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Mafia 105: Ghoul Gulch - Game Thread Yes, the game thread.

#1581 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostGrasp, on 30 August 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 14 August 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

10. Phases

We work with a 48 hour day phase, and an 8 hour night phase.

A. The day phase

The Day Phase starts with all players resetting a total number of dice equal to their Speed pips in Bullets, Aim, Dodge and Luck, and resetting a total number of dice equal to their Attunement pips in Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts and Spades, except for day 1, when all dice are automatically reset.

During the day phase, each player post must be ended with the text: Bullets [#] where [#] is the number of unused pips on the Bullet die they use this phase for voting/removing vote/ paying for Cantrips.

Midway through the Day Phase, Rien Ne Va Plus will be posted. This means:
1) no more Wagers may be initiated;
2) any abilities that must be submitted before Wagers are processed must be in;
3) everyone must have selected their Judge in case they are selected as Mayor;
4) the mods will process all submitted Wagers.

Move Phase 1
After the Day Phase (at the end of which the lynch happens), a Move Phase is started. Players may move freely from one Location to an adjacent Location at no cost. Orders for the Move phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.


Night Phase
The Night phase is an administration phase for the Mods, as usual. Orders for the Night phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.

Move Phase 2
After the Night phase, another Move phase happens. Players may move freely from one Location to an adjacent Location at no cost. Orders for the Move phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.


Turquoise colouring mine. I take it from the turquoise text that bullets in posts is only a day thing.



Sounds like something else we need clarification on by the mods.

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#1582 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

I need to send my most sincere apologies out to Lioson.

I only selected you as a lynch option as I thought it would get enough people behind Jalan for mayor that I could get Cast lynched. The dirty side of compromise. I have no ill will towards you and would be willing to work with you to eliminate Jalan in either a mayoral duo or some other sort of endevor.

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Apology accepted. Feel free to establish communications with me :)

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#1583 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostGrasp, on 30 August 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 14 August 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

10. Phases

We work with a 48 hour day phase, and an 8 hour night phase.

A. The day phase

The Day Phase starts with all players resetting a total number of dice equal to their Speed pips in Bullets, Aim, Dodge and Luck, and resetting a total number of dice equal to their Attunement pips in Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts and Spades, except for day 1, when all dice are automatically reset.

During the day phase, each player post must be ended with the text: Bullets [#] where [#] is the number of unused pips on the Bullet die they use this phase for voting/removing vote/ paying for Cantrips.

Midway through the Day Phase, Rien Ne Va Plus will be posted. This means:
1) no more Wagers may be initiated;
2) any abilities that must be submitted before Wagers are processed must be in;
3) everyone must have selected their Judge in case they are selected as Mayor;
4) the mods will process all submitted Wagers.

Move Phase 1
After the Day Phase (at the end of which the lynch happens), a Move Phase is started. Players may move freely from one Location to an adjacent Location at no cost. Orders for the Move phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.


Night Phase
The Night phase is an administration phase for the Mods, as usual. Orders for the Night phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.

Move Phase 2
After the Night phase, another Move phase happens. Players may move freely from one Location to an adjacent Location at no cost. Orders for the Move phase must be submitted before the end of the Day phase.


Turquoise colouring mine. I take it from the turquoise text that bullets in posts is only a day thing.



There's nothing there that specifically says it's not necessary at night though. I think Tapper should clear things up for us.

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#1585 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

As I said, things didn't work out the way I expected them to, and I can't say that I'm surprised to see you angry at me. It's why you were supposed to die.

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Lucky me then.

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Yeah, and unlucky me. Whoever did this did a good job. So go ahead, lynch me, I expect no less, but keep in mind that there is definitely someone out there that can fuck with Judge choice.

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Yeah and my bet is either Liosan or Cast.

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Now now, don't turn on me shortly following an apology! It kind of sours the warm feelings of forgiveness. :)

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#1586 User is offline   Jalan 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

I need to send my most sincere apologies out to Lioson.

I only selected you as a lynch option as I thought it would get enough people behind Jalan for mayor that I could get Cast lynched. The dirty side of compromise. I have no ill will towards you and would be willing to work with you to eliminate Jalan in either a mayoral duo or some other sort of endevor.

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Apology accepted. Feel free to establish communications with me :)

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Alas I am unable to do so at this time being night and all.

Maybe whenever we get a resolution we can reach out to one another.

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#1588 User is offline   Fanderay 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:52 PM

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

As I said, things didn't work out the way I expected them to, and I can't say that I'm surprised to see you angry at me. It's why you were supposed to die.

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Lucky me then.

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Yeah, and unlucky me. Whoever did this did a good job. So go ahead, lynch me, I expect no less, but keep in mind that there is definitely someone out there that can fuck with Judge choice.

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Yeah and my bet is either Liosan or Cast.

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Now now, don't turn on me shortly following an apology! It kind of sours the warm feelings of forgiveness. :)

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For the record my personal feeling is that it was Cast not you. I should have been more clear in that post.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

As I said, things didn't work out the way I expected them to, and I can't say that I'm surprised to see you angry at me. It's why you were supposed to die.

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Lucky me then.

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Yeah, and unlucky me. Whoever did this did a good job. So go ahead, lynch me, I expect no less, but keep in mind that there is definitely someone out there that can fuck with Judge choice.

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Yeah and my bet is either Liosan or Cast.

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Now now, don't turn on me shortly following an apology! It kind of sours the warm feelings of forgiveness. :)

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For the record my personal feeling is that it was Cast not you. I should have been more clear in that post.

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I highly doubt it was Cast.

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#1590 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

I need to send my most sincere apologies out to Lioson.

I only selected you as a lynch option as I thought it would get enough people behind Jalan for mayor that I could get Cast lynched. The dirty side of compromise. I have no ill will towards you and would be willing to work with you to eliminate Jalan in either a mayoral duo or some other sort of endevor.

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Apology accepted. Feel free to establish communications with me :)

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Alas I am unable to do so at this time being night and all.

Maybe whenever we get a resolution we can reach out to one another.

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Good with me, though I'm considering investing in one friendship with my own moolah. But the same terms given to bargy apply to you as well.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

I need to send my most sincere apologies out to Lioson.

I only selected you as a lynch option as I thought it would get enough people behind Jalan for mayor that I could get Cast lynched. The dirty side of compromise. I have no ill will towards you and would be willing to work with you to eliminate Jalan in either a mayoral duo or some other sort of endevor.

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Apology accepted. Feel free to establish communications with me :)

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Alas I am unable to do so at this time being night and all.

Maybe whenever we get a resolution we can reach out to one another.

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Good with me, though I'm considering investing in one friendship with my own moolah. But the same terms given to bargy apply to you as well.

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You're turning into the new Bek and we know what happened to him - conspiring to deflect an election!

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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........Because I don't want to have to use my precious resources to kill you when everyone else wants to help me do it. Plus the fact I don't know where you are at so there is no gurantee that if I did attack you I would even hit you or if I did hit you you wouldn't dodge or have better luck than my aim.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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........Because I don't want to have to use my precious resources to kill you when everyone else wants to help me do it. Plus the fact I don't know where you are at so there is no gurantee that if I did attack you I would even hit you or if I did hit you you wouldn't dodge or have better luck than my aim.

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So you'll waste a lynch instead, yeah? I'm perhaps one of the smallest threats on thread right now given no one is bound to trust me. Why not try to dig out the person who screwed with my Judge choice? I'd say that person's a heck of a lot more dangerous.

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EDIT: For some reason my message went inside the quote...

This post has been edited by Jalan: 30 August 2013 - 03:58 PM


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:02 PM

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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because NAs are likely to be a supremely inefficient way of killing someone

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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........Because I don't want to have to use my precious resources to kill you when everyone else wants to help me do it. Plus the fact I don't know where you are at so there is no gurantee that if I did attack you I would even hit you or if I did hit you you wouldn't dodge or have better luck than my aim.

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So you'll waste a lynch instead, yeah? I'm perhaps one of the smallest threats on thread right now given no one is bound to trust me. Why not try to dig out the person who screwed with my Judge choice? I'd say that person's a heck of a lot more dangerous.

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EDIT: For some reason my message went inside the quote...


I have no way of doing that. I've already stated who I thought it was but Barghast claims that he highly doubts that it was him. We are still at night so we have time. You may well weasel out of being lynched.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:05 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I have no way of doing that. I've already stated who I thought it was but Barghast claims that he highly doubts that it was him. We are still at night so we have time. You may well weasel out of being lynched.

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Convo me?

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:07 PM

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 30 August 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

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View PostGrasp, on 30 August 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Just checking in from my phone during breakfast, will be on properly later.

I have no idea why jalan picked me as judge - haven't had comms or any sort of special relation with him all game so I'm a weird choice of it, too.

I had run on hanas, rash and hentos but by rnvp time it was clear no mayor with votes was gonna pick me so I didn't much care who I put down as lynch choices, didn't think there was any odds of them happening. I can confirm those 3 were indeed my lynch votes though - they were my 3 most likely larua suspects.


Well at least someone is forthright
I look forward to Jalan's comment

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Me too. If he was trying to use me as a cat's paw to lynch people he didn't run his campaign on, well then it makes me feel warm and fuzzy to have put in different choices and ruined it for him.

He'll probably just deny the whole thing of course.

I wonder how he thought he'd get away with it though? We haven't had any successful elections until now. Is it possible jalan thought the judge and/or mayor results wouldn't be posted by PS on-thread?


Bullets People Bullets.

And why was the Judge canidate listed. I thought that was suppose to be kept secret.

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I was definitely checking that out, cause I was certain the Judge's name would not be published, so that would have made my plan to lie to everyone fall through as well. There's nothing in the OP that says one way or the other. It says you can lie about your Judge choice, and I think we all took that to mean that the Judge would not be revealed, so it could be kept secret. It's a shame, I feel like it should have been made more clear that the Judge's name would be published. It has completely screwed me, and would have even if someone hadn't fucked with my Judge choice.

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Where did you guys put all the picture of the crying babies, need one in here :)

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostMeanas, on 30 August 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 30 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Umm, that was a crazy end to day. But Jalan's admission that he was going to double cross us makes me not trust him. Since if he was thrown under the bus, we really have no idea who it could be. Because he's proved to be a backstabber, and due to the whole situation, he seems to be the best target.

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Well, I understand that everyone wants to get rid of me. But why waste a lynch on me? Both Fanderay and Liosan now want me dead, and there's no way that anyone's gonna vote me Mayor or Judge going forward, so why not use your lynch usefully instead of getting rid of someone that will draw at least 2 other people's Night Actions? It just seems like a stupid waste of a lynch to me.

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because NAs are likely to be a supremely inefficient way of killing someone


Exactly. I don't want to waste abilities to kill when a lynch seens more likeky. If you triplecrossed us, then I don't expect you'll be able to manipulate the lynch, and If you were set up, then whoever did it probably won't save you.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostBarghast, on 30 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I have no way of doing that. I've already stated who I thought it was but Barghast claims that he highly doubts that it was him. We are still at night so we have time. You may well weasel out of being lynched.

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Convo me?

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I can't right now and I have no idea when night will be resolved so I don't want to waste the action even if I could afford it.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 30 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 30 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I have no way of doing that. I've already stated who I thought it was but Barghast claims that he highly doubts that it was him. We are still at night so we have time. You may well weasel out of being lynched.

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Convo me?

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I can't right now and I have no idea when night will be resolved so I don't want to waste the action even if I could afford it.

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I meant come Day :)

I'm off out for the day now, I'll find out the results of Day/Night hopefully Saturday and might be able to do some limited posting.

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