Fanderay, on 03 September 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:
There was an ability that was available to everyone that if they could come up with enough of a certain resource they essentially could never be lynched and everyone on the same tile as the person who used the abilty also enjoyed that protection. It's sounding more and more like the situation for Jalan except that he is the only one to benefit from that protection.
He has bullets and spades to pay for an action to create a shadow. And if what people are saying on thread is true when we lynch Jalan the shadow is what actually gets lynched. So as long as Jalan can reset all of his bullet and spade die and as long as there are temporary alts we can't lynch Jalan. Frankly I find it hard to believe that Tapper would make someone unlynchable especially after the whole TOD fiasco and after Mafia 100 where we had such a hard time trying to kill off the Dreadfather (seriously making scum unlynchable?)
I personally think the costs are greater than Jalan is leading us to believe else he would have been making these shadows all game long and stockpiling them. And why brag about it? Ah now I get it. I think the benefit may be temporary as well. Say as in you create a shadow the shadow is lynched in your stead. If you are not lynched the shadow disipates after currently day/night cycle.
Why burn through the temporary alts for a short term benefit. And who says we are giving the future judges more power. As long as they are always selecting Jalan for their lynch target and leaving someone else as their new target we will always only have one lynch going forward and we limit what Jalan can do every cycle until someone gets around to attacking him successfully at night.
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Agreed dissipation is a possible result - when are shadows seen? in the Day. Can you have a shadow at Night, with no light? Nope. When do lynches happen - between Day and Night. To me it stands to reason a "Shadow" is limited duration if it provides a LP
1. Now the question I wonder is why is he sounding off about it. He's trying to deflect the lynch but hasn't presented an alternative target, he's just trying to get us to pull off him of our own accord. I wonder if his Shadow is in fact one shot summoning *and* one shot LP and perhaps not time limited after all. He survives one lynch, people don't try again too hard because they think he can summon another LP and so he lives a little longer. With the election manipulation we've had it may be a safe bet that future trains end up with unexpected results, allowing him the hope of seeing the game through.
Of course, if we lynch him and he survives and an alt doesn't die with his alignment (handy free find for us there Jalan by the way, thank you) then we take shots at all the new alts. Why only the new ones? Because so far each Longhorn the Cattle Thief has killed has been of the current Days temp alt crop so I suspect that they don't tend to occupy older alts.
We're past RVNP now, my choices are confirmed to PS.
1I am, of course, ignoring the fact It could be anything else but for a generated LP to be time sensitive would add to reducing the power of the ability.
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