[Fanderay]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 02 September 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

On holiday so won't be around much. Jalan is who I'm targeting today for obvious reasons. Elect me mayor and I'll select from anyone that will target Jalan for lynch. Elect me judge and that will be who I lynch.
We can't allow such shady shit to continue.
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We're a few hours from RNVP now and this is all we have? Fine, Fanderay, if you're Mayor I'm Judge and Jalan is dead. Good for you?

Vote Fanderay

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I trust you more than most. I would also be willing to give the Judge to anyone that is a low poster that actually comes out and states they will select Jalan as their lynch canidate. I want lots of people stating this is what they want in case there is anymore lynch funny business.

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[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Hey everyone, checking in post long-weekend! How's everyone doing? Still looking to waste a lynch?

[2]

If we can actually get a lynch then it's not wasted at all.

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[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

Brag

I summoned a Shadow.

[1]

Now that that is out of the way, let me reiterate, do NOT waste a lynch on me. You'll not only fail, you'll be giving tomorrow's judge even more power.

[1]

Well we've got to try and lynch someone.

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[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I'm gonna go ahead and....

Confidence

Vote Jalan

Cause there needs to be an alternative to Fanderay. I'll talk about my judge choice after RNVP.

[1]

Barghast.

I'll lay a vote for you if you select me as Judge. Jalan seems certain the lynch will fail so I want an alternate that isn't Jalan.

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[Jalan]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

Brag

I summoned a Shadow.

[1]

Now that that is out of the way, let me reiterate, do NOT waste a lynch on me. You'll not only fail, you'll be giving tomorrow's judge even more power.

[1]

Allow me to hark back to my post #551. You're saying you're a summoner. Grasp lynched a summoner before. I still contend that Sanity is what'll stop this becoming a free-for-all and we need them either Guarded or dead. I want you dead now more than I did just for messing with another election/lynch.

So you summoned a shadow. So what? It provides you with a LP? We only have your word for that, it wasn't in the Brag post therefore it can easily be a lie. It could equally well lay flat on the ground behind you and do SFA. And we can always lynch you again tomorrow as 1 of the 2 if it fails. You can only be Enginseer, Cattle Thief, Confederate Captain, Channeler or Released Wanderer. That's 4 factions, a nice enough spread of chances for you being one that hasn't taken a loss yet.

I agree with the need for a second train, just not liking it you being #2 - does anyone trust you now? I'd say hold off the second till after RVNP at least to keep the lynch-affecter(s) guessing as long as possible.

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Obviously I can't answer your question re: the Shadow. What I have implied is only what can be implied with what is readily available on thread. Friendship me and I'll give you more information, but on thread this is all I can do. Let me just add - do you really think that I can only summon a Shadow once?

And I understand not wanting me to be the 2nd train's destination, but I'm gonna put it out there right away, just in case. I figure it's best to not waste time with this. Plus I needed to do the Brag before RNVP so that people who`ve chosen me as their lynch choice can change that so as not to give tomorrow's judge more power than is necessary.

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[Tapper]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

@Barg - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. But Merrid is just an imaginary dragon! @Cast - Beatrice? @Jalan - I think you're supposed to put the full ability PM on-thread? Not just paraphrase?

edit: [3]

Doesn't say that in the Brag description. Tapper will let me know if that is the case. I don't care either way, you don't get any more information from the full ability text than from what I gave you, I just don't want to get modkilled by accident.

[1]

Brag is multi-interpretable I guess and therefore I am fine with your interpretation and use of it.
It is meant as a tool to (partially) reveal. You can do it your way, you can do a full textual reveal including ability cost - whichever you like.

[Jalan]

Tapper, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

@Barg - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. But Merrid is just an imaginary dragon! @Cast - Beatrice? @Jalan - I think you're supposed to put the full ability PM on-thread? Not just paraphrase?

edit: [3]

Doesn't say that in the Brag description. Tapper will let me know if that is the case. I don't care either way, you don't get any more information from the full ability text than from what I gave you, I just don't want to get modkilled by accident.

[1]

Brag is multi-interpretable I guess and therefore I am fine with your interpretation and use of it.
It is meant as a tool to (partially) reveal. You can do it your way, you can do a full textual reveal including ability cost - whichever you like.

In that case, the full ability is as follows:

Quote

Spades [5] - Shadow - Summon (Day Action): Create a Shadow in a temporary alt. It has your faction alignment.

[1]

[Grasp]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Tapper, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

@Barg - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. But Merrid is just an imaginary dragon! @Cast - Beatrice? @Jalan - I think you're supposed to put the full ability PM on-thread? Not just paraphrase?

edit: [3]

Doesn't say that in the Brag description. Tapper will let me know if that is the case. I don't care either way, you don't get any more information from the full ability text than from what I gave you, I just don't want to get modkilled by accident.

[1]

Brag is multi-interpretable I guess and therefore I am fine with your interpretation and use of it.
It is meant as a tool to (partially) reveal. You can do it your way, you can do a full textual reveal including ability cost - whichever you like.

In that case, the full ability is as follows:

Quote

Spades [5] - Shadow - Summon (Day Action): Create a Shadow in a temporary alt. It has your faction alignment.

[1]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

now I'm scared!

[3]

[Jalan]

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Tapper, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

@Barg - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. But Merrid is just an imaginary dragon! @Cast - Beatrice? @Jalan - I think you're supposed to put the full ability PM on-thread? Not just paraphrase?

edit: [3]

Doesn't say that in the Brag description. Tapper will let me know if that is the case. I don't care either way, you don't get any more information from the full ability text than from what I gave you, I just don't want to get modkilled by accident.

[1]

Brag is multi-interpretable I guess and therefore I am fine with your interpretation and use of it.
It is meant as a tool to (partially) reveal. You can do it your way, you can do a full textual reveal including ability cost - whichever you like.

In that case, the full ability is as follows:

Quote

Spades [5] - Shadow - Summon (Day Action): Create a Shadow in a temporary alt. It has your faction alignment.

[1]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

now I'm scared!

[3]

I told you there was no extra information in the full ability text. What it DOES show, though, is that it's a Day action, so there's not many things that would be useful DAY actions.

[1]

[Barghast]

Fanderay, on 03 September 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I'm gonna go ahead and....

Confidence

Vote Jalan

Cause there needs to be an alternative to Fanderay. I'll talk about my judge choice after RNVP.

[1]

Barghast.

I'll lay a vote for you if you select me as Judge. Jalan seems certain the lynch will fail so I want an alternate that isn't Jalan.

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Sorry, I'm not getting involved in mutual voting, or in saying who my Judge choice happens to be today. My alternative is still going to be random. I may have to pull and do a selfie later to make sure it is not Jalan in number 2 but I'm striking no deals with someone else who is running.

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[Grasp]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Tapper, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

@Barg - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. But Merrid is just an imaginary dragon! @Cast - Beatrice? @Jalan - I think you're supposed to put the full ability PM on-thread? Not just paraphrase?

edit: [3]

Doesn't say that in the Brag description. Tapper will let me know if that is the case. I don't care either way, you don't get any more information from the full ability text than from what I gave you, I just don't want to get modkilled by accident.

[1]

Brag is multi-interpretable I guess and therefore I am fine with your interpretation and use of it.
It is meant as a tool to (partially) reveal. You can do it your way, you can do a full textual reveal including ability cost - whichever you like.

In that case, the full ability is as follows:

Quote

Spades [5] - Shadow - Summon (Day Action): Create a Shadow in a temporary alt. It has your faction alignment.

[1]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

now I'm scared!

[3]

I told you there was no extra information in the full ability text. What it DOES show, though, is that it's a Day action, so there's not many things that would be useful DAY actions.

[1]

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all game. If that ability text you quoted was the extent of the thing, it'd be an utterly useless ability. Obviously there's somewhere else in your role PM a section about what the Shadow does/can do once it is created, and that section could either be in the day or at night. There's plenty of reasons the Shadow could be created during the day and then only do actions at night. Makes it harder for you to be Guarded when you try to create the Shadow, for example. Or it could have both day and night abilities.

[3]

[Merrid]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Obviously I can't answer your question re: the Shadow. What I have implied is only what can be implied with what is readily available on thread. Friendship me and I'll give you more information, but on thread this is all I can do. Let me just add - do you really think that I can only summon a Shadow once?

And I understand not wanting me to be the 2nd train's destination, but I'm gonna put it out there right away, just in case. I figure it's best to not waste time with this. Plus I needed to do the Brag before RNVP so that people who`ve chosen me as their lynch choice can change that so as not to give tomorrow's judge more power than is necessary.

[1]

You're obviously implying that the Shadow can be used to stand in for you at a lynch. But, to answer the bit in italics, I would hope that Tapper has learned from the Sacrosanct experience.

I don't want to waste a lynch, but then there's always the possibility that you're bluffing, that the Shadow does nothing of the sort. As I said, I would hope we don't have another Sacrosanct here.

[2]

[Grasp]

Yeah, another Northern Desert fiasco seems unlikely, IMO. Tapper probably did an entire re-read of his game setup focusing entirely on just making sure that wasn't possible again &lt;img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />' /&gt;

With that in mind, I will

Vote Fanderay

because Jalan is stinky!

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edit: line spacing fixed (posting from mobile is problematic)

This post has been edited by Grasp: 03 September 2013 - 04:03 PM

[Cast]

Does Fanderay have any PM's going on?

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[Fanderay]

Cast, on 03 September 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Does Fanderay have any PM's going on?

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Nobody loves me?

(2)

[Cast]

Fanderay, on 03 September 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Cast, on 03 September 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Does Fanderay have any PM's going on?

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Nobody loves me?

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You have a nice avatar. Just checking your knives are not being sharpened off screen. I can see a back stab at some point, it's just great it's only one lynch today.

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[Fanderay]

Feel free to be my friend Cast. Let's bury the hatchet. At least for a day so we can focus on Jalan instead.

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[Jalan]

Merrid, on 03 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Obviously I can't answer your question re: the Shadow. What I have implied is only what can be implied with what is readily available on thread. Friendship me and I'll give you more information, but on thread this is all I can do. Let me just add - do you really think that I can only summon a Shadow once?

And I understand not wanting me to be the 2nd train's destination, but I'm gonna put it out there right away, just in case. I figure it's best to not waste time with this. Plus I needed to do the Brag before RNVP so that people who`ve chosen me as their lynch choice can change that so as not to give tomorrow's judge more power than is necessary.

[1]

You're obviously implying that the Shadow can be used to stand in for you at a lynch. But, to answer the bit in italics, I would hope that Tapper has learned from the Sacrosanct experience.

I don't want to waste a lynch, but then there's always the possibility that you're bluffing, that the Shadow does nothing of the sort. As I said, I would hope we don't have another Sacrosanct here.

[2]

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yeah, another Northern Desert fiasco seems unlikely, IMO. Tapper probably did an entire re-read of his game setup focusing entirely on just making sure that wasn't possible again &lt;img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />' /&gt;

With that in mind, I will

Vote Fanderay

because Jalan is stinky!

[2]

edit: line spacing fixed (posting from mobile is problematic)

Well, I'll also point out the failed lynch during Day 2, where someone stopped the Mayoral election from happening? How is that different from having a LP except on its surface?

Sacrosanct was different, because everyone in the game had access to it, and it affected an entire tile. Having ONE person have a LP ability is MUCH different from that, don't you think? Anyway, like I said, I'm just doing my best to have you not give tomorrow's judge 2 lynches. I have my doubts about anyone's ability to see reason in this game. The amount of work that went into getting you guys just to elect me Mayor, and in the end it only happened because it was where the train was headed anyway, proves that no one is interested in actually using rational thought in this game. So I fully expect I'll be the one that ends up being the lynch choice, which will not only screw YOU over, but will also, I suspect, screw me over cause you'll just keep trying to lynch me in hopes it will work, so I'll have to keep wasting my fucking Spades on the Shadow.

Anyway, I'll be back after RNVP to talk about my judge/lynch choices, not that I expect it will matter.

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[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Merrid, on 03 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Obviously I can't answer your question re: the Shadow. What I have implied is only what can be implied with what is readily available on thread. Friendship me and I'll give you more information, but on thread this is all I can do. Let me just add - do you really think that I can only summon a Shadow once?

And I understand not wanting me to be the 2nd train's destination, but I'm gonna put it out there right away, just in case. I figure it's best to not waste time with this. Plus I needed to do the Brag before RNVP so that people who`ve chosen me as their lynch choice can change that so as not to give tomorrow's judge more power than is necessary.

[1]

You're obviously implying that the Shadow can be used to stand in for you at a lynch. But, to answer the bit in italics, I would hope that Tapper has learned from the Sacrosanct experience.

I don't want to waste a lynch, but then there's always the possibility that you're bluffing, that the Shadow does nothing of the sort. As I said, I would hope we don't have another Sacrosanct here.

[2]

Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yeah, another Northern Desert fiasco seems unlikely, IMO. Tapper probably did an entire re-read of his game setup focusing entirely on just making sure that wasn't possible again &lt;img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://forum.malazanempire.com/public/style_emoticons/default/p.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />' /&gt;

With that in mind, I will

Vote Fanderay

because Jalan is stinky!

[2]

edit: line spacing fixed (posting from mobile is problematic)

Well, I'll also point out the failed lynch during Day 2, where someone stopped the Mayoral election from happening? How is that different from having a LP except on its surface?

Sacrosanct was different, because everyone in the game had access to it, and it affected an entire tile. Having ONE person have a LP ability is MUCH different from that, don't you think? Anyway, like I said, I'm just doing my best to have you not give tomorrow's judge 2 lynches. I have my doubts about anyone's ability to see reason in this game. The amount of work that went into getting you guys just to elect me Mayor, and in the end it only happened because it was where the train was headed anyway, proves that no one is interested in actually using rational thought in this game. So I fully expect I'll be the one that ends up being the lynch choice, which will not only screw YOU over, but will also, I suspect, screw me over cause you'll just keep trying to lynch me in hopes it will work, so I'll have to keep wasting my fucking Spades on the Shadow.

Anyway, I'll be back after RNVP to talk about my judge/lynch choices, not that I expect it will matter.

[1]

So what he is telling us people is that tonight people need to start attacking temporary alts. Once they are all dead he can't make anymore shadows and then can be lynched.

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[Merrid]

Fanderay, on 03 September 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

So what he is telling us people is that tonight people need to start attacking temporary alts. Once they are all dead he can't make anymore shadows and then can be lynched.

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Uh, he could just make them again the next day with the new temporary alts (as long as he has the Spades)...

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