a official QA which states that you can never remove your alliance marker. So I assume I'll keep mine even though I'll be alone.

twelve is certainly not welcome to participate in tertiary education, but if IH wants to ditch his preschoolers I might be amenable.

Yeah, you have to keep the alliance marker even if you're in an alliance of one - it means you can't up and join a different alliance.

[Khellendros]

So, Awesome Alliance:

Looks to me like Tapper will be mostly busy protecting the GC and his borders with Morgoth. Meanwhile, there's unclaimed land to be had all of a sudden. I can reach it through Tapper's lands, while Gnaw and IH would be slowed down by having to go through Morgoth's territory (if they even intend to do that). I wonder if you two could provide enough of a threat on the borders to hold off, um, everyone, whilst I swoop in on those hexes for extra VPs? If I can swoop, that is.

[Khellendros]

Planta Upkeep:

2 money

6 science

5 materials

[Imperial Historian]

Do CFS combat rep tokens go back in the bag?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 12 June 2014 - 03:40 AM, said:

Do CFS combat rep tokens go back in the bag?

I don't think so (same for tech)... I think they go "in the box" ie not in the bags.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 12 June 2014 - 12:04 AM, said:

So, Awesome Alliance:

Looks to me like Tapper will be mostly busy protecting the GC and his borders with Morgoth. Meanwhile, there's unclaimed land to be had all of a sudden. I can reach it through Tapper's lands, while Gnaw and IH would be slowed down by having to go through Morgoth's territory (if they even intend to do that). I wonder if you two could provide enough of a threat on the borders to hold off, um, everyone, whilst I swoop in on those hexes for extra VPs? If I can swoop, that is.

The GC will be a primary focus. I still need one or two heavy production tiles in addition to it, though: my science and mats production will otherwise take too much of a hit to be sustainable in the long term. Kappa Volantis still seems the best way to go about it - it also gives us access to Formalhaut and the Systems Formerly Occupied by Cerveza.

Not sure if Morghy would actually want to defend Kappa Volantis, seeing as he'd have three frontline tiles to defend; he might bet on being more capable of holding on to Psi Capricorni and Procyon instead.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 12 June 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 June 2014 - 12:04 AM, said:

So, Awesome Alliance:

Looks to me like Tapper will be mostly busy protecting the GC and his borders with Morgoth. Meanwhile, there's unclaimed land to be had all of a sudden. I can reach it through Tapper's lands, while Gnaw and IH would be slowed down by having to go through Morgoth's territory (if they even intend to do that). I wonder if you two could provide enough of a threat on the borders to hold off, um, everyone, whilst I swoop in on those hexes for extra VPs? If I can swoop, that is.

The GC will be a primary focus. I still need one or two heavy production tiles in addition to it, though: my science and mats production will otherwise take too much of a hit to be sustainable in the long term. Kappa Volantis still seems the best way to go about it - it also gives us access to Formalhaut and the Systems Formerly Occupied by Cerveza.

Not sure if Morghy would actually want to defend Kappa Volantis, seeing as he'd have three frontline tiles to defend; he might bet on being more capable of holding on to Psi Capricorni and Procyon instead.

I'm not sure what the rrder of play for this round will be but I think it will make all the difference.

If Morgoth goes first, he can immediately influence Kappa Volantis from his cruiser and with another influence action after that have whichever of CF's hexes he wants. At that point, I would expect him to sit back and play defensive - if he doesn't lose anything major he's looking at about 45 points or more which is a very tough coconut to beat!

If Tapper goes first though, he can immediately move a ship into Kappa Volantis. Then neither of them can influence it this round and combat will determine who gets it.

[Imperial Historian]

Who passed first. I choose direction. I'm open to bribes, blandishments and convincing arguments

[cerveza_fiesta]

Morgoth did first pass as far as I know.

[Imperial Historian]

well then its all irrelevant. Rotation is clockwise. I go 2nd after morgoth.

Morgoth is going to be in a good situation economically and points wise, shifting off the low vp tiles he currently has for either better vp or planets hexes without breaching his borders. Interested to see what the vp totals stand as at the end of the round. I still think drek is in the best vp position, don't know if her allies drag her down enough though.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Imperial Historian, on 12 June 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

well then its all irrelevant. Rotation is clockwise. I go 2nd after morgoth.

Morgoth is going to be in a good situation economically and points wise, shifting off the low vp tiles he currently has for either better vp or planets hexes without breaching his borders. Interested to see what the vp totals stand as at the end of the round. I still think drek is in the best vp position, don't know if her allies drag her down enough though.

He can shift those hexes with a single influence move I realize. If he's careful with the math............................then he could do a single influence to get both KV and Procyon, then bankrupt his other hexes at upkeep. I suppose that limits the available colony ships though.

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 12 June 2014 - 04:24 PM

[Gnaw]

Galactic Council, on 11 June 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

Round 7 rep draws

Twelve draws one. 1. discards

221 Procyon


9 ones, 5 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

CF draws two. 2,1. Keeps 2.
D'rek draws one. 1. discards

Chi Draconis

9 ones, 4 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

Tatts draws two 2,1 Keeps 2, exchanges a 1 back to pile
D'rek draws zero.

twelve, on 11 June 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Don't I have an empty rep slot? Wouldn't I keep the one if it was empty? I'm still going to finish toward the bottom but any little bit helps.

Dammit. Yes, yes you would. jopaf rytgpiqehrip oaehg oskejfpbn spiouffvh airp fbsrf

I didn't realize that you could have all rep tokens and zero ambassadors.

Edit: that means that the rep draws for 221 and 203 have to be redone.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 12 June 2014 - 04:51 PM

[Gnaw]

Morgoth goes first, IH picks rotation.

CF gets no VPs for hexes because he had no hexes.

I still haven't found time to research the Alliance questions. You all are the experts but isn't there an inconsistency between "the alliance marker goes back to the box" and "player keeps rep tiles"? I'm going off of game 3; when I went bankrupt I kept my rep tiles. Was that a boo-boo?

I should have a bit more time later this afternoon to post a new board, count up VPs, etc. Sorry I've been slacking; family and health issues. (It's entirely possible that it's been 30 years or better since somebody told my sister to "sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen." She's not taking it well.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 11 June 2014 - 09:32 AM, said:

So do we have some sort of plan guys? I'd say minimum we need to dislodge drek from your homeworlds. A dread and cruiser for tatts should be fine for that if drek doesn't pin him first. Gnaw you probably need a bit more help with her neutron absorbers. Removing twelves foothold would be nice, but I'd be happy if we kept him contained. What are vp totals looking like? With morgoth on his own his VP totals may shoot up, but he is probably going to be hard pressed to hold on to what he has. Khell is pretty weak but can still probably grab enough territory to get high vps, and tapper is a lot more secure now CFS death ships aren't breathing over his shoulder. Drek might always decide she has a better chance on her own though if we beat up her allies enough though.

A plan?? Silly toaster, plans are like assembly instructions and DVR manuals. You only resort to them after everything else has failed. To do otherwise is not manly!

Morgy, I has a proposition for you. It's round 8 and I'm never going to get enough resources to trouble you. Let me have Procyon, Fomalhaut, and Spica for survival bases. After zipping an interceptor over to influence them, I'll exchange ambassadors with you gaining me the traitor card if I do fuck you over.

I'll have a foothold to go from which to go bother the hippie alliance. I'll be defending against Tapper. And you'll be free to defend against D'rek's wall walking ships.

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 12 June 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

Morgoth goes first, IH picks rotation.

CF gets no VPs for hexes because he had no hexes.

I still haven't found time to research the Alliance questions. You all are the experts but isn't there an inconsistency between "the alliance marker goes back to the box" and "player keeps rep tiles"? I'm going off of game 3; when I went bankrupt I kept my rep tiles. Was that a boo-boo?

I should have a bit more time later this afternoon to post a new board, count up VPs, etc. Sorry I've been slacking; family and health issues. (It's entirely possible that it's been 30 years or better since somebody told my sister to "sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen." She's not taking it well.

IMO, CF doesn't "keep" anything. He counts his score, and then *everything* that either belongs to him (ships, cubes, discs) or that is on his player board (tech, rep, alliance marker) go back "in the box". The only exceptions are other players' tokens (ambassadors) that are on his board - they go back to those players - and the traitor card would go back on the table untaken.

The "bags" for tech, rep, discoveries, etc, are all "on the table" so all the things that go back in the box don't influence them, at all.

[Morgoth]

I wont be able to do my round tonight I think, but I'll need a map and board update first at any rate I think.

[Gnaw]

D, on 12 June 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

The "bags" for tech, rep, discoveries, etc, are all "on the table" so all the things that go back in the box don't influence them, at all.

Gotcha.

[Galactic Council]

Gnaw, on 12 June 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 11 June 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

Round 7 rep draws

Twelve draws one. 1. discards

221 Procyon


9 ones, 5 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

CF draws two. 2,1. Keeps 2.
D'rek draws one. 1. discards



Chi Draconis

9 ones, 4 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

Tatts draws two 2,1 Keeps 2, exchanges a 1 back to pile
D'rek draws zero.

twelve, on 11 June 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Don't I have an empty rep slot? Wouldn't I keep the one if it was empty? I'm still going to finish toward the bottom but any little bit helps.

Dammit. Yes, yes you would. jopaf rytgpiqehrip oaehg oskejfpbn spiouffvh airp fbsrf

I didn't realize that you could have all rep tokens and zero ambassadors.

Edit: that means that the rep draws for 221 and 203 have to be redone.

Twelve draws one. 1. Keeps

221 Procyon


8 ones, 5 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

CF draws two. 2,1. Keeps 2.
D'rek draws one. 1. discards

Well that's a bit amusing. CF drew a 1, 2. Keeps 2.
D'rek draws a 1. discards
Chi Draconis

8 ones, 4 twos, 1 three, 0 fours remaining.

Tatts draws two 2,1 Keeps 2, exchanges a 1 back to pile
D'rek draws zero.

And Tatts draws a 2,1. Keeps 2. exchanges a back to the pile



Morgoth, did you influence Delta Corvi? (And nobody caught me calling it Delat?? I'm mildly disappointed.)

Edit: Morgoth, did you do an upkeep post?

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 13 June 2014 - 03:37 AM

[Galactic Council]

Oh. Shit. Forgot something very important.



Character : Tatts
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r7 392 supernova
Results
2#1d6: 2 # 5 [1d6=5] 1 [1d6=1]

6+3

You lived another day.

[Galactic Council]

Fresh boards up. Morgoth's upkeep from Round 7 not updated.