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Mafia 105: Ghoul Gulch - Game Thread Yes, the game thread.

#741 User is offline   Lock 

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:57 PM

View PostHentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

Bedtime for me too!

I think the votes are at 2 for Lock and none others right now? And we're still looking at possible alternatives to Hanas and Demelain for Meanas to be Judge of. I'd suggest looking at Nimander and Hentos - both seem pretty low-posting and fairly low-content, and the fact that they both have been on but haven't even really said if they would vote, let alone put down a vote since they probably won't be back online again, leaves me pretty suspicious of 'em and could make them good alternate target choices.

Will follow-up on that tomorrow if no one else does.

Night!

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Wow, everyone hating on me for some reason. Because I'm quiet? In a faction game? That's really ridiculous. Anyway, after talking with Lock I trust him to try not to get me lynched today. So he gets my vote. On the slim chance that I'm elected judge my Lynch submissions are Hanas and Merrid. Hanas because more people hate him than even me and Merrid because of just about everything that happened day 1.
vote Lock

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Hentos. Read the latest messages I sent. You left without telling me your lynch choices, and without voting like you said. I think it's fair to make you aware that I put in a judge choice for Cast. I thought I had more time, but I was told that choices had to be in, so on the spot, I had to go with Cast, based on simple math. Cast has now confirmed that he has chosen you and Fanderay to be lynched. So unless he's lying, you shouldn't vote for me.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostLock, on 27 August 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

Bedtime for me too!

I think the votes are at 2 for Lock and none others right now? And we're still looking at possible alternatives to Hanas and Demelain for Meanas to be Judge of. I'd suggest looking at Nimander and Hentos - both seem pretty low-posting and fairly low-content, and the fact that they both have been on but haven't even really said if they would vote, let alone put down a vote since they probably won't be back online again, leaves me pretty suspicious of 'em and could make them good alternate target choices.

Will follow-up on that tomorrow if no one else does.

Night!

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This is what confused me, Grasp. I thought you were saying you were ok with these alternatives. I wouldn't have considered without this post. I didn't pull Hentos and Fanderay out of thin air. I just figured that these were ok alternatives for you, and with Cast, Nimander, and Demelain all agreeing with Hentos, it felt like the best choice.

My choices were
You(Grasp) -> Hanas and Demelain
Cast -> Hentos and Fanderay
Nimander -> Hentos or Hanas and Fanderay
Demelain -> Merrid and Hentos or Hanas

Meanas didn't want Merrid, so didn't go with Demelain. Nimander mentioned 3 choices, and Cast specified two. I felt Cast would have been ok with you and Meanas, as well as be able to get new votes.

I didn't mean to come across as going back on my word. Much apologies.

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Short answer is

looking at != automatically want to lynch


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#743 User is offline   Hentos Ilm 

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

View PostCast, on 27 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Wow, maybe because you are quiet and do not read up.

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Maybe you're retarded and don't think of a TMDI9000 game as something that is going to take place largely behind the scenes?

Edit: [2] and a superflous quote

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

So now what, you change to another judge because Hentos voted for you (RNVP still hasn't been called)?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:05 PM

View PostLock, on 27 August 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

View PostHentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

Bedtime for me too!

I think the votes are at 2 for Lock and none others right now? And we're still looking at possible alternatives to Hanas and Demelain for Meanas to be Judge of. I'd suggest looking at Nimander and Hentos - both seem pretty low-posting and fairly low-content, and the fact that they both have been on but haven't even really said if they would vote, let alone put down a vote since they probably won't be back online again, leaves me pretty suspicious of 'em and could make them good alternate target choices.

Will follow-up on that tomorrow if no one else does.

Night!

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Wow, everyone hating on me for some reason. Because I'm quiet? In a faction game? That's really ridiculous. Anyway, after talking with Lock I trust him to try not to get me lynched today. So he gets my vote. On the slim chance that I'm elected judge my Lynch submissions are Hanas and Merrid. Hanas because more people hate him than even me and Merrid because of just about everything that happened day 1.
vote Lock

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Hentos. Read the latest messages I sent. You left without telling me your lynch choices, and without voting like you said. I think it's fair to make you aware that I put in a judge choice for Cast. I thought I had more time, but I was told that choices had to be in, so on the spot, I had to go with Cast, based on simple math. Cast has now confirmed that he has chosen you and Fanderay to be lynched. So unless he's lying, you shouldn't vote for me.

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Sigh. This is why you don't mafia tired. Either way, unlike some people I don't waffle about and until RNVP is posted and there's confirmation that a vote for you is a vote for my neck I'll leave it where it is.
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:06 PM

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

So now what, you change to another judge because Hentos voted for you (RNVP still hasn't been called)?


Eh? I haven't changed choices at all. I had yet to.submit. I thought I had more time. If you look back, you'll see a Barghast post clarifying things. I submitted Cast when PS called for votes to be in. All night, I only considered you and Cast. I tried to pick the best choice.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:07 PM

I'm open to either lynch, only problem is I actually can't vote... So I'll give both trains my verbal support, but my vote, I'm afraid, can't be laid on anyone...

Both are interesting choices, both with a low contributor and a higher contributor as the targets. However, I'd prefer lock as mayor, because of the whole fanderay merrid stuff with me yesterday. This really won't have much effect on the game, but, you know, putting my opinions out there.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:09 PM

Bah, I hate you all!

remove vote

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:10 PM

View PostLock, on 27 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

So now what, you change to another judge because Hentos voted for you (RNVP still hasn't been called)?


Eh? I haven't changed choices at all. I had yet to.submit. I thought I had more time. If you look back, you'll see a Barghast post clarifying things. I submitted Cast when PS called for votes to be in. All night, I only considered you and Cast. I tried to pick the best choice.

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Yeah but you were also talking earlier about this whole not lynching people who vote for you policy...

Whatever, I don't know any of the other players and it's not my head on the chopping block so I'm fine with it. But in future days I'd prefer we have a more concrete set of options setup earlier instead of adding new plans halfway through the day.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

View PostLock, on 27 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

So now what, you change to another judge because Hentos voted for you (RNVP still hasn't been called)?


Eh? I haven't changed choices at all. I had yet to.submit. I thought I had more time. If you look back, you'll see a Barghast post clarifying things. I submitted Cast when PS called for votes to be in. All night, I only considered you and Cast. I tried to pick the best choice.

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Yeah but you were also talking earlier about this whole not lynching people who vote for you policy...

Whatever, I don't know any of the other players and it's not my head on the chopping block so I'm fine with it. But in future days I'd prefer we have a more concrete set of options setup earlier instead of adding new plans halfway through the day.

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This kind of shit is why I ignore politics as a rule.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:18 PM

So far we've got 5 votes for Lock:

Lock, Liosan, Grasp, Barghast, Demelain

Nimander said he would vote Lock for a Hanas+Demelain lynch

View PostNimander Golit, on 27 August 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

I dont really have anything to say about the current mayoral race except I dont know anything about demelain or hanas, but I will vote Lock to make it happen rather than pussyfoot around like day 1

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Dunno if he would still vote Lock now.


Presumably Cast will vote Lock so he gets picked as Judge.


Still need 3 or 4 more then if this election is even going to happen.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

View PostHentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Bah, I hate you all!

remove vote

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yesh, that's why reading up is important.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostMeanas, on 27 August 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostHentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Bah, I hate you all!

remove vote

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yesh, that's why reading up is important.

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I caught up everything but the page where Lock said he'd selected Cast. Based on our conversation last night I thought he was still hemming and hawing between Grasp and Meanas.

EDIT: [0] fuuuuuuuuu

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

So far we've got 5 votes for Lock:

Lock, Liosan, Grasp, Barghast, Demelain

Nimander said he would vote Lock for a Hanas+Demelain lynch

View PostNimander Golit, on 27 August 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

I dont really have anything to say about the current mayoral race except I dont know anything about demelain or hanas, but I will vote Lock to make it happen rather than pussyfoot around like day 1

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Dunno if he would still vote Lock now.


Presumably Cast will vote Lock so he gets picked as Judge.


Still need 3 or 4 more then if this election is even going to happen.




Are you not reading my posts? Nimander was one of the 4 who made Hentos the most popular choice.

View PostNimander Golit, on 27 August 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

I dont know any more about either of them. Hentos Ilm I could get behind for thw same reason as Hanas, just not much of a presence. I gam wildly guessing that fandy isnt on my team based on gut, but no more than that. Would prefer a Hanas and Hentos lynch simply because I could hope that I dont have two low posters (lower than me!) in my faction.

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You mentioned Hentos and Nimander.
Nimander mentioned Hentos and Fanderay.
Cast mentioned Hentos and Fanderay.
Demelain mentioned Hentos and Merrid.

I already said that these posts are what made Hentos the most popular choice.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:32 PM

View PostLock, on 27 August 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Are you not reading my posts?


Obviously not.




Except that.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

Vote Lock

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He should have around 6 or 7 votes yes?


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM

I would like to reiterate that calling out low posters in a faction game is absurd. Its not like I'm THE KILLER trying to hide in a gaggle of low posters, I'm a player, with one of a known selection of roles, who is a little bit lost and not desiring to advertise it on thread. Barghast has been very helpful with his breakdowns for getting my head around things and my PS questions thread is nearly 4 pages long. But I'm still not confident in my assessment of the thread stacking up with anyone else's. It'd be nice to know why the fuck that makes me a target.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Meanas, how are you feeling election-wise? Going to vote for Lock (not pressuring you to do so immediately) or not leaning that way after the changes?


I'm cautious post-changes. because i'm both unsure I want to see Fanderay gone, and I'm not sure that Lock's choice wasn't affected by his convo with Hentos yesterday.

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I'm not trying to stall the lynch, but I'm not as confident in our new choices as I was in the earlier ones. I'd much rather see you as judge.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostHentos Ilm, on 27 August 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would like to reiterate that calling out low posters in a faction game is absurd. Its not like I'm THE KILLER trying to hide in a gaggle of low posters, I'm a player, with one of a known selection of roles, who is a little bit lost and not desiring to advertise it on thread. Barghast has been very helpful with his breakdowns for getting my head around things and my PS questions thread is nearly 4 pages long. But I'm still not confident in my assessment of the thread stacking up with anyone else's. It'd be nice to know why the fuck that makes me a target.

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Because in a game like this I can look at all of Barghast's posts and his interactions with other players and gradually get a sense of what sort of role he might be and what other players he might be allied with. I can't do that with a player who has 5 posts. But at the same time that player with only 5 posts could in fact be a dominant role that needs to be destroyed and is playing the hell out of the game behind the scenes. He could, in fact, be low-posting in order to avoid attention because he is such a potent role.

As always, content or quantity is still the main factor. Even if you don't post a lot, you can still make lots of good commentary on-thread and have interactions with other players. I think you're doing okay on that front. Someone like Hanas though is obviously not making any effort to interact in the game-thread, while obviously playing the game off-thread. It could be that he's the worst role in the game, or that he's on my team, but since he doesn't put any signs on-thread it's not a risk most players are willing to take.

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