[Khellendros]

Grasp, on 11 September 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

Merrid, on 11 September 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

ToD/Ghoul Gulch crossover FTW!!!

That is the best idea ever. Perhaps the victorious University gets extra funding, starts a new crazy project that opens a time-travel/inter-dimensional rift to Madeena?

Yes! And the best thing is, Tapper has all the groundwork here already, he just needs to set it up and mod. Easy!


D'rek, did you know I was in Aces as well? I enjoyed our little conversation where both of us entirely lied through our teeth wlst being all super-friendly

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 11 September 2013 - 02:51 PM

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

twelve, on 11 September 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Merrid, on 11 September 2013 - 08:14 AM, said:

Cast, on 11 September 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

This game proves that D'rek is one of the best mafia players around. Khell your winning streak has come to an end.

I know! And there's still nothing I would have done differently. I'm very proud of the way our team played. Ugh, one more night and D'rek would have gone the way of the dodo

No if you Fucks had actually listened to me and not tried to lynch Cast there was a good chance I would have killed grasp the night I was lynched. That was at least two nights sooner than you would have done it.

Nothing I would have done differently. Nothing at all. La la la la la.

The point was that I knew you weren't in our faction, so the way I saw it, if the lynch did indeed veer off Cast and on to you, then that was even better for my faction.

I love how you ignore the fact that my lynch helped the Uni get one step closer to their victory conditions.

[Mentalist]

The other option would've been to stay the fuck out of busy tiles (Like Mud Street)

I suffered a single Sanity penalty all game--the day I was in Wallace/Mud Street. The rest of the game I was cool as a cucumber.

good game to all. I don't think the no CFs on modkills was a good call, personally--it's a good thing in town v scum, but in a merc game with elimination victory i don't think it's a good idea. I'd have also told the thread that la Rua were eliminated. I wasn't fighting against the Cast lynch all that much largely because I expected University needed at least 2 more people dead before victory. If we knew that LRs were already out, I'd have gone all out accusing Grasp of being University (something I was more or less certain of ever since I spoke with Lio).

Meh, my own fault for assuming mods will tell us when a faction was out. Modkills really screwed things up for us.

I prolly need to look at that role guide (couldn't see the attached file in Meanas alt), but I disagree with the criticism of the way we did lynches by agreeing on thread. it's kind of necessary to say who you were gonna pick/lynch. otherwise, you're just gambling.

ger. well-played. shame on Dem and NG for voting Cast.

[Tattersail_]

I enjoyed the game immensely. I am no good at working things out though, I just had hunches. I tried to steer clear of the off thread communication as much as possible. I think in thread suffers a lot more otherwise.

[Mentalist]

Ganoes Paran, on 11 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

I enjoyed the game immensely. I am no good at working things out though, I just had hunches. I tried to steer clear of the off thread communication as much as possible. I think in thread suffers a lot more otherwise.

normally, I'd agree with you. But this game was designed around off-theread comms (since there were no on-thread reveals), and by ignoring that aspect you've put yourself at a major disadvantage

[Grasp]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

D'rek, did you know I was in Aces as well? I enjoyed our little conversation where both of us entirely lied through our teeth wlst being all super-friendly

You were probably the only person I was still a bit uncertain about. All my info on you came from hearsay and process of elimination, so it was really hard to guess. Your dice and cantrips matched the Hellhunter so I thought it possible you might be that and decided to go with pretending I fully believed that, but I was open to the idea that you were any faction, really. With no LaRua elimination message on-thread I was even considering the possibility you might be the last LaRua, though didn't think it likely.

Of course, I'd naturally lie through my teeth the entire conversation no matter what I believed, unless you jumped on the Red Pill reference and could prove you might be the Alchebiologist. I didn't think that would be very likely either, though

[Tattersail_]

Mentalist, on 11 September 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 11 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

I enjoyed the game immensely. I am no good at working things out though, I just had hunches. I tried to steer clear of the off thread communication as much as possible. I think in thread suffers a lot more otherwise.

normally, I'd agree with you. But this game was designed around off-theread comms (since there were no on-thread reveals), and by ignoring that aspect you've put yourself at a major disadvantage

Well hindsight says you are right, during the game I didn't want to become a target like Bek Okhan

[Khellendros]

Barghast, on 11 September 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

Reckon I've arrived as a Mafia player?

You're kidding right? This was just the first stage of initiation. Wait till we play an actually complicated game And if you're sticking around despite our best efforts we need to come up with a mafia house position for you.

[Azathmaster]

Khellendros, on 12 September 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

Barghast, on 11 September 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

Reckon I've arrived as a Mafia player?

You're kidding right? This was just the first stage of initiation. Wait till we play an actually complicated game And if you're sticking around despite our best efforts we need to come up with a mafia house position for you.

Speaking of that, can i get forum access to Mafia addicts anon? And if y'all mafia members want me, can i join the high house?

[EmperorMagus]

Sorry about my none participation the last couple of days. I was home exactly 1 hour before sleep and I had to eat my only meal of the day at that time ...
Attack roles were way too weak by the way, only one successful NK ...
[1]

[Khellendros]

Azathmaster, on 12 September 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 September 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

Barghast, on 11 September 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

Reckon I've arrived as a Mafia player?

You're kidding right? This was just the first stage of initiation. Wait till we play an actually complicated game And if you're sticking around despite our best efforts we need to come up with a mafia house position for you.

Speaking of that, can i get forum access to Mafia addicts anon? And if y'all mafia members want me, can i join the high house?

Notng's happened in Mafia anon for over a year so you're not missing out on much. For joining the House, just ask an admin like Grief to add you to the group. After that the ritual whipping commences, followed by a romantic date with Tatts, an exam into Mafia mechanics set and delivered by Taps and D'rek, a compulsory session in Mafia decorum given by Venge, and, of course, a solemn blood oath to never ever leave. People have tried, but...well, have you seen or heard from JLV lately? Exactly.


Still need to think of a title for you. Hmmm. It may be the whole PEN thing, but I still think of you as relatively new to the site despite the fact that you've been around for yonks now. Poor Noob of HHM is an insulting enough title I should think

[Gust Hubb]

Hats off to mess and d'rek. I am totally gullible and sentimental. Definitely not made for faction games.

Damn you good liars.!!!!!!

[Peanutbutta]

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM

[twelve]

Peanutbutta, on 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

Well it was all D'rek's fault because of the election manipulations ability. I am still kicking myself for not utilizing my lynch protection ability more often. If I had survived the Cast lynch I had already decided to upgrade my second spade die so I could use that ability on twice a day then use my 5 card stud ability to reset my bullet dice and attack, attack, attack at night. But alas the idiotic Aces helped the Uni lynch me which I felt directly cost them and the Cult the game.

I also have to agree with Mental on the fact that keeping the modkills faction unknown with elimination criteria as a VC was a bad idea.

I can't wait for the next instalment of this format.

[Mentalist]

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Peanutbutta, on 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

Well it was all D'rek's fault because of the election manipulations ability. I am still kicking myself for not utilizing my lynch protection ability more often. If I had survived the Cast lynch I had already decided to upgrade my second spade die so I could use that ability on twice a day then use my 5 card stud ability to reset my bullet dice and attack, attack, attack at night. But alas the idiotic Aces helped the Uni lynch me which I felt directly cost them and the Cult the game.

I also have to agree with Mental on the fact that keeping the modkills faction unknown with elimination criteria as a VC was a bad idea.

I can't wait for the next instalment of this format.

it's precisely BECAUSE we didn't know that LaRua were on the verge of death that I went along with the first Cast lynch.
I tried to stop the second, but South and Cult all voteed with Uni, despite it being bloody obvious they were the ones pushing for the fucked up lynches.

[Messremb]

Mentalist, on 17 September 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Peanutbutta, on 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

Well it was all D'rek's fault because of the election manipulations ability. I am still kicking myself for not utilizing my lynch protection ability more often. If I had survived the Cast lynch I had already decided to upgrade my second spade die so I could use that ability on twice a day then use my 5 card stud ability to reset my bullet dice and attack, attack, attack at night. But alas the idiotic Aces helped the Uni lynch me which I felt directly cost them and the Cult the game.

I also have to agree with Mental on the fact that keeping the modkills faction unknown with elimination criteria as a VC was a bad idea.

I can't wait for the next instalment of this format.

it's precisely BECAUSE we didn't know that LaRua were on the verge of death that I went along with the first Cast lynch.
I tried to stop the second, but South and Cult all voteed with Uni, despite it being bloody obvious they were the ones pushing for the fucked up lynches.

Don't forget that Azath and I had a summoned creature each that could vote with us at will if we so desired. The lynch was going through, regardless. You were dodo-dead

It was quite quite entertaining watching it happen - my case on you was all BS pulled out of the air, I'd logged in, saw I may be getting Judge and had to make a snap call for who I thought most likely needed to die.

I thought of my options you were the one I could justify least badly on thread given that I needed to immediately and was pretty sure who you were, I knew Cast was insane but I knew that D'rek would pull the old switcheroo and that Cast at one point saying he'd put me as Judge meant she'd pass it to me.

It worked pretty well, I was actually pretty impressed at the reset you did - if you hadn't been keeping an eye on your actions it could have been for almost any non-uni role - as I had been keeping an eye on you (and, indeed, on everyone) I knew you could only be one of two roles, one of whom I wanted dead. I wanted to try harder to convince you that you'd survive and was going to in our friendship but Nimanders ability sapping all your other comms put paid to that. Blame Shin for you dying in frustration, rather than thinking you were going to live through it and exploding on finding the truth.

[½]

[twelve]

Mentalist, on 17 September 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Peanutbutta, on 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

Well it was all D'rek's fault because of the election manipulations ability. I am still kicking myself for not utilizing my lynch protection ability more often. If I had survived the Cast lynch I had already decided to upgrade my second spade die so I could use that ability on twice a day then use my 5 card stud ability to reset my bullet dice and attack, attack, attack at night. But alas the idiotic Aces helped the Uni lynch me which I felt directly cost them and the Cult the game.

I also have to agree with Mental on the fact that keeping the modkills faction unknown with elimination criteria as a VC was a bad idea.

I can't wait for the next instalment of this format.

it's precisely BECAUSE we didn't know that LaRua were on the verge of death that I went along with the first Cast lynch.
I tried to stop the second, but South and Cult all voteed with Uni, despite it being bloody obvious they were the ones pushing for the fucked up lynches.

Yeah I was a bit shocked that Shin went along with it when I was screaming that I would be lynched because of it. i think it was his lack of time or wanting things to be over that he went along with it. And I wasn't around to pull him off of it.

[twelve]

Messremb, on 17 September 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 17 September 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Peanutbutta, on 17 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

It hurts dying so early in this game. I made myself a big target with all of the communications, but this game seemed so fun. Such a shame to die...

Well it was all D'rek's fault because of the election manipulations ability. I am still kicking myself for not utilizing my lynch protection ability more often. If I had survived the Cast lynch I had already decided to upgrade my second spade die so I could use that ability on twice a day then use my 5 card stud ability to reset my bullet dice and attack, attack, attack at night. But alas the idiotic Aces helped the Uni lynch me which I felt directly cost them and the Cult the game.

I also have to agree with Mental on the fact that keeping the modkills faction unknown with elimination criteria as a VC was a bad idea.

I can't wait for the next instalment of this format.

it's precisely BECAUSE we didn't know that LaRua were on the verge of death that I went along with the first Cast lynch.
I tried to stop the second, but South and Cult all voteed with Uni, despite it being bloody obvious they were the ones pushing for the fucked up lynches.

Don't forget that Azath and I had a summoned creature each that could vote with us at will if we so desired. The lynch was going through, regardless. You were dodo-dead

It was quite quite entertaining watching it happen - my case on you was all BS pulled out of the air, I'd logged in, saw I may be getting Judge and had to make a snap call for who I thought most likely needed to die.

I thought of my options you were the one I could justify least badly on thread given that I needed to immediately and was pretty sure who you were, I knew Cast was insane but I knew that D'rek would pull the old switcheroo and that Cast at one point saying he'd put me as Judge meant she'd pass it to me.

It worked pretty well, I was actually pretty impressed at the reset you did - if you hadn't been keeping an eye on your actions it could have been for almost any non-uni role - as I had been keeping an eye on you (and, indeed, on everyone) I knew you could only be one of two roles, one of whom I wanted dead. I wanted to try harder to convince you that you'd survive and was going to in our friendship but Nimanders ability sapping all your other comms put paid to that. Blame Shin for you dying in frustration, rather than thinking you were going to live through it and exploding on finding the truth.

[½]

Who are you talking to Mental or me? If me then, my death was partially my fault but the fact I got zero heat before midday stopped me from using my lynch blocking ablility. But after I got the heat I realized if I could get the lynch stalled and I lived to see another day I wasn't going to let a day go by without stopping two players from voting again. Also If I blocked you from voting then your summons couldn't vote either as they depended on you being able to vote. Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone. You guys lynched me at the best time for you worst for my and the Ace's faction.

I'm still blown away that the lynch train didn't get swung back onto either Grasp or Barghast as it was clear they were Uni especially since I proved I wasn't and the votes were not removed by either of you. That was so bleeding obvious it was painful to watch. Especially since you fucks lynched me with 5 hours to go in the day and you did it right when I got on in the morning. Sent me over the edge it took almost a week for me to cool off. I was seriously pissed

[Messremb]

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Messremb, on 17 September 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

Don't forget that Azath and I had a summoned creature each that could vote with us at will if we so desired. The lynch was going through, regardless. You were dodo-dead

It was quite quite entertaining watching it happen - my case on you was all BS pulled out of the air, I'd logged in, saw I may be getting Judge and had to make a snap call for who I thought most likely needed to die.

I thought of my options you were the one I could justify least badly on thread given that I needed to immediately and was pretty sure who you were, I knew Cast was insane but I knew that D'rek would pull the old switcheroo and that Cast at one point saying he'd put me as Judge meant she'd pass it to me.

It worked pretty well, I was actually pretty impressed at the reset you did - if you hadn't been keeping an eye on your actions it could have been for almost any non-uni role - as I had been keeping an eye on you (and, indeed, on everyone) I knew you could only be one of two roles, one of whom I wanted dead. I wanted to try harder to convince you that you'd survive and was going to in our friendship but Nimanders ability sapping all your other comms put paid to that. Blame Shin for you dying in frustration, rather than thinking you were going to live through it and exploding on finding the truth.

[½]

Who are you talking to Mental or me? If me then, my death was partially my fault but the fact I got zero heat before midday stopped me from using my lynch blocking ablility. But after I got the heat I realized if I could get the lynch stalled and I lived to see another day I wasn't going to let a day go by without stopping two players from voting again. Also If I blocked you from voting then your summons couldn't vote either as they depended on you being able to vote. Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone. You guys lynched me at the best time for you worst for my and the Ace's faction.

I'm still blown away that the lynch train didn't get swung back onto either Grasp or Barghast as it was clear they were Uni especially since I proved I wasn't and the votes were not removed by either of you. That was so bleeding obvious it was painful to watch. Especially since you fucks lynched me with 5 hours to go in the day and you did it right when I got on in the morning. Sent me over the edge it took almost a week for me to cool off. I was seriously pissed

Sorry, was talking to you but quoting Ment. The whole no heat before RNVP was deliberate - came out of the blue didn't it. I rather suspected that other abilities would be linked to RNVP too for timing so once I saw my name and knew I had just come on after it was called and had to submit choices I had a clear sweep of who to kill with minimal chance of interference, heaven sent. It was lovely timing to my mind, couldn't have worked better. But then it was fluke and a lucky statement from Tatts saying he'd picked me that set it all up, we just worked with what we had.

Problem with proving you're not Uni was that that meant you could still be any other team that players wanted dead still, with 5-way VCs quite a few want you dead/aren't too bothered if you die. As for 5 hours to go, if it looked like anyone was jumping ship Aranathas was ready to hammer and PS would have had his attention drawn to timestamps. As it happened, people jumped on the chain and we didn't need to stir thread with a temp alt having a vote show up in the counts. Although that would have been great ammo for my anti-summoner-despite-secretly-being-one campaign.

What could have been done differently? Not revealing as a summoner may have helped - you'd inflicted Sanity losses on a few so that did you no good. Nor did claiming the Shadow was a LP. Cut Nimanders secret comms and friend others, throw your role card at them and prove to them how real the danger of a Uni win was becoming? I liked the 5 card stud, that would have come close to swinging me off you had I not been pretty sure I needed you dead. The cost of removing was a big issue though, especially late in the day and may well have resulted in a hung election and people wasting bullets.

At the end of the day, Cult were getting low in the runnings with the dwindling numbers and we just rolled you up like a carpet

I rather figured you were a little annoyed, I figured I may have been top of your list after that, glad you went for D'rek instead. If you're in the next game I'll expect the rabidly slavering monster doing their damnest to kill either of us to be you?

I was quite surprised to see in PMs how many people just didn't seem to get my random judge strategy - by having the risk of a wildcard lynch, the whole being unable to be elected situation was defused to an extent, although how much I haven't looked into - whose ability was it does anyone recall? Of course, what I didn't say was that it was only random until I found a teammate, at which point it defaulted to them.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 17 September 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Plus if I survived then D'rek would have been Dead at night and the election manipulation would have been gone.

Didn't I already cover this? I most certainly would not have been dead after the next night. I probably wouldn't even have been damaged, as Zap resolves before any of Rashan's abilities and I was targetting him with it, so it would have Guarded him and prevented him from doing any of his attacks.

Not sure how much health Rashan had left by the end of the game... it's possible I would have then killed him that night instead.