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gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse R9 player order: Twelve,IH,MorCF,Tapper,Khell,D'rek,Tatts,Gnaw

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:08 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I have been doing that all game. No longer will I react. I will take action!



Heh, and I look forward to finally no longer being last in the turn order. Oh the riches which shall be slightly less beyond my reach now!


I am almost last. It isn't nice Khell. I have to wait!! What to do?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:18 PM

You can still switch and reply to me here, you know I am lonely :D
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:22 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

You can still switch and reply to me here, you know I am lonely :D


Switching is a lot of effort. I gave my students mince pies today, but, it being the final class of term, half of them didn't turn up, so now I have like fifteen mince pies to eat myself.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

You can still switch and reply to me here, you know I am lonely :D


Switching is a lot of effort. I gave my students mince pies today, but, it being the final class of term, half of them didn't turn up, so now I have like fifteen mince pies to eat myself.


Yay!! More to you, are you now glad you didn't bring any lunch, because you are Khlever and predicted this to happen?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.


Nasty cross post.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.


Nasty cross post.



Indeed :D

I'm undecided whether to stay in my office and get on with some work, or go home and sleep (once again I was up most of the night finishing the presentation for the lecture, but at least this time I had the excuse of being out of the country over the weekend).

And Christmas essay marking. Joy. All has to be done electronically now, too. Soon I'll forget how to use a pen!
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:29 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.


Nasty cross post.



Indeed :D

I'm undecided whether to stay in my office and get on with some work, or go home and sleep (once again I was up most of the night finishing the presentation for the lecture, but at least this time I had the excuse of being out of the country over the weekend).

And Christmas essay marking. Joy. All has to be done electronically now, too. Soon I'll forget how to use a pen!


Have you not loaded the App the Big Bang guys created to help you mark?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.


Nasty cross post.



Indeed :D

I'm undecided whether to stay in my office and get on with some work, or go home and sleep (once again I was up most of the night finishing the presentation for the lecture, but at least this time I had the excuse of being out of the country over the weekend).

And Christmas essay marking. Joy. All has to be done electronically now, too. Soon I'll forget how to use a pen!


Have you not loaded the App the Big Bang guys created to help you mark?



Hmm, apparently I have managed to not see that episode.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.


Nasty cross post.



Indeed :D

I'm undecided whether to stay in my office and get on with some work, or go home and sleep (once again I was up most of the night finishing the presentation for the lecture, but at least this time I had the excuse of being out of the country over the weekend).

And Christmas essay marking. Joy. All has to be done electronically now, too. Soon I'll forget how to use a pen!


Have you not loaded the App the Big Bang guys created to help you mark?



Hmm, apparently I have managed to not see that episode.


Maybe I dreamed it?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM

Directorate Upkeep

Money = 1-7+10=4
Science = 0+18=18
Material = 1+6=7


- RE replacement for IH -

It's probably not a good idea to just deliberately bankrupt out of the game just to take IH's spot Gnaw. I agree with others - first try to find a replacement player and if that fails then just have consensus control between you and Tatts.

Just bankrupting the draco out of the game for the sake of switching is a little weird because it's too easy of an out for an underperforming faction - I feel like your desire to remain in the game as draco is much stronger if you don't have the option of just shapeshifting into a mechanema.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:36 PM

Or maybe I've forgotten.


Tatts, shall I research several small things, or one large thing? Quantity or quality?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:38 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Directorate Upkeep

Money = 1-7+10=4
Science = 0+18=18
Material = 1+6=7


- RE replacement for IH -

It's probably not a good idea to just deliberately bankrupt out of the game just to take IH's spot Gnaw. I agree with others - first try to find a replacement player and if that fails then just have consensus control between you and Tatts.

Just bankrupting the draco out of the game for the sake of switching is a little weird because it's too easy of an out for an underperforming faction - I feel like your desire to remain in the game as draco is much stronger if you don't have the option of just shapeshifting into a mechanema.


Aren't all factions/ players underperforming compared to yours? :D

I would prefer a replacement player, but it sucks not to have IH. Gnaw and I would not be good at controlling IH's moves.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:38 PM

CF, I am envious of your upkeep. You've done well this game just by keeping quiet, patient, and non-confrontational. When's all that going to stop, eh? :D
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:41 PM

@ Morgoth


So what's the plan for next round here. One of us should for sure grab those missiles. I am happy to do it, but I almost feel like they'd be of more use to you sitting on the front lines. It's a cheap tech for either of us and can make a pretty big difference in a fight.

I can afford that plus gluon computers this round (even though it basically drains me of resources), and I'll make an influence action to switch around some production on Spica for more materials. If you grab the missiles then my resources will probably go into monolith research + some more physical defenses or somesuch.

Or are you looking for some different tech in your first choice?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:41 PM

How much science do you have?
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

CF, I am envious of your upkeep. You've done well this game just by keeping quiet, patient, and non-confrontational. When's all that going to stop, eh? :D



Soon I suspect. Thankfulyl we do hold a bit of a Scientific advantage. We'll see if that's enough.

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

How much science do you have?


Me? 14 I think.
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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:45 PM

Upkeeps

View Posttwelve, on 09 December 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Well since Plan C is out I doubt that IH will retreat out of 304. So I'll go and do my upkeep.

Upkeep $4 bank + 8 Income -7 Upkeep = 5 Banked
Science 2 banked + 6 income = 8 Banked
Materials 10 banked + 8 Income = 18 banked
(5$/8S/18M Upkeep -1)
Round 5 VP total: 12 (2 hexes, 3 tech, 5 Rep tiles, 0 Diplomacy tile, 0 Discovery tile, 2 Race bonus)




View PostKhellendros, on 09 December 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

Khell's will be done!

UPKEEP:

Money:

Current Amount: 0
Upkeep: -17
Income: 21
New Amount: 4


Science:

Current Amount: 6
Income: 8
New Amount: 14


Materials:

Current Amount: 2
Income: 4
New Amount: 6


Starting production next round: $15, S4, M3 (return cube from orbital to science track)
Starting upkeep: -1
VP count: 16




View PostGnaw, on 10 December 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

Upkeep:

-21. 15 income. 0 in bank. Oh no!

Bankrupt Delta Eridani. -17, 15.

Bankrupt Aldebaran. -13, 12

Bankrupt Delta Corvi. -10, 10.

$0 money.

Sci 4 +1 bank == 5

Ma 3 + 1 bank == 4.

Start round One with $2, Sci 4, Ma 3 and in control of Sigma Draconis.

End round Five with $0, Sci 5, Ma 4 and in control of Sigma Draconis.


I don't think I'm playing this correctly.



View PostD, on 10 December 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

End of Combat Phase - Influence Rigel


Start of Upkeep Phase - Colonize Rigel (Mat, Sci, Adv Mat)


Upkeep:

Money = 0 +15 -17
Science = 0 +18
Materials = 1 +8

Bankrupt! Remove disc and science cube from Geminga.

Money = 0 +15 -13
Science = 0 +15
Materials = 1 +8


Resources at start of round 6 = 2 money / 15 science / 9 materials



View PostTapper, on 10 December 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

Colonization orders:

1 money on a grey square.
1 mats on the mats planet.


Upkeep: -21.
Income money: 10.
Income science; can't remember - 6 probably.
Income materials; 8.

Gap: -11 = 3 discs.
Discard from 102 (science cube), Pulsar (mats cube), system bordering Morgoth (mats cube).

Chmeee gnaw is insutffcientoy preared tto proces thtat roder at ths thimsel



View PostMorgoth, on 10 December 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

Now, what's my discovery tile?

upkeep pre-tile

Upkeep - 21

$ 2 / +24 = 5
S 2 / +15 = 17
M 11 / +4 = 15



View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

-17 Upkeep = 10 discs = 7 actions + 3 hexes

Bank == $6, S 1, M 1.

Production = $15

S = 6

M = 4

New totals

$4, S7, M5

Unbuilt ships == 8 interceptors, 2 cruisers, 1 dreads, 4 starbases

Tech == Neutron Bombs, Gauss shield, Improved Hull, Point Defense, Positron Computer, Nanorobots, Fusion Drive

VP? I guess.. = 12 = 2 from hexes + 1 ambassador + 1 from Tech + 6 from reputation + 2 from discovery



View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Directorate Upkeep

Money = 1-7+10=4
Science = 0+18=18
Material = 1+6=7


- RE replacement for IH -

It's probably not a good idea to just deliberately bankrupt out of the game just to take IH's spot Gnaw. I agree with others - first try to find a replacement player and if that fails then just have consensus control between you and Tatts.

Just bankrupting the draco out of the game for the sake of switching is a little weird because it's too easy of an out for an underperforming faction - I feel like your desire to remain in the game as draco is much stronger if you don't have the option of just shapeshifting into a mechanema.

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 10 December 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Directorate Upkeep

Money = 1-7+10=4
Science = 0+18=18
Material = 1+6=7


- RE replacement for IH -

It's probably not a good idea to just deliberately bankrupt out of the game just to take IH's spot Gnaw. I agree with others - first try to find a replacement player and if that fails then just have consensus control between you and Tatts.

Just bankrupting the draco out of the game for the sake of switching is a little weird because it's too easy of an out for an underperforming faction - I feel like your desire to remain in the game as draco is much stronger if you don't have the option of just shapeshifting into a mechanema.


Aren't all factions/ players underperforming compared to yours? :D

I would prefer a replacement player, but it sucks not to have IH. Gnaw and I would not be good at controlling IH's moves.


No, not really. I just haven't had to invest much in military yet.

EDIT - and RE IH's moves, another player is obviously ideal, but you both will be coaching him on the overarching strategy anyway. I figure joint control would be the closest thing to coaching a new player through the last few rounds anyway.

But that's just my opinion. I don't feel real strongly about it either way. If Gnaw wants to bankrupt out (which he stated he might do earlier anyway) and assume control of the Mechanema then I'm cool with it as long as the other players are.

View PostKhellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

CF, I am envious of your upkeep. You've done well this game just by keeping quiet, patient, and non-confrontational. When's all that going to stop, eh? :p


I figure strategy has to depend a lot on the board layout that you're dealt. I chose to research right away and got blocked from easy Tier 1 access, therefore my best bet was to hide behind my choke point and turtle. My last 2 games have been fairly aggressive so I'm more or less exploring the pacifist option. Not ruling out military action, but not until there's a blistering need for it.

Also, my points total isn't the hottest thing. Morgoth has a massive advantage with his perma resesarch VPs. I know I'm dragging the alliance down and that the best option is going to be for me to concentrate as much as possible on VP assets until the end of the game. I could pivot to military, but I may have already missed that opportunity. I feel like a strategic pivot has diminishing returns the later in the game it occurs, and I'm still sitting pretty for turtling...so that's what I'm going to do.

I gotta say, it's less stressful! :D

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