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Mafia 105: Ghoul Gulch - Game Thread Yes, the game thread.

#2241 User is offline   Meanas 

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

View PostDenul, on 09 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I gained no XP

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Even though you were Mayor?

The plot thickens... AFAIR no one else has claimed that yet, right?

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I feel like I am playing with a bunch of retards. What part of I didn't pick a Judge, I thought I was to be lynched, and the location update by PS did you not GRASP?

Fucking moron.

I acquired number of votes for Mayor which means in my mind I was dead. I didn't die, I am still here. Investing showed that I am indeed insane. So why? It's obvious someone has an ability to change Mayor choice/ Judge Choice. lynch Choice.

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Calm down, we're just trying to figure this whole thing out. I think it's an important disticntion because there's a difference between:

a - you are still elected Mayor (and gain XP), but someone's interference changes your Judge choice

and

b - you are not elected Mayor (and don't gain XP), but are still revealed as Mayor on-thread and the person who interfered picks the Judge.


IMO, until you said you got no XP I would have considered A a lot more likely than B. But now I am also considering B, though with some skepticism since we didn't hear it from the previous people who claimed they're Mayorships were interfered with.

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It seems possible that since you didn't pick a judge candidate, it may have shifted to whoever had the next most votes. Who was that?

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Either me (The guy Cast actually voted for), or Merrid (the guy Bargy wrote Cast voted for and PS parroted Barg's mistake).

I did not have Barg as my judge choice.

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This post has been edited by Meanas: 09 September 2013 - 03:45 PM


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 09 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I gained no XP

(2)


Even though you were Mayor?

The plot thickens... AFAIR no one else has claimed that yet, right?

[4]


I feel like I am playing with a bunch of retards. What part of I didn't pick a Judge, I thought I was to be lynched, and the location update by PS did you not GRASP?

Fucking moron.

I acquired number of votes for Mayor which means in my mind I was dead. I didn't die, I am still here. Investing showed that I am indeed insane. So why? It's obvious someone has an ability to change Mayor choice/ Judge Choice. lynch Choice.

(2)


Calm down, we're just trying to figure this whole thing out. I think it's an important disticntion because there's a difference between:

a - you are still elected Mayor (and gain XP), but someone's interference changes your Judge choice

and

b - you are not elected Mayor (and don't gain XP), but are still revealed as Mayor on-thread and the person who interfered picks the Judge.


IMO, until you said you got no XP I would have considered A a lot more likely than B. But now I am also considering B, though with some skepticism since we didn't hear it from the previous people who claimed they're Mayorships were interfered with.

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It seems possible that since you didn't pick a judge candidate, it may have shifted to whoever had the next most votes. Who was that?

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No that is impossible because an insane person HAS to vote themselves as judge, and then lynch themselves.

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Right, my bad

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#2243 User is offline   Cast 

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM

I'll vote for you again today Meanas, who would you like to see as Judge?

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Day 1- No lynch

Day 2-Lock is elected Mayor, but blocked. No EXP

Day3-Jalan voted Mayor (1EXP)
Grasp Apponted Judge (1EXP)

Day4- Fanderay elected Mayor (1 EXP)
Appoints Barghast (1 EXP)

Night 4- Grasp kills Liosan (2 EXP)

Day5: Cast is elected Mayor (1 EXP)
Appoints Barghast (2 EXP)

currently we have 2 known players with 2 EXP each. The way the math works, both have good chances to be either Ace or Uni.

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So looking at this list then, the biggest question for me is are we looking at two different lynch shenanigan mechanics? Or can the Day 2 pass-over Lock mechanic be the same as the rest?

If it's the same mechanic, that would mean that whoever takes over the lynch needs to have at least one vote for them, possibly even they have to be in second place, and then they got the Mayorship but it appears as the person who did get the most votes.

OR, the mechanic doesn't let the caster become Mayor, but moves the Mayor result to the 2nd-place person, whomever it is, and goes with their Judge choice but reveals the 1st-place Mayor on-thread. I'll have to go back and check, but I don't think this lines up with what the 2nd-place Mayor candidates were claiming their Judge choices would be.

Jalan never said anything on day 4 about not getting his XP. Fanderay the same on day 5. So I'm not sure how to reconcile that with Cast's claim. It seems like the sort of thing that they would let everyone know about, IMO, but I could be wrong.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'll vote for you again today Meanas, who would you like to see as Judge?

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NOT Barg or Grasp, that's for sure.

Aside from that, I'd like to see if we can find any leads to either

1) Vote manipulators

2) University/Aces

if all else fails, my fallback preference would be Grasp/Barg, because they're EXP leaders, and could also be Uni/Aces

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Day 1- No lynch

Day 2-Lock is elected Mayor, but blocked. No EXP

Day3-Jalan voted Mayor (1EXP)
Grasp Apponted Judge (1EXP)

Day4- Fanderay elected Mayor (1 EXP)
Appoints Barghast (1 EXP)

Night 4- Grasp kills Liosan (2 EXP)

Day5: Cast is elected Mayor (1 EXP)
Appoints Barghast (2 EXP)

currently we have 2 known players with 2 EXP each. The way the math works, both have good chances to be either Ace or Uni.

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So looking at this list then, the biggest question for me is are we looking at two different lynch shenanigan mechanics? Or can the Day 2 pass-over Lock mechanic be the same as the rest?

If it's the same mechanic, that would mean that whoever takes over the lynch needs to have at least one vote for them, possibly even they have to be in second place, and then they got the Mayorship but it appears as the person who did get the most votes.

OR, the mechanic doesn't let the caster become Mayor, but moves the Mayor result to the 2nd-place person, whomever it is, and goes with their Judge choice but reveals the 1st-place Mayor on-thread. I'll have to go back and check, but I don't think this lines up with what the 2nd-place Mayor candidates were claiming their Judge choices would be.

Jalan never said anything on day 4 about not getting his XP. Fanderay the same on day 5. So I'm not sure how to reconcile that with Cast's claim. It seems like the sort of thing that they would let everyone know about, IMO, but I could be wrong.

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Keep in mind that on Day 2, we were expressly told that Lok was targetted by an ability that prevented his election. That was the only time that happened.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM

Hello all.

I would like to start the day making friends. :(

Grasp, you were hardly all that great in bed yourself. I thought "wanted" would equal "naughty" and "rawr", but I was wrong.

Friendship with Barghast

Because I he seems like he'll sleep with anyone.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Hello all.

I would like to start the day making friends. :(

Grasp, you were hardly all that great in bed yourself. I thought "wanted" would equal "naughty" and "rawr", but I was wrong.

Friendship with Barghast

Because I he seems like he'll sleep with anyone.

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methinks someone ought to have finished reading up..
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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:10 PM

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'll vote for you again today Meanas, who would you like to see as Judge?

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NOT Barg or Grasp, that's for sure.

Aside from that, I'd like to see if we can find any leads to either

1) Vote manipulators

2) University/Aces

if all else fails, my fallback preference would be Grasp/Barg, because they're EXP leaders, and could also be Uni/Aces

[2]


If only Cast hadn't Rivalried me so fast... you'd love me Meanas, you'd have really loved me!

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Hello all.

I would like to start the day making friends. :(

Grasp, you were hardly all that great in bed yourself. I thought "wanted" would equal "naughty" and "rawr", but I was wrong.

Friendship with Barghast

Because I he seems like he'll sleep with anyone.

[1]


methinks someone ought to have finished reading up..
[2]


Whaddayamean?

He's still spouting nonsense, but he's not dead or anything. I'm just hoping he spouts less nonsense OFF thread. :D

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'll vote for you again today Meanas, who would you like to see as Judge?

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NOT Barg or Grasp, that's for sure.

Aside from that, I'd like to see if we can find any leads to either

1) Vote manipulators

2) University/Aces

if all else fails, my fallback preference would be Grasp/Barg, because they're EXP leaders, and could also be Uni/Aces

[2]


If only Cast hadn't Rivalried me so fast... you'd love me Meanas, you'd have really loved me!

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You could always telegram me, Wolf-Boy.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:16 PM

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 09 September 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

proving Cast to be something special - someone who is both insane and able to be elected without suiciding. Now I'm actually worried about him.


That sounds... complex. I could see it being in the game, but it just doesn't have the right feel to me.

Could it be that Cast was just not insane during the day yesterday, but then went insane (again?) at night and then invested?

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It could be this. I think it is even simple than that though. I think someone switched the Judge. So Cast was still elected mayor, but someone (perhaps even Cast themselves) used an ability to pick someone else's Judge choice, and at the same time saves Cast.

Now, my Judge choice yesterday was Barghast. However, I did not receive any XP, so I don't think it was my choice which was selected.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Hello all.

I would like to start the day making friends. :(

Grasp, you were hardly all that great in bed yourself. I thought "wanted" would equal "naughty" and "rawr", but I was wrong.

Friendship with Barghast

Because I he seems like he'll sleep with anyone.

[1]


methinks someone ought to have finished reading up..
[2]


Whaddayamean?

He's still spouting nonsense, but he's not dead or anything. I'm just hoping he spouts less nonsense OFF thread. :D

[1]


I mean Ole' Mad Cast threatened to rivalry people opening up conversations off-thread.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

I'm here and I liked what Cast did to Grasp ( because I hate Grasp and I wish his farts ignited inside his body)
But I think it would be simply too convenient if what Cast claims was true. He could have simply not invested ...

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:20 PM

All y'all can allow yerselves to be bullied by ol' cast.

He can rivalry all he wants, he's just two cherry wood slivers short of Cast(rated).

Yee haw!

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:21 PM

Fanderay seemed pretty certain that they would die if Cast was elected Mayor yesterday. I wonder...could Fanderay have somehow known that the Judge choice would go to Barghast if Cast was elected? What was Fanderay - the Acquisition Agent? Hmm, don't see an immediate link there.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Hello all.

I would like to start the day making friends. :(

Grasp, you were hardly all that great in bed yourself. I thought "wanted" would equal "naughty" and "rawr", but I was wrong.

Friendship with Barghast

Because I he seems like he'll sleep with anyone.

[1]


methinks someone ought to have finished reading up..
[2]


Whaddayamean?

He's still spouting nonsense, but he's not dead or anything. I'm just hoping he spouts less nonsense OFF thread. :D

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It was worth a shot. :)

Though you may note that I never had Friendship with Fanderay all game. So you may want to ask yourself where the real leaks were. Lio was insane after all, maybe I did you a big favour there!

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:26 PM

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 09 September 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 09 September 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 09 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'll vote for you again today Meanas, who would you like to see as Judge?

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NOT Barg or Grasp, that's for sure.

Aside from that, I'd like to see if we can find any leads to either

1) Vote manipulators

2) University/Aces

if all else fails, my fallback preference would be Grasp/Barg, because they're EXP leaders, and could also be Uni/Aces

[2]


If only Cast hadn't Rivalried me so fast... you'd love me Meanas, you'd have really loved me!

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You could always telegram me, Wolf-Boy.

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But I spent one of those die on getting the hearts to befriend, and I need the other die for something else! :(

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:27 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 09 September 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

All y'all can allow yerselves to be bullied by ol' cast.

He can rivalry all he wants, he's just two cherry wood slivers short of Cast(rated).

Yee haw!

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Best RP of the game.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:27 PM

I'm headed out for lunch, be back in a little while.

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