[Path-Shaper]

More Fener/Monok:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

Here being Ceres now? It's a good spot to hang out - will get anyone travelling left-right or right-left. So you need to actually catch the right person on the tile, that sucks a bit. Much of my stuff has a respectable range. I have all the furies by the way, only slight bonuses to them. So I did 4 unblockable damage to Okaros last Dawn, he's not appeared on thread so I figure he's a dead loss, i.e. on holiday or some such. I'm currently targetting him again for another 4 points of damage (no range limit, woop. Alas, straight Fire so potentially blocked) tonight, I'm half inclined to switch to someone else though. Demlain has a good chance of fitting as the Tiam.Rashan master given my posting times sheet is now out in the open, any thoughts on the possibility of him being Queen? I'm sticking with the thought of taking the Queen down first, we don't know what potential her or her spawns have so really too soon to start picking off loyalists yet.

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Oh and smart on thread? I guess you're reasonably new then />/>

I'm Messremb FYI. This is my 3rd game, 1st majorly complicated one. And I'm in the deep end. Did I mention I can't swim?!

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

Come on, at least tell me your character name />/>

So, given that it is you contacting me, I assume that you were told Fener was your faction leader?

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 12:11 AM, said:

New or not, that graph with posting times is sick, and that code system you came up with for us to communicate is also brilliant. And you handle yourself well on thread, especially shrugging off that HUGE slip about Keepers. Anyway, I'll help defend you anyway I can.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 12:23 AM, said:

Heh, I initially devised it because I have no idea of the tells of people so figured that might be a way to alt them - I have been planning on trawling through Mafia 100 as a good guide to peoples post times since I started but haven't summoned the enthusiasm yet. That is a task for a week or three of holiday.

The code is something I had actually thought of the moment I started playing, I've never had a chance to put it into practice before. I've been RI up till now, eek. My two games I've garnered a Day 1 NK and a "I've gone to work and someone else has cleared the scum out before I get home" so first chance to really stretch. Rest assured all you reading this in SH later, I have many more cunning plans.. Mwahahahaha!

The Keepers was a huge mistake by me - I figured I was probably behind everyone else with no knowledge of the books (yes, you read that right) so was trying to make up for it from the wiki. Alas, seems no-one except Nimander has read them either. Notice how I've avoided talking about things from the books since? Yeah, I know nothing. Although there is the very handy http://en.wikipedia....iki/Codex_Alera and Google can let you peek inside some bits of the book(s) - hence my heads up when Tiam claimed Alera.

I was trying a reasonably subtle signalling the first couple of days too - lots of minor typos and keeping an eye out for anyone who is looking at me and reciprocating. Alas, only Liosan I think it was noticed and then took heat for it. Liosan is D'rek btw from the interaction with Gust. There may be an alt or two out there that was equally subtle, I need to chuck it all into a spell-checker which I should have done days ago.

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

Come on, at least tell me your character name />/>/>

So, given that it is you contacting me, I assume that you were told Fener was your faction leader?

I contacted you because you were the only one that gave away their position(when you thought you were going to be lynched). You told the whole thread you were headed to Ceres. So if I so easily found your tile, then someone else could have done the same. I was worried you may have been compromised, and I admit, I still can't be sure. But worst case scenario, even if we were to end up on opposing factions, we could still help each other until the end, and cross that bridge then if we have to.

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Liosan is D'rek? From the conversation with Gust?

I must have missed that. I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll keep it in mind.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

There's been a bit of tension between the two - i.e. Gust is banned from all D'reks future games I think from Mafia 100 meta. Gust also tends towards the analysis side of the game heavily so I had him pegged as Emurhlan early on. He's been moving house lately so likely not too much time to play on occasion. Can't think of anyone else who would strike such reciprocal sparks.

Path-Shaper: if you want to ignore these messages concerning players, please feel free to exclude the appropriate parts from SH.

You guys are allowed to talk about anything in this thread, but you may not publicly use assumptions about which alt a certain player may be playing in to build a case on thread.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Wasn't planning on that, rest assured. I have no old bones to pick over, was just explaining why I thought those alts were a safe bet for who they were. If we knew from the OP that GH was a Vord then by god we'd find some way round to build a case />/>

TBQH, I have freaking no clue about most of our faction. I'm a loose cannon shooting up all I can. Knowing Liosan is D'rek isn't going to help me there.

Thanks for your thoughts on thread btw, will be intersting to see what others think. I'm leaning towards the no side on it now, more than anything I get absorbed in the mechanics (as you may have noticed, Mr Mod for all games I've played...) and miss the bigger picture. Not to say I wont secretly roll it out again when multiple alts are involved, but I'll have to come up with a genuine reason then.

Edit: mods to alts in last sentence

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 01:05 AM, said:

So Monok, any thoughts as to likely faction members?

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 01:09 AM, said:

I'm going to resist the urge for further comments on thread now - if you want to wait for a break from me before posting much this is your chance. I'll be around for maybe an hour or so if there is anything you want to discuss in here, if not I'll be back at around 10/11am UK time (yes, the previous mention of time zones was a blatant fib, it is 02:09 here, I work unconventional hours.

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

Dude honestly, I feel clueless and useless. My role is actually pretty weak. I think randomly continuing to attempt to open a comm with others who have to be in range AND be part of my faction seems hopeless. I'm just going to attack Okaros tonight since you said he was low on HP, unless you're going to, or if you think we should lay off him now that we have new information.

For now I can just assist you if you want. Attack who you tell me to attack. Attempt to open comms on anyone you want me to test to be in our faction, and just help defend you on thread if needs be.

Besides that, I'm worthless.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

Welcome to my club. I've got reasonable attack strength (I think, having nothing to compare to) of 3, range of 2 on unfuried attacks, defence from attacks after someone with fire/water hits me, survival to 7HP so long as I get a heal. Based on my speculation earlier, might be worth a shot if you head to Alera Imperia? The roles I mentioned who are likely to have started there may well have returned. Or never have left. Although that does depend on if you target an alt or a character. I guess alt?

As I said before, if you think it worth throwing me under the bus, please do not hesitate. We are after all playing for our faction, not for us individually. Nimander put me top of his Rebel list on post #89, I'm not sure if that indicates that he knows I'm his leader or because he knows the books. Too many variables dammit.

Does your PM say what sort of bonus you get for being on your home ground? Just wondering if it is worth trying to draw our faction to the same tile, i.e. Kalere.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 01:42 AM, said:

Thank whatever deity you wish for Ultama. The compulsion to jump in and correct the apparent misunderstanding of the time over the holidays of Kedeviss was a great toll on my mental state

(note: this may or may not be attempting to lead people away form alting me in future...)

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 01:49 AM, said:

Throw you under the bus? Fuck that. It's my job to be the one to die instead of you. As far as how powerful you are, compared to me you are REALLY powerful. I can protect myself from water just like you, but not fire. And yes, being on Kalere bolsters my defense, but only slightly.

[Path-Shaper]

Last of the Fener/Monok convo:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

It might be worth some speculation as to scummy roles laying low on thread, if only to flush some of them out from cover. I can speculate, I'm a big target already if you'd rather not. The week long timeout modkill hiatus is a bit of a pest. Mockra had clearly been paying at least some attention to thread, given the slow Vord croach spread there's potentially a Queen out there who isn't playing to the max either.

I figure Barghast as a loss to the game, Galain, Hood, Kedeviss, Pran may as well be for all they're contributing, although Kedeviss has stepped up. This may well be down to them despairing at my play if they're on side and know who I am so I'm inclined not to NA them right now. There's a chance they're they equivalent of RIs here but I'm inclined to think minor-mid abilities and not likely to consider themselves needed. Lets face it, if you had a NK you'd hang around, right? Not to mention Loyalist being info-sided therefore having the juicier Dawn actions.

You mentioned communicating with allies, I assume you mean some of the First? We need to keep them fairly on side, although given our supposed strength we may well do without them, so long as we can knock the Loyalists down a peg or two before the Queen is out.

What range do you have on your attacks? I.e. same tile, or if you have a Wood Fury, Fire etc or are you limited to targeting someone on the same tile? So, in other words, what chance do you have of hitting Okaros tonight?

Edit: forgot qualification in the first para.
Edit edit: Total clusteruck of first-person nouns in first sentences.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 01:49 AM, said:

Throw you under the bus? Fuck that. It's my job to be the one to die instead of you. As far as how powerful you are, compared to me you are REALLY powerful. I can protect myself from water just like you, but not fire. And yes, being on Kalere bolsters my defense, but only slightly.

Yes, but you are a communication hub, therefore can rally the faction to an action. You have the potential to link between our (if any) finders (who, by now, should have a dossier full) and our attackers and communicate between them. This so beats the pants off my skills as to be unbelievable. Mafia is an information war, you are an information hub.

As an aside, you said someone else might also be a lover for me, any speculation from PM or thread as to who that may be?

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 02:24 AM, said:

Give me about 30 minutes. Didn't want you to think I had left. I have to drive to the store real quick.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

Oh dear god, they're back. Well at least they're not singing. Yet.

Emuhrlan, Gait, Galain, Kedeviss, Liosan, Okaros, Pran, Rhyll, Sheltatha, Tellan, Trake, Ultama. Possibles all. Crap. I can probably include a latest screen shot of my spreadsheet if you think it may be of use to you?

Seriously, does Ultama not sleep at all?

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

Great. I have no clue what so ever as to what is going on with these CFs and respawns. No wonder it's a TMDI 10+. Check out the Espers game. I wonder if there is a place for ghosts(dead alts) in this game. Anyway, caught your message. Brb and I'll answer those longer posts soon as I get back.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:08 AM, said:

Okay, I'm going to bail in approx. 5min. Just getting too late now. I'm half tempted to say something on thread, along the lines of "just to prove to you all how previous posting times can not be an indicator of future..." but I shall resist. I think Okaros just jumped up a place in my suspect list, he was in earlier and is now. So, to be sure of an answer, can you be sure of hitting him if you target him? If you're sure I'll target another, if not we'll both target him?

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:13 AM, said:

Right I'm out, catch you tomorrow

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

I'm back. I'm sure I can hit Okaros, but no telling the range, so I won't hit hard. But you said you hit him for 4 right? So unless he got healed, I should be able to finish him off no matter the range. We could both still target him, though.

I wonder what Tiam/Rash meant about what are the FA going to do if they wipe out the Vord. Wonder if they're trying to tell us something. Maybe they figure that if they're going to lose, then maybe they want to try to screw over the FA while they're at it. I'm quite confused.

I say Fuck it. Let's just try to survive for now. Let everyone else do the work for a while. We should try to play all sides against each other, pick off the weakest, and do a coordinated attack at the end for the win.

Heh. That's probably way easier to type than to actually get done. Ha. I don't know man. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. We should have a while to confirm our NA since the game is frozen.

As for when I said that about your other possible lover link, it was just wild speculation. I was trying to earn your trust. Like I said, I didn't want to just say "Hey, you can't confirm anything I tell you is true, but trust me fully!"

Sorry. I'm playing it close to chest. There's a couple other things I want to tell you, but I want to wait to make sure it can't be used against us in the long run. Let's just play it smart for now, help keep each other alive, and cross bridges when we come to them.

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

I'm inclined to still target him - there are Guards out there so better to be sure of a kill.

The FA will have completed their VCs and rather than declaring for a side I'd hope that they're going to play such that they vote for the best lynch. So stock up on good cases!

Agreed, survival is good. So long as we don't take too much flak on thread I'm inclined to target low posters with NAs if only to keep the number needed for lynches down, then our working together can have a greater impact on a train.

Monok Ochem, on 04 July 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

Ok, and I'll make sure to get on board the next few lynch trains. Also, that's a pretty smart idea you had on thread about the blue lines maybe blocking fire furies, etc..

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

FYI I'm on Alera for the coming day (Day 5,) will be on either Elinarch or Kalere the day after and back on Ceres Day 7 so if you need a heal I'll be close by to top you back up. My heals are worth 3.

[Path-Shaper]

Dawn 4 Results


Barghast – Bernard Calderonus – (Attack – Tellan)

Your target was in range.
You have been hit for 4 points of damage, leaving you at 3/7 HP.
There is 1 player on the Riva tile, including yourself.

Demelain - Antillus Crassus - (Attack – Trake)

Your target was not in range.
There are 4 players on the Elinarch tile, including yourself.

Emurlahn – Gaius Octavian - (Attack – Fener)

Your target was not in range.
You have been hit for 2 points of damage, leaving you at 1/10 HP.
Kitai has attacked Ultama.

Fener – Lady Invidia Aquitaine - (Attack – Okaros)

Your target was in range.
There is 1 player on the Alera Imperia tile including yourself.

Gait - Kalarus Brencis Minoris – (Fire Fury – Trake)

Your target was in range.
There are 2 players on the Ceres tile, including yourself.

Galain – Odiana - (Water Fury – Okaros)

Your target was in range.

Hood's Path – Sir Ehren ex Cursori – (Attack - Sheltatha Lore)

Your target was in range.
Demelain is a member of the First Aleran.

Kedeviss – Placida Aria - (Dianic League – Ceres)

The Ceres tile has been fortified.
There are 2 players on the Ceres tile including yourself.

Korbas – Kitai – (Attack – Ultama)

Your target was not within range.
Gaius Octavian has attacked Fener.

Liosan – Gaius Sextus – (Manifest Wind Fury)

There are 4 players on the Elinarch tile, including yourself.

Monok Ochem - Rook - (Water Fury – Self)

You have healed yourself for 2 points of damage, leaving you at 4/4 HP.

Nimander Golit – Amara – (Attack – Korbas)

Your target was not in range.
You have been hit for 5 points of damage, leaving you at 1/5 HP.
You have been hit for 2 points of damage, leaving you at 0/5 HP.
You are dead. SH password is pants. Please only post from your alt in SH.

Okaros – Aldrick ex Gladius - (No Action)

You have been hit for 3 points of damage, leaving you at 0 HP.
You have been healed for 4 points of damage, leaving you at 4/5 HP.

Pran Chole – Lord Kalarus Brencis – (Manifest Fire Fury - Nimander Golit)

Your target was in range.
There is 1 player on the Calderon tile, including yourself.

Rashan - Vord Taker - (Recruit – Gait)

Your target was not in range.


Ryllandaras – Vord Queen - (Attack - Emurlahn; Respawn Tiamatha as Warrior if she dies; Respawn Rashan as Warrior if she dies)

Your target was in range.
There are no players on the infested tiles.

Sheltatha Lore – Antillus Dorotea - 

You have been hit for 2 points of damage, leaving you at 2/4 HP.

Tellan – Fidelias – (Vamma - Gargoyle on Alera Imperia)

A Gargoyle has been placed on the Alera Imperia tile.
You have been hit for 3 points of damage, leaving you at 0 HP.
You are dead. SH password is pants. Please post only from your alt in SH until the game is over.

Tiamatha - Vord Taker - (Attack - Nimander Golit)

Your target was in range.

Trake – Isana – (Water Fury – Liosan)

You have been attacked by fire furies which raises a steam cloud around you.

Ultama – Antillar Maximus - (Fire Fury - Barghast) 

Your target was in range.
There is 1 player on the Alera Imperia tile, including yourself.

[Vengeance]

And the blood letting begins...

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 06 July 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

And the blood letting begins...

Yeah, now that people other than the Vord are dying, it's going to be interesting to see where Khell goes/what Khell does! Looking a lot like Korbas is gonna be next right now, which means bye bye Kitai.

[Starling]

D'rek was a good target for Khell, she has been on target all game.

[Starling]

Also, please can we silence Gnaw? He's been obnoxious all game.

[Path-Shaper]

Starling, on 07 July 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Also, please can we silence Gnaw? He's been obnoxious all game.

LoL, Gnaw's always obnoxious. It's how he plays!

[Starling]

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Starling, on 07 July 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Also, please can we silence Gnaw? He's been obnoxious all game.

LoL, Gnaw's always obnoxious. It's how he plays!

Doesn't make it any less obnoxious

[Path-Shaper]

Monok Ochem, on 08 July 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

Move to Alera Imperia

noted

V

[Path-Shaper]

Okaros, on 08 July 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Also, to whoever attacked me:

"You pinked me. No one's done that since Araris valerian. But you're not Araris. "

Hehe. He's dead.

Okaros, on 08 July 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Tiam/rash are khell, korbas is likely brujah

[Path-Shaper]

Korbas, on 08 July 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

Shit shit. Ceres or Elinarch?

Move to Ceres.

Attack Liosan

noted

V

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn, on 07 July 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 06 July 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Also, I see two infestation in Antillus, and I was hit for 2 last night. Maybe it's related. However, Vord shouldn't have been able to enter my tile. I'm assuming there's something else at play here... ranged hits/infestation... recruitment... IDK. But wanted to confirm that everything is accurate.

Only Vord Warriors cannot enter your tile.

Ah. Interesting. Well, I have no idea where Korbas is gonna go and I still can't really do anything so... I guess move to Alera Imperia using my fancy new road.

noted

V

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 05:10 AM, said:

Still deciding about what I want to do tonight. My attacks are useful because they give Korbas info about who I am not. But all I do is miss over and over. I can't really do anything about my own potential death tomorrow, especially if someone is going for me with fire, so the question is, do I use my potentially last action to attack someone and maybe do some damage to someone outside of my faction, or do I just anger the great fury in Alera Imperia to get it moved over halfway to kaboom?

I'm not worried about a Korbas being lynched. We have protection for now. Is that a 1-time shared lynch proof? Or is it permanent until we unlock our passives?

I went ahead and revealed about the secret message, too. Best case scenario, the person who sent it simply sent it to "Tavi" and will discover that I am Tavi without me having to reveal it.

1 time lynch proof.

V

[Path-Shaper]

Pran Chole, on 08 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

after I launch my immortals do I have to worry about them hurting me?

No they will not hurt you.

V

[Path-Shaper]

Sorry I was just going back and gathering the votes. Then fast forwarded and saw that you had already posted day.

[Path-Shaper]

All good! I didn't realize you were working on it, should have checked in here to see!

[Path-Shaper]

Gah, Mafia players are such a fickle bunch. I really wanna punch a bunch of people in the throat today...

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 June 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

If your faction meets their VCs before one of the Loyalists or Rebels has eliminated the other, then you will be announced as winners and you will leave the game. The remaining two teams will duke it out for second place.

Just FYI, not sure if it's different, but you just posted this on thread:

MOD NOTE - The First Alerans win alongside one of the other non-vord factions, not exclusively from them.

it conflicts with what you told me, above.

Well, you'll be the big winners for having completed your VCs first, but frankly, you're not meant to be competing against the other human factions, you're meant to be helping them find the queen while trying to complete your own VCs.

What I meant when I responded previously is that if you complete your VCs before one of the other human factions have met their VCs, then you will be taken out of the game. Frankly, it shouldn't really change the way you play either way. Complete your VCs, you win.

[Path-Shaper]

LoL - PS crosspost is funny, specially considering you're being nice and I'm being an ass.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 08 July 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

LoL - PS crosspost is funny, specially considering you're being nice and I'm being an ass.

It is good to change it up. Helps keep Mafia players honest.

V