[Barghast]

Cast, on 27 August 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

Vote Lock

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He should have around 6 or 7 votes yes?

That takes us to 6.

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would like to reiterate that calling out low posters in a faction game is absurd. Its not like I'm THE KILLER trying to hide in a gaggle of low posters, I'm a player, with one of a known selection of roles, who is a little bit lost and not desiring to advertise it on thread. Barghast has been very helpful with his breakdowns for getting my head around things and my PS questions thread is nearly 4 pages long. But I'm still not confident in my assessment of the thread stacking up with anyone else's. It'd be nice to know why the fuck that makes me a target.

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At least 3/4 of the field are totally lost, don't worry. I'd have voted for either chain really - I have nothing on any of the alts named as lynches, just when you have one that has already had investment in it, after a day when we came nowhere near to electing someone, I wanted a clear shot at defusing the Judge. Making the breakdowns helps me get my head round it too and once I've gone to the effort of doing it I have no real problem with sharing it with people because I know there will be others more confused than I am. My PM thread with PS is 4 pages and I've got another that PS dropped that was the best part of a page too. I may however get cagey with information if I see a gain in doing so

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[Grasp]

Meanas, on 27 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?

I'm cautious post-changes. because i'm both unsure I want to see Fanderay gone, and I'm not sure that Lock's choice wasn't affected by his convo with Hentos yesterday.

[2]

I'm not trying to stall the lynch, but I'm not as confident in our new choices as I was in the earlier ones. I'd much rather see you as judge.

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

[Hentos Ilm]

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would like to reiterate that calling out low posters in a faction game is absurd. Its not like I'm THE KILLER trying to hide in a gaggle of low posters, I'm a player, with one of a known selection of roles, who is a little bit lost and not desiring to advertise it on thread. Barghast has been very helpful with his breakdowns for getting my head around things and my PS questions thread is nearly 4 pages long. But I'm still not confident in my assessment of the thread stacking up with anyone else's. It'd be nice to know why the fuck that makes me a target.

[0]

Because in a game like this I can look at all of Barghast's posts and his interactions with other players and gradually get a sense of what sort of role he might be and what other players he might be allied with. I can't do that with a player who has 5 posts. But at the same time that player with only 5 posts could in fact be a dominant role that needs to be destroyed and is playing the hell out of the game behind the scenes. He could, in fact, be low-posting in order to avoid attention because he is such a potent role.

As always, content or quantity is still the main factor. Even if you don't post a lot, you can still make lots of good commentary on-thread and have interactions with other players. I think you're doing okay on that front. Someone like Hanas though is obviously not making any effort to interact in the game-thread, while obviously playing the game off-thread. It could be that he's the worst role in the game, or that he's on my team, but since he doesn't put any signs on-thread it's not a risk most players are willing to take.

[2]

It sounds like you're saying you have, or you expect others to have, the identity of at least one other member of their faction. Since its looking increasingly like I won't be around much longer I'll acknowledge that I'm completely in the dark. And I'm consequently suspicious of anyone who claims to have off-thread comms not initiated by cantrip.
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[Barghast]

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

Hell, I might make a run based on my principle of not telling anyone who I've put down as either Judge or Lynchee, until 30sec after timeout when I surprise my Judge by asking him why he picked <dead alt>

[0]

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

Hell, I might make a run based on my principle of not telling anyone who I've put down as either Judge or Lynchee, until 30sec after timeout when I surprise my Judge by asking him why he picked <dead alt>

[0]

Or, indeed, find myself lynched.

[0]

[Fanderay]

Fuck!!!!

I just don't have time to get properly caught up. Busy time at work. But when I do I would like to seriously look at the relationships between a lot of these players that are all so chummy with each other. That is probably why I'm being considered for a lynch because I'm a risk to their off thread alliance everyone has made.

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[Denul]

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 27 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?

I'm cautious post-changes. because i'm both unsure I want to see Fanderay gone, and I'm not sure that Lock's choice wasn't affected by his convo with Hentos yesterday.

[2]

I'm not trying to stall the lynch, but I'm not as confident in our new choices as I was in the earlier ones. I'd much rather see you as judge.

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

Depending on what the cf's show, I may run tomorrow based on connection between the lynch targets (mostly fanderay, because hentos really hasn't contributed much).

[0]

[Merrid]

I have no problems whatsoever with the current lynch choices (if they are still Fanderay and Hentos), as I know nothing about either of them and do very much think a lynch is imperative today, but I will wait until RNVP is posted (which should have been hours ago, no?) before voting.

[3]

[Hentos Ilm]

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 27 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?

I'm cautious post-changes. because i'm both unsure I want to see Fanderay gone, and I'm not sure that Lock's choice wasn't affected by his convo with Hentos yesterday.

[2]

I'm not trying to stall the lynch, but I'm not as confident in our new choices as I was in the earlier ones. I'd much rather see you as judge.

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

Depending on what the cf's show, I may run tomorrow based on connection between the lynch targets (mostly fanderay, because hentos really hasn't contributed much).

[0]

Not much to contribute to 19 pages of mechanic discussion...
[0]

[Merrid]

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

On the slim chance that I'm elected judge my Lynch submissions are Hanas and Merrid. Hanas because more people hate him than even me and Merrid because of just about everything that happened day 1.
vote Lock

Edit: [1]

Mmm. What is this 'just about everything', pray tell? Trying to make a deal to get elected to one of the positions, much like others are doing today, is it? Just because people keep repeating the same idiocy doesn't make it true. But hell, maybe I should try that too. From now on, I will end all posts in a Cato-like manner with:

Furthermore, I believe that Hentos Ilm is suspicious because of all the things that went down the other day and should be lynched.

[3]

[Grasp]

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would like to reiterate that calling out low posters in a faction game is absurd. Its not like I'm THE KILLER trying to hide in a gaggle of low posters, I'm a player, with one of a known selection of roles, who is a little bit lost and not desiring to advertise it on thread. Barghast has been very helpful with his breakdowns for getting my head around things and my PS questions thread is nearly 4 pages long. But I'm still not confident in my assessment of the thread stacking up with anyone else's. It'd be nice to know why the fuck that makes me a target.

[0]

Because in a game like this I can look at all of Barghast's posts and his interactions with other players and gradually get a sense of what sort of role he might be and what other players he might be allied with. I can't do that with a player who has 5 posts. But at the same time that player with only 5 posts could in fact be a dominant role that needs to be destroyed and is playing the hell out of the game behind the scenes. He could, in fact, be low-posting in order to avoid attention because he is such a potent role.

As always, content or quantity is still the main factor. Even if you don't post a lot, you can still make lots of good commentary on-thread and have interactions with other players. I think you're doing okay on that front. Someone like Hanas though is obviously not making any effort to interact in the game-thread, while obviously playing the game off-thread. It could be that he's the worst role in the game, or that he's on my team, but since he doesn't put any signs on-thread it's not a risk most players are willing to take.

[2]

It sounds like you're saying you have, or you expect others to have, the identity of at least one other member of their faction. Since its looking increasingly like I won't be around much longer I'll acknowledge that I'm completely in the dark. And I'm consequently suspicious of anyone who claims to have off-thread comms not initiated by cantrip.
[0]

No, I mean the opposite. In faction games where you know someone on your team, be it leader, follower or partners, the tendency is for everyone to play really cagey and as soon as any lynch starts to build everyone goes "Welp he's not my partner/leader/etc" and piles on. Then from the CF we probably go into culture hunt mode.

But this game is, I believe, more like ToD where no one knows anyone by default, and that's why we need and use the game thread to try and suss out who is who (granted, I think ToD was easier for that, since there were more concrete faction styles and locations to talk about). Conversely then, someone who ignores the game thread is scary because it implies they either can find their enemies or allies another way, or else that they have Dreadfather-like abilities that make them feel impugnity for the thread.

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[Path-Shaper]

The Wager at Dead Dane's Deed is set to Russian Roulette.

[Grasp]

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

The Wager at Dead Dane's Deed is set to Russian Roulette.

And now we know how Lio plans to hurt Jalan before the Move Phase.

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[Path-Shaper]

And Rien Ne Va Plus.

I am having a tough time at work, so the delay is until I came home
The day will still run for 24 hours from now, the extra time is a bit of a gift to you guys, even though it most likely puts Night Resolution back by a long, long shot.

I have now browsed through all PMs that are not off-thread comms or voting PMs and I can confidently say I have processed everything that ought to be processed at this time.

[Denul]

Hentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 27 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?

I'm cautious post-changes. because i'm both unsure I want to see Fanderay gone, and I'm not sure that Lock's choice wasn't affected by his convo with Hentos yesterday.

[2]

I'm not trying to stall the lynch, but I'm not as confident in our new choices as I was in the earlier ones. I'd much rather see you as judge.

I don't disagree, but I don't think anyone will make any headway on that today (sheesh, since when is 20 hours left not a lot of time in a mafia game?! Bullets, electoral system, yeah yeah I know). I think I'll try and do a mayoral run tomorrow on my own principles of having a few choices established early on and keeping to them. I think I've got a fairly good idea of how to do it efficiently. But for today I think we'll just have to go with Lock or else face 3 lynch targets tomorrow

[2]

Depending on what the cf's show, I may run tomorrow based on connection between the lynch targets (mostly fanderay, because hentos really hasn't contributed much).

[0]

Not much to contribute to 19 pages of mechanic discussion...
[0]

.... There was discussion yesterday about all the mayoral stuff, today there has been a lot too. That's not mechanic discussion. It's not much different from normal deliberations for lynches. And since I've seen multiple people contributing a lot to "mechanic discussion", there must be some thoughts to contribute both from you, and as has been shown, from others.

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[Jalan]

Well, in the interest of actually electing a Mayor today...



vote Lock



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[Meanas]

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

Well, in the interest of actually electing a Mayor today...



vote Lock



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L-3, I believe

[2]

[Ultama]

Vote Lock

As it has been pointed out many times, we need an election today and this is currently the best and only option. I don't really see the point in a different candidate as that just splits votes.

Or we could not elect a mayor so Fanderay can ask the same question another 5 times tomorrow....(/sarcasm)

[2]

[Grasp]

Oh yeah, Ultama is playing!

I forgot all about you How's it going?

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[Meanas]

I don't see this going any other way. might as well speed it up:

vote Lock

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