[Mockra]

Trake, on 07 August 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Wow. You all actually had a semi-productive day. You have pleased this blackhearted old motherfucker. I would not have voted Jalan, I know it was another skin of the teeth day but after Rash's modkill for playing against his team I think it may have been better to leave Jal alone and actually think about who was likely scum. I have to call out Mockra for pushing Jal to self hammer at the end there. There was no benefit to us in that lynch. According to the CF he was town, most of the thread seemed to think he was town and reading up I certainly would have agreed that I thought he was town as well. And yet Mockra initiates the final push for his neck and then bitches at him to selfie. I am firmly convinced that Mockra is scum and will be voting for him in the morning.

As a side note, based on the posts Rash made, I would have to conclude that he was in fact the Edo general and that he was killed for this comment:

Rashan, on 06 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

I am not going to request a mod-kill. Because well, fuck you all. I'd prefer town lose this game.( and any other game played this shitty)

In conjunction with the rule that you may not play in a fashion that is a detriment to your own team.

I didn't mention one time that he should hammer himself. What are you reading? He said he was going to self hammer, after I waited as long as possible to vote(less than 30 mins) and explained to him why it was better for town to vote someone off than to go without another lynch. I did my absolute best for what I think is town's best interest. We can't keep not lynching. Why are you not even helping, or coming on to say not Jalan, this guy instead, or tell us what you think before you have all knowledge in front of you. It's damn easy for you to act like you knew Jalan was town for sure after you see his CF then post. I didn't want to lose him, but sitting here every dang day doing nothing ain't helping us. Seriously, Trake. I'm not even trying to argue with you. How can you not clearly see how I felt about the entire situation. I even asked him to wait until last minute once he decided to self vote(because obviously even he knew a lynch was better than a no lynch) so I could see who would and wouldn't vote. I think scum are playing some screwed up game. They're either withholding kills on purpose, or something screwy is going on. And on top of that, why the heck would we not want to lynch? I'm honestly asking you in all humility. I don't understand how not lynching would help us. Dude.

[Mockra]

Trake, on 07 August 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Also, there's a potential for 2 kills tonight and with 19 players originally 4 scum remains very likely. Without a scum CF to date we're staring D-Day square in the face. Perhaps that'll motivate some of the asshats that refuse to participate. Looking at Anthras in particular with that statement.

I don't think we've heard from Anthras at all in a long while. We might lose him if he don't come on soon. Unless I overlooked it.

[Barghast]

Path-Shaper, on 04 August 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

It is Night 4. 4 hours and 42 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

this is the first PS post I see w/o the modkill disclaimer. it was made 48 hours ago.

In the future, I'd like to request mods to make announcements when clocks freeze and unfreeze, pls.

[Okaros]

Well it's still night but I'm not really averse to talking at night, especially in M&P games. Whether you sound off during the day or night the WIFOM can still always creep in.

So anyways, we're in a situation here we don't normally get into - that of having missed a lot of lynches. Generally, yeah, it's bad for town to miss many lynches, but on the other hand it is REALLY bad for scum. Scum is absolutely vested in getting rid of town in as few nights as possible, both because it means less info from the thread itself and also because it's fewer nights for them to be found by a healer. Plus, in general, scum tend to be more involved in the game due to their role. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll post more, but they're more likely to be keeping track of it and not miss day timing out. So given that we've had many days with a lot of people not voting, I suggest that we may be able to narrow down the scum by looking at who did and didn't vote a lot.

Path-Shaper, on 30 July 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 0 hours and 0 minutes remaining.
19 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Barghast ( Korbas )
2 Votes for Desra ( Cast, D'riss )
1 Vote for Liosan ( Alkend )
5 Votes for Alkend ( Kalse, Gait, Jalan, Barghast, Liosan )

Players not voted: Anthras, Desra, Eloth, Galain, Hanas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake


Gen watched the Fujiwari troops from his post on the Western wall. The enemy soldiers seemed intent on completing their entrenchments, but not much else. He turned, the banner attached to the back of his armor whipping in the early Spring wind. "Keep an eye on their forward pickets. I'm going for a piss."
"But we don't know how many of them there are. Should we get an accurate count?" replied a bushy eyebrowed spearman.
Gen stopped, turned back and said "We've all been speculating on that for a while now. But the truth is for us we really only need to worry about one thing, we hold this wall. That's all you need to know. I'm going for a piss."
And what a lovely, long arching piss it was.

Day 1 is over. No one was lynched.

It is now Night 1. Please submit your actions ASAP.

Path-Shaper, on 31 July 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 7 hours and 56 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Rashan ( Cast )
5 Votes for Alkend ( Okaros, Mockra, Gait, Trake, Liosan )
1 Vote for Desra ( Korbas )
10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)

Players not voted: Eloth, Jalan


That is a lynch.

Cast is dead. He was Yasuhide Narumasa and Peanutbutta of Arai Castle

The Takeda spy watched from his position on the small hill well beyond the Fujiwari line. So far not much was happening, the Fujiwari seemed uncharacteristcally cautious. They seemed more content to shift their formations and send messages to and fro. The spy plucked a nearby grassroot to chew on and absently scratched his arse. The flies on this hill were getting worse.
A new set of motion caught his eye, on the plain just East of the castle a larger skirmish was taking place. It seemed a group of messengers and escorts had encountered a small sortie from the castle. I furious exchange of blows with several soldiers toppling from their saddles. Some got up again, a few others did not. The agent bit through his grass stem and turned back to the main field of Fujiwari soldiers. He hoped something worthwhile happened soon, so he could make a decent report.

Path-Shaper, on 02 August 2013 - 12:43 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 81 minutes since time out with 9 minutes of time extension left.


16 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

9 Votes for D'riss ( Barghast, Trake, Kalse, Galain, Korbas, Jalan, Tellan, Rashan, Hanas )
3 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Alkend, D'riss)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros )

Players not voted: Anthras

D'riss is dead. He was Kenshiro Mochizuki and Lady Bliss of Edo Castle.

Most of the 3rd day of the siege saw small skirmishes back and forth, mostly arrow fire and small groups of warriors squaring off in challenges for personal honor and glory. Just past dark saw a main thrusting attack of the Fujiwari. The wall defenses were overwhelmed in two different places as Fujiwari troops swarmed past the shallow swampy pit and scaled the sloped stone wall. The fighting was fierce, but the Fujiwari couldn't get the numbers over wall quickly enough to reinforce their breach and were pushed back and down over the wall. Dead and dying were counted on both sides, with heads of particularly important personages collected. General Ota pushed his men to shore up the defenses through the night, and the dead were given their proper respect.

Path-Shaper, on 03 August 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

It is Day 4. less than a minute remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Rashan ( Hanas, Rashan, Mockra, Korbas, Tellan, Trake, Galain )
2 Votes for Mockra ( Alkend, Barghast )

Players not voted: Anthras, Eloth, Gait, Jalan, Okaros

Path-Shaper, on 05 August 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

According to the timestamp, both Galain and Jalan's votes are too late. It is now night 5.

Galain, on 05 August 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Vote RashanVote Rashan

It is Day 5. Day timed out 2 minutes before Galain made that post.

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Rashan ( Trake, Alkend, Tellan, Eloth, Gait, Korbas )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan

No lynch.

-gnaw

Gnaw, on 06 August 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Captain Nagao Tamemasa looked at the defenders arrayed before him in the courtyard. The siege had taken its toll. Bored, desultory looks, disheveled armor and posture that spoke of defeat, despite the fact the walls still held, and there were defenders still standing to defend them.

Tamemasa was afraid, knowing that one strong push by the Fujiwari could very well shatter them. And worst of all, these men seemed disinclined to even raise a weapon in response.

Surely the gods were raging...or laughing.

It is Day 6. 1 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake


7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


6 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend, Okaros, Mockra, Tellan, Jalan )


Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Korbas, Trake

That is a lynch

Jalan is dead. He was Gendo Kajiwara of Arai castle and HiddenOne.

Let's count for each person the number of times they didn't vote by the end of the day, the number of times they voted on the biggest train and how many times they voted somewhere else:



missed vote/voted someone else/biggest train

Barghast - 2/1/3
Galain - 2/0/4
Alkend - 0/3/3
Korbas - 1/2/3
Tellan - 1/0/5
Trake - 2/1/3
Mockra - 2/2/2
Gait - 2/2/2
Eloth - 3/1/2
Okaros - 3/2/1
Anthras - 5/0/1



I don't really remember much from Tellan all game, but other than day 1 he's been voting on the biggest train every single day. Galain also surprised me with that high of a number, and one of his missed lynch counts was only a miss by a few minutes.

So when day resumes, I think we should be looking most closely at Tellan and Galain, as well as Korbas, because I just don't see scum missing all that many votes.

[Mockra]

Korbas only missed one vote though,according to your numbers. Why korbas?

[Okaros]

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

Korbas only missed one vote though,according to your numbers. Why korbas?

That's exactly the point.

[Trake]

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 12:45 AM, said:

Trake, on 07 August 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Wow. You all actually had a semi-productive day. You have pleased this blackhearted old motherfucker. I would not have voted Jalan, I know it was another skin of the teeth day but after Rash's modkill for playing against his team I think it may have been better to leave Jal alone and actually think about who was likely scum. I have to call out Mockra for pushing Jal to self hammer at the end there. There was no benefit to us in that lynch. According to the CF he was town, most of the thread seemed to think he was town and reading up I certainly would have agreed that I thought he was town as well. And yet Mockra initiates the final push for his neck and then bitches at him to selfie. I am firmly convinced that Mockra is scum and will be voting for him in the morning.

As a side note, based on the posts Rash made, I would have to conclude that he was in fact the Edo general and that he was killed for this comment:

Rashan, on 06 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

I am not going to request a mod-kill. Because well, fuck you all. I'd prefer town lose this game.( and any other game played this shitty)

In conjunction with the rule that you may not play in a fashion that is a detriment to your own team.

I didn't mention one time that he should hammer himself. What are you reading? He said he was going to self hammer, after I waited as long as possible to vote(less than 30 mins) and explained to him why it was better for town to vote someone off than to go without another lynch. I did my absolute best for what I think is town's best interest. We can't keep not lynching. Why are you not even helping, or coming on to say not Jalan, this guy instead, or tell us what you think before you have all knowledge in front of you. It's damn easy for you to act like you knew Jalan was town for sure after you see his CF then post. I didn't want to lose him, but sitting here every dang day doing nothing ain't helping us. Seriously, Trake. I'm not even trying to argue with you. How can you not clearly see how I felt about the entire situation. I even asked him to wait until last minute once he decided to self vote(because obviously even he knew a lynch was better than a no lynch) so I could see who would and wouldn't vote. I think scum are playing some screwed up game. They're either withholding kills on purpose, or something screwy is going on. And on top of that, why the heck would we not want to lynch? I'm honestly asking you in all humility. I don't understand how not lynching would help us. Dude.

I guess this is what I was thinking of

Mockra, on 06 August 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

I'd rather you wait until last minute. I want to know who will and won't vote.

Which I admit is not what I thought it was. I guess I'm more tired than I thought. As for not contribootin' I had work all day and then an interview for a better job right after my shift. So I got on and caught up as soon as I got home, but not in time to decry yon madness. Also, I do see how you felt about it, I'm just stating the fact that it was a poor decision. The reason I don't think the lynch was necessary was because of the modkill. And the potential Anthras modkill. And the fact that it's D-Day and we shouldn't be lynching town. Anyhow. I'm gonna sleep now and try to stop strawmanning.

[Gnaw]

It is Night 6. 5 hours and 2 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

[Tellan]

Okaros, on 07 August 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

Well it's still night but I'm not really averse to talking at night, especially in M&P games. Whether you sound off during the day or night the WIFOM can still always creep in.

So anyways, we're in a situation here we don't normally get into - that of having missed a lot of lynches. Generally, yeah, it's bad for town to miss many lynches, but on the other hand it is REALLY bad for scum. Scum is absolutely vested in getting rid of town in as few nights as possible, both because it means less info from the thread itself and also because it's fewer nights for them to be found by a healer. Plus, in general, scum tend to be more involved in the game due to their role. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll post more, but they're more likely to be keeping track of it and not miss day timing out. So given that we've had many days with a lot of people not voting, I suggest that we may be able to narrow down the scum by looking at who did and didn't vote a lot.

Path-Shaper, on 30 July 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 0 hours and 0 minutes remaining.
19 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Barghast ( Korbas )
2 Votes for Desra ( Cast, D'riss )
1 Vote for Liosan ( Alkend )
5 Votes for Alkend ( Kalse, Gait, Jalan, Barghast, Liosan )

Players not voted: Anthras, Desra, Eloth, Galain, Hanas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake


Gen watched the Fujiwari troops from his post on the Western wall. The enemy soldiers seemed intent on completing their entrenchments, but not much else. He turned, the banner attached to the back of his armor whipping in the early Spring wind. "Keep an eye on their forward pickets. I'm going for a piss."
"But we don't know how many of them there are. Should we get an accurate count?" replied a bushy eyebrowed spearman.
Gen stopped, turned back and said "We've all been speculating on that for a while now. But the truth is for us we really only need to worry about one thing, we hold this wall. That's all you need to know. I'm going for a piss."
And what a lovely, long arching piss it was.

Day 1 is over. No one was lynched.

It is now Night 1. Please submit your actions ASAP.

Path-Shaper, on 31 July 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 7 hours and 56 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Rashan ( Cast )
5 Votes for Alkend ( Okaros, Mockra, Gait, Trake, Liosan )
1 Vote for Desra ( Korbas )
10 Votes for Cast ( Barghast, Rashan, Alkend, Tellan, Desra, Anthras, Kalse, D'riss, Hanas, Galain)

Players not voted: Eloth, Jalan


That is a lynch.

Cast is dead. He was Yasuhide Narumasa and Peanutbutta of Arai Castle

The Takeda spy watched from his position on the small hill well beyond the Fujiwari line. So far not much was happening, the Fujiwari seemed uncharacteristcally cautious. They seemed more content to shift their formations and send messages to and fro. The spy plucked a nearby grassroot to chew on and absently scratched his arse. The flies on this hill were getting worse.
A new set of motion caught his eye, on the plain just East of the castle a larger skirmish was taking place. It seemed a group of messengers and escorts had encountered a small sortie from the castle. I furious exchange of blows with several soldiers toppling from their saddles. Some got up again, a few others did not. The agent bit through his grass stem and turned back to the main field of Fujiwari soldiers. He hoped something worthwhile happened soon, so he could make a decent report.

Path-Shaper, on 02 August 2013 - 12:43 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 81 minutes since time out with 9 minutes of time extension left.


16 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

9 Votes for D'riss ( Barghast, Trake, Kalse, Galain, Korbas, Jalan, Tellan, Rashan, Hanas )
3 Votes for Rashan ( Gait, Alkend, D'riss)
1 Vote for Jalan ( Eloth )
2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Okaros )

Players not voted: Anthras

D'riss is dead. He was Kenshiro Mochizuki and Lady Bliss of Edo Castle.

Most of the 3rd day of the siege saw small skirmishes back and forth, mostly arrow fire and small groups of warriors squaring off in challenges for personal honor and glory. Just past dark saw a main thrusting attack of the Fujiwari. The wall defenses were overwhelmed in two different places as Fujiwari troops swarmed past the shallow swampy pit and scaled the sloped stone wall. The fighting was fierce, but the Fujiwari couldn't get the numbers over wall quickly enough to reinforce their breach and were pushed back and down over the wall. Dead and dying were counted on both sides, with heads of particularly important personages collected. General Ota pushed his men to shore up the defenses through the night, and the dead were given their proper respect.

Path-Shaper, on 03 August 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

It is Day 4. less than a minute remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Rashan ( Hanas, Rashan, Mockra, Korbas, Tellan, Trake, Galain )
2 Votes for Mockra ( Alkend, Barghast )

Players not voted: Anthras, Eloth, Gait, Jalan, Okaros

Path-Shaper, on 05 August 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

According to the timestamp, both Galain and Jalan's votes are too late. It is now night 5.

Galain, on 05 August 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Vote RashanVote Rashan

It is Day 5. Day timed out 2 minutes before Galain made that post.

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Rashan ( Trake, Alkend, Tellan, Eloth, Gait, Korbas )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan

No lynch.

-gnaw

Gnaw, on 06 August 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Captain Nagao Tamemasa looked at the defenders arrayed before him in the courtyard. The siege had taken its toll. Bored, desultory looks, disheveled armor and posture that spoke of defeat, despite the fact the walls still held, and there were defenders still standing to defend them.

Tamemasa was afraid, knowing that one strong push by the Fujiwari could very well shatter them. And worst of all, these men seemed disinclined to even raise a weapon in response.

Surely the gods were raging...or laughing.

It is Day 6. 1 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake


7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


6 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend, Okaros, Mockra, Tellan, Jalan )


Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Korbas, Trake

That is a lynch

Jalan is dead. He was Gendo Kajiwara of Arai castle and HiddenOne.

Let's count for each person the number of times they didn't vote by the end of the day, the number of times they voted on the biggest train and how many times they voted somewhere else:



missed vote/voted someone else/biggest train

Barghast - 2/1/3
Galain - 2/0/4
Alkend - 0/3/3
Korbas - 1/2/3
Tellan - 1/0/5
Trake - 2/1/3
Mockra - 2/2/2
Gait - 2/2/2
Eloth - 3/1/2
Okaros - 3/2/1
Anthras - 5/0/1



I don't really remember much from Tellan all game, but other than day 1 he's been voting on the biggest train every single day. Galain also surprised me with that high of a number, and one of his missed lynch counts was only a miss by a few minutes.

So when day resumes, I think we should be looking most closely at Tellan and Galain, as well as Korbas, because I just don't see scum missing all that many votes.

Okaros, I'm glad you're trying to look for new suspects, but this seems a bit shaky, because the distinction between town and scum you're making is whether they don't want a no-lynch, or really don't want a no-lynch, which seems a bit of an odd metric to use. It's been drilled into my head as town that it is never a good idea to no-lynch (strengthened by all the stories of vets talking about how they were lynched day one for voting night, and then learned that lynching is always a better choice)
Also, you say more info is gained on thread each day, but what you don't mention is that a huge part of that information is through lynches. This line of reasoning seems to be a bit of a stretch to me.

[Gnaw]

It is Night 6. 3 hours and 13 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: Mockra, Anthras, Tellan, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Okaros, Trake, Alkend

[Barghast]

The clusterfuck of the Jalan train:

Galain, on 06 August 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

So the purpose of going for Rashan again is what exactly? Thinking back, hasn't Jalan missed two lynches by a couple of hours but put a vote down anyway? Possibly hoping for the lynch to fail and yet wanting to be seen to be trying?

Galain, on 06 August 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Vote Jalan

Edit: remove doubled textEdit: remove doubled text

Eloth comes in and makes these gems:

Eloth, on 06 August 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 August 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

You know what...

vote Rashan

Yeah, I know, he seems so much more like an idiot townie than a scum, but it's the principle of the thing. He is not playing like someone who wants town to win, plain and simple. That, by principle, makes him vote-worthy, and if we don't lynch him for it then it just gives the excuse to future idiot townies to play like shit so they don't get lynched OR for scum to play like idiot townies so they don't get lynched. That is not the kind of mafia I would want to ever play, so the line must be drawn here.

Scummiest post of the game.

Eloth, on 06 August 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Jalan, on 06 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

He doesn't want to play, so let's get rid of him

Vote Rashan

And my number one suspect with another stupid vote.

Eloth, on 06 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

vote Jalan


in the hopes that we can swing this thing away from a clearly town player. This blows my mind and if there isn't at least 1 scum on the train, I'll eat my hat.

ok, I can see the reasoning. Kinda. Jalan's choice of words wasn't the best here. Still, it's not a whole lot to base a vote on.

Eloth, on 06 August 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

... and I see that he's dead. well congrat-u-fucking-lations

Eloth, you're jumping on Jalan b/c he wanted to vote off Rash?

I'm voting Jalan because he is low posting, low content, yet often present. (i know, I know, pot...kettle...etc). I don't have much more that gut and a sense of his game play. I would be happy to look at other options, but with work right now I really don't have time to sink my teeth into this game. And at the time of my vote people were all gung ho for Rashan which I thought was stupid, so I was really looking to get something going on someone else.

Gut. it's never enough.

Alkend, on 06 August 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Getting too late in the game to miss a lynch again. Jalan seems to be where it's heading, so.
Vote Jalan

Alkend is always there, dropping helpful votes and not doing much else. If he wasn't vouched for by Rash, I'd vote him right now.

[Barghast]

Clusterfuck part 2

Jalan, on 06 August 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

also, Mockra you have misspelled my name in the same manner as Eloth did days ago - I deduce that you are signalling him so you must be his symp. Although I have assisted your efforts in case he missed it, I imagine that he's probably trying to get his team mates figured out for the next phase of the game, when strategy begins to move (giving credit that may be undeserved) and therefore is studying each post carefully for his next target. Since I have previously decided that Trake is probably also scum, I caution town players to watch them all.


Vote Eloth

for scummery unparalleled

Jalan, on 06 August 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

i love it when people vote for those who they don't believe are scum

Mockra, on 06 August 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

Jalan. It's less than half an hour, and you have 4 votes, and we'll still struggle to get a lynch on you, much less trying to go for someone else at this point. It's a no-brainer, and you know it. No matter what I feel, it's scummier to keep leaving players hanging on failed lynches.

VOTE JALAN

Tellan, on 06 August 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

Im here.... I guess I'll vote, we need a lynch

Vote Jalan

Jalan, on 06 August 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

just in time scum assistant

Jalan, on 06 August 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

vote Jalan

good luck town
stir up some interest
I have failed my lord
accept my resignation of seppuku

So based purely on that, I'm tempted to take a gander on Galain. There are others that need watching, but I can barely keep my eyes open atm.

[Korbas]

Kinda sad when dropping a vote before you leave is considered scummy.

In saying that, your post has brought up an interesting point about Galain. Being consistently on the train of every lynch target screams of not making waves, not disagreeing, following the pack so as not to stand out. In any other game I'd lay a vote on him as soon as day started. However, in this game, we've had such dismal voting behaviour that Galain's actions could be explained as just needing to get a lynch. I'll have to go back and look at the votes to see for myself.

[Galain]

Korbas, on 07 August 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

Kinda sad when dropping a vote before you leave is considered scummy.

In saying that, your post has brought up an interesting point about Galain. Being consistently on the train of every lynch target screams of not making waves, not disagreeing, following the pack so as not to stand out. In any other game I'd lay a vote on him as soon as day started. However, in this game, we've had such dismal voting behaviour that Galain's actions could be explained as just needing to get a lynch. I'll have to go back and look at the votes to see for myself.

Well also take a look at Tellan too, who has been on more than me. Yes, sad that actually being semi-active is seen as scum, but sod logic eh? Whoever did the count of votes and that summary have just PI'd themselves to me FWIW by actually you know, looking at me rather than blissfully ignoring me or following my lead like others have. Anyone else considered that the reason nights are timing out is because our other alt beginning with an A whose name I can't check at the moment due to phone is one of our killers? Kinda explains PS being reluctant to mod-kill them if there's only one scum general and lets face it, who can even recall their last post, it's Wednesday, modkill is overdue. And shit, you folks are idiots, following me on a lynch when I say I have no idea even why I'm voting for them? Just getting this out before NA results come in in case I'm dead, which after that lynch I deserve. Now taking the matchsticks out from my eyes and back in a few hours hopefully.

[Gait]

Galain, on 07 August 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

Korbas, on 07 August 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

Kinda sad when dropping a vote before you leave is considered scummy.

In saying that, your post has brought up an interesting point about Galain. Being consistently on the train of every lynch target screams of not making waves, not disagreeing, following the pack so as not to stand out. In any other game I'd lay a vote on him as soon as day started. However, in this game, we've had such dismal voting behaviour that Galain's actions could be explained as just needing to get a lynch. I'll have to go back and look at the votes to see for myself.

Well also take a look at Tellan too, who has been on more than me. Yes, sad that actually being semi-active is seen as scum, but sod logic eh? Whoever did the count of votes and that summary have just PI'd themselves to me FWIW by actually you know, looking at me rather than blissfully ignoring me or following my lead like others have. Anyone else considered that the reason nights are timing out is because our other alt beginning with an A whose name I can't check at the moment due to phone is one of our killers? Kinda explains PS being reluctant to mod-kill them if there's only one scum general and lets face it, who can even recall their last post, it's Wednesday, modkill is overdue. And shit, you folks are idiots, following me on a lynch when I say I have no idea even why I'm voting for them? Just getting this out before NA results come in in case I'm dead, which after that lynch I deserve. Now taking the matchsticks out from my eyes and back in a few hours hopefully.

Frankly, imnsho a mod-kill is a mod-kill even if it is on the central lynch-pin player (like Tyrant Steve). Maybe they asked for an extension and it was privately granted, but 48 hours is quite a bit (says the guy absent for 72 over friday + the weekend). I guess we're caught in a vicious circle here: we have no targets, no-one knows who to look at, no-one sticks their neck out, we have no targets. Anyone offering anything is better than nothing so people jump on.

Right now (late last day phase + night phase) we have:

Barghast - 2/1/3 - taking a look at Eloth and Galain
Galain - 2/0/4 - suggested by Barghast and Korbas
Alkend - 0/3/3 - still alive and VPI.
Korbas - 1/2/3 - accused by Mockra
Tellan - 1/0/5 - suggested by Galain
Trake - 2/1/3 - relatively scolding of others' performance but somewhat taking a back seat.<
Mockra - 2/2/2 - backed off from by Trake
Gait - 2/2/2 - clearly innocent (and not pressured at all so far)
Eloth - 3/1/2 - had a spat with Jalan, on Barghast's watch list
Okaros - 3/2/1 - making list of voters, "cleared" by Galain
Anthras - 5/0/1 - on borrowed time with an extended absence.



If I had to pick a scum pair based on these limited night time interactions, right now it would be Trake and Mockra, with Trake making a weak case on him, then backing of, making himself look busy and Mockra more inno.

EDITED to get rid of all the <break&color stuff.

This post has been edited by Gait: 07 August 2013 - 07:24 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Night 6 is over, no one died.

Except Anthras (Roldom), who has been modkilled.

He was Sennosuke Masahara of Arai Castle.

It is Day 7. 31 hours and 59 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

[Galain]

Korbas, on 07 August 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

Kinda sad when dropping a vote before you leave is considered scummy.

In saying that, your post has brought up an interesting point about Galain. Being consistently on the train of every lynch target screams of not making waves, not disagreeing, following the pack so as not to stand out. In any other game I'd lay a vote on him as soon as day started. However, in this game, we've had such dismal voting behaviour that Galain's actions could be explained as just needing to get a lynch. I'll have to go back and look at the votes to see for myself.

Actually, to address another point here, I hammered one time and I started another lynch train*. That doesn't hide me amongst the pack not making waves, that puts me firmly in the standing out, obvious part of the pack, just been some willful blindness towards it. I missed another where I'd have been l-1, so if you want not making waves look elsewhere. Yes I want lynches, because otherwise we end up with players like Alkend and Rashan who have had lynches fail, clearly don't give a damn any more and still hang around muddying the waters.


*Even if it was about the shittest non-Day 1 lynch reasoning ever. Someone with more time and ability may be able to determine more from the trains but I can't.

[Galain]

Path-Shaper, on 07 August 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

Night 6 is over, no one died.

Except Anthras (Roldom), who has been modkilled.

He was Sennosuke Masahara of Arai Castle.

It is Day 7. 31 hours and 59 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

No NKs again? WTF are scum playing here? This night should have taken us to D-Day more or less, depending on symps, but instead they drag it out longer.

[Galain]

Gnaw, on 07 August 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

It is Night 6. 3 hours and 13 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: Mockra, Anthras, Tellan, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Okaros, Trake, Alkend

Now I know this isn't you messing with the listing order to tell us who is scum, don't I? You're just doing it to screw with my head, right Gnaw?

[Shinrei]

Mafia manager has been doing all kinds of weird shit, don't ask me why.

This is why I never use it.

-Shin