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#961 User is offline   Trake 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

So we have confirmed Vord CFs, even if some of them are hanging around still. Likely they've respawned on their base tiles so we should only have a smallish number of alts at risk from the warrior tomorrow, those can no doubt take care of themselves or they wouldn't be stood where they are.

Alkends loss is hopefully a big blow to the Vord eliminating all others - without a recruiter they're going to find it much harder to get NAs in on other players. That's not to say they don't potentially have a second recruiter so we can't rest on our laurels.

Alkend voted on your train. Do you think his vote counted?

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

Also, Fener, roughly how many days are you from Elinarch?

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:24 PM

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

So we have confirmed Vord CFs, even if some of them are hanging around still. Likely they've respawned on their base tiles so we should only have a smallish number of alts at risk from the warrior tomorrow, those can no doubt take care of themselves or they wouldn't be stood where they are.

Alkends loss is hopefully a big blow to the Vord eliminating all others - without a recruiter they're going to find it much harder to get NAs in on other players. That's not to say they don't potentially have a second recruiter so we can't rest on our laurels.

Alkend voted on your train. Do you think his vote counted?



View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

Also, Fener, roughly how many days are you from Elinarch?




Considering the day one lynch, why would you even consider the idea that he'd answer either of those honestly?

Considering that you are on the list of people who could be an alt, why would you even consider that he'd answer either of those honestly?

Considering that Fener is not a vegetable, why would you even consider that he'd answer either of those at all?

Why should we all not immediately vote you for being a moron?

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:26 PM

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

So we have confirmed Vord CFs, even if some of them are hanging around still. Likely they've respawned on their base tiles so we should only have a smallish number of alts at risk from the warrior tomorrow, those can no doubt take care of themselves or they wouldn't be stood where they are.

Alkends loss is hopefully a big blow to the Vord eliminating all others - without a recruiter they're going to find it much harder to get NAs in on other players. That's not to say they don't potentially have a second recruiter so we can't rest on our laurels.

Alkend voted on your train. Do you think his vote counted?


I'm inclined to think he was one half of an alt pair - as a low post low content alt he could be the second to someone being more vocal or he could have been part of a low-post alt pair (or, indeed, triplet)

I'm inclined to give the other low posters I bought up before a bit of scrutiny but I'm going to be pushed for time shortly.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:26 PM

Oops, I'm a vegetable

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Oops, I'm a vegetable


I give you many points for speculating anything at this point.

You'd have every right to keep your head low and mouth closed. That you are not doing either of those is ballsy. Or stupid. Posted Image

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:33 PM

View PostUltama, on 02 July 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Oops, I'm a vegetable


I give you many points for speculating anything at this point.

You'd have every right to keep your head low and mouth closed. That you are not doing either of those is ballsy. Or stupid. Posted Image


Alas, long term it is more likely to be the latter. I considered laying low and thought bugger it, I'm here to play, not to hide in the corners.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM

View PostUltama, on 02 July 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

So we have confirmed Vord CFs, even if some of them are hanging around still. Likely they've respawned on their base tiles so we should only have a smallish number of alts at risk from the warrior tomorrow, those can no doubt take care of themselves or they wouldn't be stood where they are.

Alkends loss is hopefully a big blow to the Vord eliminating all others - without a recruiter they're going to find it much harder to get NAs in on other players. That's not to say they don't potentially have a second recruiter so we can't rest on our laurels.

Alkend voted on your train. Do you think his vote counted?



View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

Also, Fener, roughly how many days are you from Elinarch?




Considering the day one lynch, why would you even consider the idea that he'd answer either of those honestly?

Considering that you are on the list of people who could be an alt, why would you even consider that he'd answer either of those honestly?

Considering that Fener is not a vegetable, why would you even consider that he'd answer either of those at all?

Why should we all not immediately vote you for being a moron?

The first one is a matter of opinion and his answer is pretty much irrelevant to anything apart from helping out my musing.
The second one should obviously not be answered 100% honestly; however, Fener's ability to burn away the creep would be quite nice in a day or three.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:37 PM

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

The second one should obviously not be answered 100% honestly; however, Fener's ability to burn away the creep would be quite nice in a day or three.


Bear that in mind next time you jump on my train.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:42 PM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

The second one should obviously not be answered 100% honestly; however, Fener's ability to burn away the creep would be quite nice in a day or three.


Bear that in mind next time you jump on my train.


But also bear in mind that the flame thrower is only a claim at the moment. And who told us that it exists?

Sorry porky. But somebody was going to say it.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:43 PM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

The second one should obviously not be answered 100% honestly; however, Fener's ability to burn away the creep would be quite nice in a day or three.


Bear that in mind next time you jump on my train.

Woah, you still haven't forgotten that? Day One, man. Day One is full of crazy speculation and stupid lynches. Also, you're Fener.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:46 PM

View PostUltama, on 02 July 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

The second one should obviously not be answered 100% honestly; however, Fener's ability to burn away the creep would be quite nice in a day or three.


Bear that in mind next time you jump on my train.


But also bear in mind that the flame thrower is only a claim at the moment. And who told us that it exists?

Sorry porky. But somebody was going to say it.


Yeah true. It'll be proved either Dawn tonight or Dawn tomorrow now we have a not-totally-infested tile again. Not going to tie myself to a specific day as that'll make me too easy to locate.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:59 PM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

I don't know about the user of that ability for certain, but the one I used last night is extremely limited (it's worth noting it isn't my only ability, hence why it's weak). I can only see the total number of human characters on a single tile without alignment info; I can't get any information about Vord. I would thus suspect that they can only see the contents of tiles with humans already on them.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

View PostTrake, on 02 July 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

I don't know about the user of that ability for certain, but the one I used last night is extremely limited (it's worth noting it isn't my only ability, hence why it's weak). I can only see the total number of human characters on a single tile without alignment info; I can't get any information about Vord. I would thus suspect that they can only see the contents of tiles with humans already on them.

Or perhaps non-infested tiles.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. Timer is frozen with 34 hours remaining.

Players alive: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,)


Players not voted: Barghast, Demelain,Galain, Hood's Path, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Tiamatha

Tiamatha has been lynched. She was a Vord Keeper.

You guys lynched with 34 hours left on the clock.

It is now Night 3. I am going to say 2 hours left on the clock, to give me enough time to get everything together to resolve Night, despite what Venge said earlier about Night starting at the lynch.



Alright, some speculation:

There were 14 votes cast, but *only* 13 needed for a lynch. Meaning there was just one non-counting vote on the train. I am inclined to believe at this juncture that that one was Alkend's. If the pattern is the same for all multiple alts (which we can't verify, neither Tiam nor Rashan has voted), then that would mean that only one was on Tiam's train. I presume the Queen does have a vote, though, so they could be either on the train or off the train.

Edit: Changed the players not voted bit in the PS post, as it was very wrong.

This post has been edited by Ryllandaras: 03 July 2013 - 12:07 AM


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.


We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:20 AM

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.



View PostRyllandaras, on 03 July 2013 - 12:03 AM, said:

I am inclined to believe at this juncture that that one was Alkend's.



I'm very hesitant to make that assumption. There are too many alternative names that could be thrown in. (Including mine.) And Alkend would have to be fairly dumb to put a vote down on Tiamatha if he was an alt. No, he'd have had to be just plain stupid to do so. 12th vote. and timer had not even restarted.

and don't forget that there were actually 14 votes:

View PostMockra, on 02 July 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Vote Tiamatha, just in case.



Mockra's wasn't needed because Liosan's was the 12th valid vote.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:20 AM

View PostUltama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.


We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.



Alkend was an independent player with a non-counting vote? Or do you think someone else on the train placed a vote which didn't count?

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:24 AM

View PostUltama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:20 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.



View PostRyllandaras, on 03 July 2013 - 12:03 AM, said:

I am inclined to believe at this juncture that that one was Alkend's.



I'm very hesitant to make that assumption. There are too many alternative names that could be thrown in. (Including mine.) And Alkend would have to be fairly dumb to put a vote down on Tiamatha if he was an alt. No, he'd have had to be just plain stupid to do so. 12th vote. and timer had not even restarted.

and don't forget that there were actually 14 votes:

View PostMockra, on 02 July 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Vote Tiamatha, just in case.



Mockra's wasn't needed because Liosan's was the 12th valid vote.



I didn't forget the 14th vote. I said that in my previous post.

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