[twelve]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

I was talking about the hypothetical situation where I survived the lynch and would have attacked you three more times that night. And you lucked out that you should had been hit twice more two nights prior but there was a mistake in resolution.

[Nimander Golit]

Good thing it ended when it did, I was in Australia from last wednesday and ended up with zero internet access.

Good game people.

[Khellendros]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.


This must have been a good game if people are still talking about it. A lot of vengeful thoughts in the air, the Mafia fires have been stoked

[Tattersail_]

17 years I have spent in this asylum. I am waiting for my bald headed friend and we are out of here.







Fringe Season One

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

I was talking about the hypothetical situation where I survived the lynch and would have attacked you three more times that night. And you lucked out that you should had been hit twice more two nights prior but there was a mistake in resolution.

There wasn't a mistake in resolution. What happened was that D'rek used Zap on Path-Shaper

[D'rek]

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

I was talking about the hypothetical situation where I survived the lynch and would have attacked you three more times that night. And you lucked out that you should had been hit twice more two nights prior but there was a mistake in resolution.

Still wouldn't have killed me

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.

Maaaaaaybe

But {a} Uni got lucky finding each other, when both Cult and Aces had an automatically-find-your-allies-(with-100%-certainty) ability, {b} Uni did have harder VCs, {c} it's not that I had a ton of health, I just wasn't attacked much.

I don't remember who, but there was someone who had a day action guard that stopped day and night actions, wasn't there? That with Lasso would have been a good combo for destroying me!

[Messremb]

Don't go forgetting that Azath and I could also do a heal for +3 health, each, independently of our alt so Guard wouldn't have worked courtesy of our C3Peons, rest assured D'rek wasn't dying from NAs any time soon.

I'm wondering about our VCs now - there were 4 Cult and 3 LaRua therefore the assumption that we needed Mud Street because CC and LaRua started the game with 3 alts each was wrong. Maybe it was just because you were OP

[Khellendros]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I don't remember who, but there was someone who had a day action guard that stopped day and night actions, wasn't there? That with Lasso would have been a good combo for destroying me!

I think Ment's Bank Robber had something like that, though admittedly we never discussed the possibility of him guarding you after I Lassoed you, so I don't know if he would have used it or not. Would have been a sensible precaution though.

[Khellendros]

Messremb, on 18 September 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Don't go forgetting that Azath and I could also do a heal for +3 health, each, independently of our alt so Guard wouldn't have worked courtesy of our C3Peons, rest assured D'rek wasn't dying from NAs any time soon.

I'm wondering about our VCs now - there were 4 Cult and 3 LaRua therefore the assumption that we needed Mud Street because CC and LaRua started the game with 3 alts each was wrong. Maybe it was just because you were OP

Lol, "also don't forget that we were all immortal."

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I don't remember who, but there was someone who had a day action guard that stopped day and night actions, wasn't there? That with Lasso would have been a good combo for destroying me!

I think Ment's Bank Robber had something like that, though admittedly we never discussed the possibility of him guarding you after I Lassoed you, so I don't know if he would have used it or not. Would have been a sensible precaution though.

Probably you wouldn't have used it the first time, but when I didn't die you would have then figured to use it the next. So after the Nimander lynch, if there'd been 1 more LaRua in the game and I'd failed to Elect-Trick them dead the next day, then maybe you'd finally have my night abilities blocked from there onwards, though not the Elect-Trick since it resolves at RNVP


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also @twelve - are you still claiming your attacks didn't hit me on some night? Seems to me you attacked me twice on night 4 and I did get hit, got this PM from PS:

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

You lose [1] during the night phase.
You lose [1][1] during the night phase as results of attacks.
You lose 3 Sanity during the Day Phase.

Or is it a different phase?

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.


This must have been a good game if people are still talking about it. A lot of vengeful thoughts in the air, the Mafia fires have been stoked

Yeah tell me about it. Can attack, dole out passive damage, self-heal and guard players. Plus still have actions left over to manipulate the election. I probably had one of the better pure attack roles as I could attack adjacent locations but had to rely soley on my bullets to dole that out which left nothing left for anything else. I would have had to target D'rek 3 straight nights with 3 attacks each to finally kill her and this with her already hurt because of the insane players doling out damage. I probably should have utilized the 5 card stud more especially midgame when it was clear the Uni and Aces were clearly in the lead and keeping my role a secret was less of a priority but live and learn right?

My role could have definately benefited from Shins XP gain each day from Day 1 instead of starting at midgame. Getting additional bullets was key to me being useful. All game I think I doled out 2 points of damage as an attack style player.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.


This must have been a good game if people are still talking about it. A lot of vengeful thoughts in the air, the Mafia fires have been stoked

Yeah tell me about it. Can attack, dole out passive damage, self-heal and guard players. Plus still have actions left over to manipulate the election. I probably had one of the better pure attack roles as I could attack adjacent locations but had to rely soley on my bullets to dole that out which left nothing left for anything else. I would have had to target D'rek 3 straight nights with 3 attacks each to finally kill her and this with her already hurt because of the insane players doling out damage. I probably should have utilized the 5 card stud more especially midgame when it was clear the Uni and Aces were clearly in the lead and keeping my role a secret was less of a priority but live and learn right?

My role could have definately benefited from Shins XP gain each day from Day 1 instead of starting at midgame. Getting additional bullets was key to me being useful. All game I think I doled out 2 points of damage as an attack style player.

You had an ability to put +3 on all your attacking bullet dice though, right? Seems like you wanted to have a lot of different bullet die to afford the extended range and make many attacks, each bossted by +3, and yeah having Shin give you XP and find targets for you would have made you a lot more effective.

[twelve]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I don't remember who, but there was someone who had a day action guard that stopped day and night actions, wasn't there? That with Lasso would have been a good combo for destroying me!

I think Ment's Bank Robber had something like that, though admittedly we never discussed the possibility of him guarding you after I Lassoed you, so I don't know if he would have used it or not. Would have been a sensible precaution though.

Probably you wouldn't have used it the first time, but when I didn't die you would have then figured to use it the next. So after the Nimander lynch, if there'd been 1 more LaRua in the game and I'd failed to Elect-Trick them dead the next day, then maybe you'd finally have my night abilities blocked from there onwards, though not the Elect-Trick since it resolves at RNVP


---

also @twelve - are you still claiming your attacks didn't hit me on some night? Seems to me you attacked me twice on night 4 and I did get hit, got this PM from PS:

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

You lose [1] during the night phase.
You lose [1][1] during the night phase as results of attacks.
You lose 3 Sanity during the Day Phase.

Or is it a different phase?

I attacked you twice, two nights in a row before I was lynched, and the night I was lynched I was going to attack you three times that night.But the very first night I targeted you with attacks PS told me that he messed up and didn't process my NAs even though I brought it up at the beginning of the next day. So to "fix" the mistake he let me use my Final call ability, the one that warns you that you are being targeted for a NA with +3 bullets, for free the next day. So you should had been down two more health bullets than you were. I took a look at your PMs to PS after I died and I don't think you would have died but you definately would have been a lot closer to death and may have been more concerned with replenishing that lost health of yours instead of doing some of your other nastiness. We'll never know now I guess.

[HiddenOne]

My health was 2,1,1 at the end

I focused on making all my buff items from the first

But we absolutely have to play this game setup again

[twelve]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.


This must have been a good game if people are still talking about it. A lot of vengeful thoughts in the air, the Mafia fires have been stoked

Yeah tell me about it. Can attack, dole out passive damage, self-heal and guard players. Plus still have actions left over to manipulate the election. I probably had one of the better pure attack roles as I could attack adjacent locations but had to rely soley on my bullets to dole that out which left nothing left for anything else. I would have had to target D'rek 3 straight nights with 3 attacks each to finally kill her and this with her already hurt because of the insane players doling out damage. I probably should have utilized the 5 card stud more especially midgame when it was clear the Uni and Aces were clearly in the lead and keeping my role a secret was less of a priority but live and learn right?

My role could have definately benefited from Shins XP gain each day from Day 1 instead of starting at midgame. Getting additional bullets was key to me being useful. All game I think I doled out 2 points of damage as an attack style player.

You had an ability to put +3 on all your attacking bullet dice though, right? Seems like you wanted to have a lot of different bullet die to afford the extended range and make many attacks, each bossted by +3, and yeah having Shin give you XP and find targets for you would have made you a lot more effective.

Yeah but attacks in an adjacent location cost 3 bullets so it was a wash. To have any hope that my attacks would actually be effective I had to use that +3 ability. And it cost me a bullet to cast the ability. All it did was gurantee that I hit someone. If they were not on my location anyone with a dodge 1 would have avoided the hit. It was frustrating I needed bullets and lots of them if I had any hope of actually doing damage to anyone. Like I said before the 1 & 1 damage you received was the only damage I doled out all game and I lived to Day 5. That is pretty sorry for a purely offensive role that can attack adjacent locations.

[twelve]

D, on 18 September 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.

Ooooooveeeerrrpowwwwwered.


This must have been a good game if people are still talking about it. A lot of vengeful thoughts in the air, the Mafia fires have been stoked

Yeah tell me about it. Can attack, dole out passive damage, self-heal and guard players. Plus still have actions left over to manipulate the election. I probably had one of the better pure attack roles as I could attack adjacent locations but had to rely soley on my bullets to dole that out which left nothing left for anything else. I would have had to target D'rek 3 straight nights with 3 attacks each to finally kill her and this with her already hurt because of the insane players doling out damage. I probably should have utilized the 5 card stud more especially midgame when it was clear the Uni and Aces were clearly in the lead and keeping my role a secret was less of a priority but live and learn right?

My role could have definately benefited from Shins XP gain each day from Day 1 instead of starting at midgame. Getting additional bullets was key to me being useful. All game I think I doled out 2 points of damage as an attack style player.

You had an ability to put +3 on all your attacking bullet dice though, right? Seems like you wanted to have a lot of different bullet die to afford the extended range and make many attacks, each bossted by +3, and yeah having Shin give you XP and find targets for you would have made you a lot more effective.

Shin getting teamed up with Lio first was a shame. His role was a perfect compliment to my role. I would have been getting more bullets left and right so my attacks would get past most players dodges without the +3 bullet ability.

[twelve]

HiddenOne, on 18 September 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

My health was 2,1,1 at the end

I focused on making all my buff items from the first

But we absolutely have to play this game setup again

I agree. I think we all learned a lot on the setup aspect. I think players will be a lot more effecitve once they get a chance to play this format again. I know (well hope really) I will

[D'rek]

twelve, on 18 September 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 18 September 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

D, on 18 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I don't remember who, but there was someone who had a day action guard that stopped day and night actions, wasn't there? That with Lasso would have been a good combo for destroying me!

I think Ment's Bank Robber had something like that, though admittedly we never discussed the possibility of him guarding you after I Lassoed you, so I don't know if he would have used it or not. Would have been a sensible precaution though.

Probably you wouldn't have used it the first time, but when I didn't die you would have then figured to use it the next. So after the Nimander lynch, if there'd been 1 more LaRua in the game and I'd failed to Elect-Trick them dead the next day, then maybe you'd finally have my night abilities blocked from there onwards, though not the Elect-Trick since it resolves at RNVP


---

also @twelve - are you still claiming your attacks didn't hit me on some night? Seems to me you attacked me twice on night 4 and I did get hit, got this PM from PS:

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

You lose [1] during the night phase.
You lose [1][1] during the night phase as results of attacks.
You lose 3 Sanity during the Day Phase.

Or is it a different phase?

I attacked you twice, two nights in a row before I was lynched, and the night I was lynched I was going to attack you three times that night.But the very first night I targeted you with attacks PS told me that he messed up and didn't process my NAs even though I brought it up at the beginning of the next day. So to "fix" the mistake he let me use my Final call ability, the one that warns you that you are being targeted for a NA with +3 bullets, for free the next day. So you should had been down two more health bullets than you were. I took a look at your PMs to PS after I died and I don't think you would have died but you definately would have been a lot closer to death and may have been more concerned with replenishing that lost health of yours instead of doing some of your other nastiness. We'll never know now I guess.

Oh, ok. Well then I would have had 5 1-pip health dice left after your lynch instead of 7.

Other than insane people, I think you're the only one who actually hit me with anything.

[Peanutbutta]

The fact that you are all still actively discussing it is why it is so painful to remember. Sad day.

[Tapper]

Peanutbutta, on 18 September 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

The fact that you are all still actively discussing it is why it is so painful to remember. Sad day.

Yeah, I am a little surprised (and pleased) by that as well.
I think there will definately be a re-run