[Galactic Council]

Ganoes Paran, on 16 November 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

provisional dread to 310

noted

[Galactic Council]

Round 4 Action Phase


Turn 1

Spoiler

Tatts

• Research Improved Hull
• Upkeep -5
• Bank $4, S8, M14
• Production $15, S6, M4

Gnaw

• research neutron bombs -2 sci
• -5 upkeep. 0, Sci 7, Ma 13

Twelve

• Research plasma missiles convert 6 materials to science
• 1$, 0S, 13 M upkeep -3

Imperial Historian

• research advanced mining
  
• Convert 3 production to 1 science,
  
• Upkeep -2 £0 S=0 P=9

Morgoth

• Research - Fusion drive and Fusion Source for 7 science
• $ 2, S 3, M 7,
• Upkeep - 5

CF - RESEARCH - Advanced labs


Tapper .- Research Gauss Shield for 2 science, (middle track).

Khell

• RESEARCH Fusion Source for 6 Science.
• $0, S2, M13

D'rek - RESearch Neutron Bombs for my next action.

Turn 2

Spoiler

Tatts -

• Research Point Defense put it on middle track - 9 science convert 4 materials into 1 science to cover this.
• Upkeep -7
• Bank $4,S0,M10

Gnaw

• Research Cloaking Device -7 science put on middle track
• $0, Sc 0, Ma 13. -7 upkeep

Twelve -

• Gnaw stick with my original provisional
• Build two orbitals in 310 and 318. Colonize them both with science.
• (1$, 0S, 2M Upkeep-5)
• Exchange Ambassadors with IH. Both send monetary gifts.

Imperial Historian

• So upgrade cruiser with 2 improved hull over electron computer and in the blank space, and one positron computer over the hull.
• Upkeep -3 £0 S0 M9

Morgoth provisional Upgrade - Add fusion source and fusion drive to cruiser

CF - Upgrade starbases - Imp hull on blank spot and imp. hull over one regular hull.

Tapper - Influence.

• Flip a colony ship for 1 science. Remove disc from Aldebaran. Turn that colony ship face-up.
• Gnaw, I think you removed the money cube on Aldebaran to the material track instead? Fixed

Khell - INFLUENCE

• Epsilon Carinae and Lambda Serpentis. Colonise all planets (grey planet with science cube). Reveal the discovery.
• So what wondrous creation do I get this time, GC? A clapped-out interceptor? A tech I already possess maybe? Oh, a piece of lint from your pocket perhaps?
  
• Discovery is Free Ancient Cruiser 02. He keeps as cruiser.
  

D'rek - Provisional: Research Advanced Mining (-9 science)

Turn 3

Spoiler

Tatts -

• Upgrade Cruiser and Dreadnought, Improved Hull over normal hull.
• Upkeep - 10
• Bank $4,S0,M10
• Production $15,S6,M4

Gnaw - Build

• 2 interceptors in Arcturus
• $0, Sc 0, Ma 7
• -10 upkeep.

Twelve - Provisional Influence

No I will have one adv material slot not populated. Don't populate 304 with an influence disk and colonize the adv material slot and I'll be good.

• -remove influence disk on supernova
• -return all three population cubes to materials
• reset 2 colony ships 3 ships available.
• -move influence disk from player board back to supernova
• -populate 2 grey slots on supernova to science. use the last colony ship on the adv material slot on the supernova while we are at it.
• (1$, 0S, 2M Upkeep -7
  

Imperial Historian -

• BUILD 2 x cruisers in the hive hex
• Upkeep -5 £0 S0 M1

Morgoth - Move - both cruisers to my single tier 2 system

CF

• CONVERT 4 money to 2 materials.
  
• BUILD Orbital in Psi Capricorni (or whatever it's called...up next to Arcturus and Alpha Centauri, NW of my homeworld),
  
• populate with SCIENCE.
  
• BUILD Starbase in Formahaut. POPULATE two advanced science slots, one on homeworld and one on Formahaut.
  • @Rules:
  • Not that I have anything to do with an extra colony ship just now, but does the above constitute a use of 2 or 3 colony ships? In other words, does building an orbital require a colony ship to populate it or does it populate by default? Has to be populated
    
• I should add that my provisional move is incumbent on no aggressive action or posturing taken against me or my ally.

Tapper

• I think the money cube from Aldebaran was moved to materials, instead.
• fixed
  

• Research Positron Computer and flip 3 colonyships for science, please - it should come with a discount of -3, and +3 science gained --> 10 - 5 + 3 = 8.
• That also gives me a discovery tile, please - any ships/orbitals/warp portals et cetera are deployed in my homeworld should I keep them.
  • http://orokos.com/roll/149569#
    Description r4 Tapper magellan 4th tech discovery. 19 available
    Results 1#1d19: 1 # 19 [1d19=19]
  • Shard Hull - place over hull point on dread.
    
• so I'd be at 5 money (+8 income), 8 science (+6 income), 6 materials (+6 income) at upkeep -7.

Khell

• And Tapper sounds like he'll be researching, so I will say:
• Turn 3: RESEARCH Neutron Bombs.
• $0, S0, M13

D'rek

INFluence:

• --move a disc from the influence track to Aldebaran
• --move a disc from Delta Eridani to Phi Piscum (science cube goes back to population track)
• --colonize Advanced Materials slot in Beta Lyrae
• --colonize money slot in Phi Piscum
• --colonize Advanced Materials slot in Aldebaran
• --flip up two colony ships
• --colonize Advanced Science slot in Aldebaran
• --colonize Advanced Science slot in Phi Piscum

Turn 4

Tatts

• Pass 1st of Round
• Upkeep - 10
• Bank $4,S0,M10
• Production $15,S6,M4

Gnaw -

• Move 2 interceptors from Arcturus to Epsilon Indi.
• $0, Sc 0, Ma 7. -17 -13 upkeep

Twelve

• Provisionally PASS Second of round
  
• (1$,0S,2M Upkeep -7)

IH

• move 2 x crusiers into twelves homeworld
  
• Upkeep -7 £0 S0 M1
  • Return the diplomatic relations cube to the materials track, take the traitor card
  • Twelve - Return mine to Money

Morgoth - Move - both cruisers from 201 to 221

CF - Pass

Tapper - Influence and flip colony ship

Khell -

D'rek - Pass


Turn 5

Tatts - provisional Move dread to 310

Gnaw -

Twelve -

IH -

Morgoth -

CF -

Tapper -

Khell -

D'rek -

[Khellendros]

Hmm, I was of a mind to pass before using up all my moves, but seeing as it's transpired that pretty much everyone has passed before me, I might as well get an upgrade in for my final move.


UPGRADE: Remove one Plasma Cannon from dread; Insert Nuclear Drive in blank spot on Dread, and in blank spot on Cruiser.

[Gnaw]

Dammit. I should have built cruisers instead of interceptors.

I can do one action. That leaves me needing to convert 6 mats to money to pay upkeep. And the only action that would make sense would be to pull the two interceptors out of Tapper's hex. Pass and I lose 6 mats to his dread. Pull them and I lose 6 mats to upkeep.

IH, Tatts. Thoughts?

Edit: hell, it would help if Morgy took Arcturus.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 17 November 2013 - 06:15 AM

[Gnaw]

Morgoth. Have you and CF noticed that Tapper right now is as vulnerable as he's probably going to be all game?

I have the dread nailed down. He has resources. But not quite enough.

• Build a dread
• Buy AntiMatter cannon

he can do one or the other.

And you could attack his homeworld with 3 cruisers in 3 actions.

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 17 November 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Dammit. I should have built cruisers instead of interceptors.

I can do one action. That leaves me needing to convert 6 mats to money to pay upkeep. And the only action that would make sense would be to pull the two interceptors out of Tapper's hex. Pass and I lose 6 mats to his dread. Pull them and I lose 6 mats to upkeep.

IH, Tatts. Thoughts?

Edit: hell, it would help if Morgy took Arcturus.

I would do nothing. Having more material next turn is better than anything you can do with one action. You can just retreat your interceptors.

[Gnaw]

Mogoth, CF:

Right now Tapper is in as weak a position as he is likely to be for the remainder of the game. A fair amount of resources but not many moves

If forced he can get in this round:

• anit matter cannon
• build another dread

can't do both.

So the worst you could face is 3 interceptors with AM cannons.

Morgoth can field 3 cruisers with ease. 3 actions could put 3 cruisers into Tapper's homeworld.

I've got the dread pinned. And CF's starbases keep my last interceptor out of your territory.

[Tapper]

Given the ruthlessness with which Twelve is being dealt with, I have severe doubts that Morghy would want to over-extend, especially given the positions of both Tatts' and IH's dreads.
I've been a good neighbour and our interest has never been in war with either of them - it was in the centre.

[twelve]

Tapper, on 17 November 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Given the ruthlessness with which Twelve is being dealt with, I have severe doubts that Morghy would want to over-extend, especially given the positions of both Tatts' and IH's dreads.
I've been a good neighbour and our interest has never been in war with either of them - it was in the centre.

I'm not dead yet.

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 17 November 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Tapper, on 17 November 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Given the ruthlessness with which Twelve is being dealt with, I have severe doubts that Morghy would want to over-extend, especially given the positions of both Tatts' and IH's dreads.
I've been a good neighbour and our interest has never been in war with either of them - it was in the centre.

I'm not dead yet.

Indeed he's not.

But Morgy could put a hurt on you.

[Morgoth]

hurt (v.)

c.1200, "to injure, wound" (the body, feelings, reputation, etc.), also "to stumble (into), bump into; charge against, rush, crash into; knock (things) together," from Old French hurter "to ram, strike, collide," perhaps from Frankish *hurt "ram" (cf. Middle High German hurten "run at, collide," Old Norse hrutr "ram"). The English usage is as old as the French, and perhaps there was a native Old English *hyrtan, but it has not been recorded. Meaning "to be a source of pain" (of a body part) is from 1850. To hurt (one's) feelings attested by 1779. Sense of "knock" died out 17c., but cf. hurtle. Other Germanic languages tend to use their form of English scathe in this sense (cf. Danish skade, Swedish skada, German schaden, Dutch schaden).

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, on 17 November 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

hurt (v.)

c.1200, "to injure, wound" (the body, feelings, reputation, etc.), also "to stumble (into), bump into; charge against, rush, crash into; knock (things) together," from Old French hurter "to ram, strike, collide," perhaps from Frankish *hurt "ram" (cf. Middle High German hurten "run at, collide," Old Norse hrutr "ram"). The English usage is as old as the French, and perhaps there was a native Old English *hyrtan, but it has not been recorded. Meaning "to be a source of pain" (of a body part) is from 1850. To hurt (one's) feelings attested by 1779. Sense of "knock" died out 17c., but cf. hurtle. Other Germanic languages tend to use their form of English scathe in this sense (cf. Danish skade, Swedish skada, German schaden, Dutch schaden).

There is also a possibility of an alliance change.

[Morgoth]

I am quite fond of my alliance as it is, actually. Are you saying you'd like to join our little club? You'd have to publish several articles in peer reviewed publications of the highest quality. We, as in several of my PHDs, have gone through the relevant publications but have found nothing. A cursory search of the Grid have produced nothing but a few recipes for pure energy cookies, hardly the necessary qualifications for membership of the University and its sister schools.

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, on 17 November 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

I am quite fond of my alliance as it is, actually. Are you saying you'd like to join our little club? You'd have to publish several articles in peer reviewed publications of the highest quality. We, as in several of my PHDs, have gone through the relevant publications but have found nothing. A cursory search of the Grid have produced nothing but a few recipes for pure energy cookies, hardly the necessary qualifications for membership of the University and its sister schools.

I said possibility.

And I assure you I have several monographs on our Cousins just needing some polishing.

[Imperial Historian]

You know that alliance changes aren't possible right?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 17 November 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

You know that alliance changes aren't possible right?

There's still one more flame alliance token, so somebody can join it - either twelve or anyone else after they betray their current alliance.

[Imperial Historian]

I thought you couldn't take an alliance token if you already had another, and even if you betray an alliance you will still have one alliance token

[Gnaw]

Alliance changes are possible. You cannot rejoin the one you left. But you can join another.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 17 November 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

I thought you couldn't take an alliance token if you already had another, and even if you betray an alliance you will still have one alliance token

nope. thread on it over at BGG

[Imperial Historian]

I'm wrong apparently http://boardgamegeek...o-for-alliances