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Posted 30 June 2013 - 04:08 AM

I hate it when I forget the details behind important plot threads, but for some reason my memory is foggy here. For the life of me I cannot remember why Phaed tried to kill Sands. I remember the scene very vividly, but the question has been nagging at me for some time and was wondering if someone who does remember could answer this question. On a side note I really enjoy the Tiste Andii plot thread and liked Nimander has a POV character. MODGOD NOTICE OF LATER BOOKS REFERENCES DELETED

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:19 AM

Main points

-Sher felt threatened by Sand as she saw her for the spiteful manipulative little shit she was
- She was crazier than a shithouse rat
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Posted 30 June 2013 - 05:44 PM

Uhm...I would edit the title of thread. SPOILER!
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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:56 PM

She doesn't like Sand. She's coarse and rough and irritating and she gets everywhere.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:32 AM

Just edited title. I guess that helps, but I was expecting a more detailed explanation. I guess I thought Phead may have actually had a good reason for her attemptive murder, but it looks like that isn't the case. Yeah, I know she's crazy and probably jealous, but I completely forgot what Sands was like or what sands did to make Phaed hate her so much. My memory tends to be quite poor when it comes to minor characters, but I remember events and even specific dialogue very well.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:55 AM

Phaed is damaged and paranoid, and living in a constant cornered-animal state, particularly after the slaughter on Drift Avalii...some might think of her as simply malicious and selfish (and IIRC Nimander hints that she's always had those qualities inside her somewhere), but mostly she's got a mental illness due to trauma that leaves her unable to trust anyone. She's absolutely terrified, and believes (delusionally) that Sandalath not only can see all this, but is actively trying to expose Phaed's deepest darkest fears to everyone else through deliberate slights. So Phaed aims to take her out before she is exposed...none of this is rational, mind you, but it is how Phaed's PTSD has manifested.

Unrelated: Not to be a nit-picker, especially as you were nice enough to edit your thread title in such a timely manner, but that mention of events in TTH (you tried to be vague, I know, and the enthusiasm is welcome) also probably shouldn't be in the RG forum.

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Anyway, hope that fleshed Phaed's motivations out a bit more.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 07:11 AM

There might be an alternative explanation if you have read the whole series.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:16 PM

There is a part in Bonehunters where Braven Tooth is talking to Banaschar and mentions that Phaed doesn't look like the rest of the Drift Avalii Tiste Andii and that Phaed told him she is Lady Envy's daughter, and Nimander is her father. This would also explain her irrational behavior, having half the blood of that nutty chick.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:13 PM

Thanks guys. That helped. I haven't finished the series yet.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:31 AM

What others already said.

Phaed has very severe mental problems and a distorted world-view that doesn't match up very well with reality.
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