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#2481 User is offline   Gait 

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Count how many rebels there are.

6, one less than the number given on info day. because Tellan (?) died.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.




How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:14 AM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.




How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

None of the rest of us know each other. I don't think one comp with off-thread comm makes that much of a difference.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:32 AM

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.




How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

None of the rest of us know each other. I don't think one comp with off-thread comm makes that much of a difference.


If you are wrong then that could lose your faction the game, that's why I was asking for certainty.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:38 AM

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.




How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

None of the rest of us know each other. I don't think one comp with off-thread comm makes that much of a difference.


Honestly, if my role and galain's role weren't lovers it would be odd. Seeing as in the book, our characters are literally lovers.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:15 AM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

Oh FFS.





View PostUltama, on 10 July 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2013 - 01:16 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 10 July 2013 - 12:06 AM, said:

My gut says that Shellyis the queen, but my logical, paranoid side says that one of the higher, non-factionally revealed players are the queen. I'm inclined to trust my gut, but I'd like to hear other opinions before I vote for anyone.



Your guts wrong.



Glad I cleared that up. Posted Image


As for my play style, I think it makes sense in a faction game, especially in one where one is stumbling in the dark for the most part as I have been in this one. Pushing too much info on thread just paints big targets on you once the culture hunt begins, unless you have become convinced your faction has gained and holds a superior position.



You are saying you don't want to become a victim of a culture hunt while implying that you're part of the faction doing the culture hunt but that that faction shouldn't be culture hunting because they might number less than they think. Damn you're going to be a politician or an economist aren't you?




If I was a politician, I'd come back with something like "You're misinterpreting/taking my words out of context." But since I'm not, I'll come clean. Gait. You're an idiot.* All Hail Pran Chole.



I am Antillus Dorotea, according to my character wiki a child abusing bitch.







*if you're a rebel. If you're not a rebel, then good play.


Does Dorotea become a rebel in a book later than Cursors fury? I've been reading and am up to halfway done with that book as of now, and she's not a rebel at that point.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:20 AM

Dying thread is dying.

#2488 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

View PostUltama, on 09 July 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 09 July 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 July 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 6. 29 hours 30 minutes remaining.

Barghast has been modkilled for inactivity. He was the Loyalist Bernard Calderonus.

Players still alive: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama

8 votes to lynch. 8 votes for night.



Players not voted: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama


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Another non Vord bites the dust.

Somebody correct my math if I'm wrong please:

Dusk == Shuar
Night == Narash
Dawn == Shuar
Day == Elinarch

So lynching the overlord doesn't really gain us anything right? Unless somebody is stupid enough to move to Elinarch this afternoon, the army is essentially nonexistent as far as impact on the game for the next 4 phases?


Given that I am content with taking our fucking time today. We really need to hit the Vord queen. Even if she has an LP, which I suspect she will. That ratio is going to be completely out of hand tomorrow.


I saw this you are wrong, you would have to add another dusk and night and dawn I think, for example I got hit on Ceres I was making my way towards the Vord area to do battle, now if I move towards the Vord Prandick will take another lump of my life.

Dusk = Ceres
Night = Imperia Alera
Dawn = one of three tiles.

It all depends if Pran shares which direction he is going. He could pick Antillus as it seems that the Queen is there. It makes it difficult for us to attack the Queen without Furies because of the damn immortals.


Korbas, the evil overlord said that his immortals were headed for Narash. If they are it takes them 4 phases to get back to Elinarch.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostDemelain, on 10 July 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

View PostHood, on 10 July 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

Quick check before I'm leaving for work.
So we have 3 people left how have not revealed their faction yet: Demelain, Kedeviss and me. And then there is the question if Shellys reveal can be believed.

Of those three (I'm not counting myself, obviously) I'm leaning more towards Kedeviss for Vord Queen, but that is only gut.


I've also had some suspicions on kedeviss.

vote kedeviss

If all the reveal fest so far has been true the kedeviss is te queen


I think you're wrong there. But some pressure alway helps.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:



How about if we lynch loyalist or rebel they come back as Vord? So if we lynch wrong then it makes the Vord stronger?


Because there is nothing that I know of to imply that mechanism?

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostUltama, on 10 July 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

View PostUltama, on 09 July 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 09 July 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 July 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 6. 29 hours 30 minutes remaining.

Barghast has been modkilled for inactivity. He was the Loyalist Bernard Calderonus.

Players still alive: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama

8 votes to lynch. 8 votes for night.



Players not voted: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama


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Another non Vord bites the dust.

Somebody correct my math if I'm wrong please:

Dusk == Shuar
Night == Narash
Dawn == Shuar
Day == Elinarch

So lynching the overlord doesn't really gain us anything right? Unless somebody is stupid enough to move to Elinarch this afternoon, the army is essentially nonexistent as far as impact on the game for the next 4 phases?


Given that I am content with taking our fucking time today. We really need to hit the Vord queen. Even if she has an LP, which I suspect she will. That ratio is going to be completely out of hand tomorrow.


I saw this you are wrong, you would have to add another dusk and night and dawn I think, for example I got hit on Ceres I was making my way towards the Vord area to do battle, now if I move towards the Vord Prandick will take another lump of my life.

Dusk = Ceres
Night = Imperia Alera
Dawn = one of three tiles.

It all depends if Pran shares which direction he is going. He could pick Antillus as it seems that the Queen is there. It makes it difficult for us to attack the Queen without Furies because of the damn immortals.


Korbas, the evil overlord said that his immortals were headed for Narash. If they are it takes them 4 phases to get back to Elinarch.



Dusk == Shuar
Night == Narash
Dawn == Shuar
Day == Elinarch
Dusk = Ceres
Night = Imperia Alera
Dawn = one of three tiles.

We can move when it hits Dawn and he is in Shaur BUT I have to be careful where to move because then he will visit three places before the next movement action.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostUltama, on 10 July 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

How about if we lynch loyalist or rebel they come back as Vord? So if we lynch wrong then it makes the Vord stronger?


Because there is nothing that I know of to imply that mechanism?


So we have been lynching Vord? Ryll did seem sincere near the end there and he turned up vord. It's a strange one. I was thinking of CF manipulation.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostFener, on 10 July 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

[...] and Fener are claiming Loyalist. [...]


The fuck I am. You missed all that about me saying Rebels had screwed up with the collar? I'm a rebel. I've been collared by my own team because Trake thought I was on his side. How does it feel Gait, to know you've potentially screwed up vote majority after todays lynch because my vote is being dictated a day in advance by someone who clearly can't add up?

I thought this about as unsubtle an indication of my alignment as I could possibly give (in relation to the Immortals appearing):

View PostFener, on 08 July 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Catching up...

View PostUltama, on 08 July 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

That's just fucking great. If they can move two tiles at a time it is going to be a busy night in Alera Imperia.

The rebels decided to listen to Tia and Rashan. Goddammit. Never heard the "united we stand, divided we fall" thing??



What are you on about? For all you know this may well be a timed response that would have happened anyway. Do you know for sure that Kalarus is even in the game? If not, the plan is unlikely to be 'Grind Korbas into the ground' because that benefits no-one at the moment.

View PostOkaros, on 08 July 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

So... Bad news



That all depends on your POV, doesn't it.

View PostEmurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

It wouldn't surprise me if that is headed to Alera Imperia to make bad things happen.



Why would it be? Rebels have no need/interest in taking out the First, unless they side with the Loyalists. Vice versa too.

View PostUltama, on 08 July 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

So I'm back to a lynch vote of the 'possible'. If there is resistance to lynching somebody who hasn't been around in a week and a half, how are we going to manage a lynch on anyone?

The Rebel move with the immortals was a smart fucking move. For the Vord.



Again, might not be a Rebel move. Even if it is you can be sure the person behind it has been reading thread and knows exactly what is going down and has made their call based on it.



As for who I am, put two and two together:

View PostFener, on 09 July 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

I have a little of snippet of info gathered in the night I'll throw out before I finish my catch up in case I end up dead - Invidia Aquitaine (the big bad back stabbing rebel bitch) was targeted with a Discipline Collar last night. Strikes me as kind of a pointless move, but whatever floats whoever was behind its boat. No idea on the limits of the collar but I doubt it works as a full recruit. I imagine it may cast Trakes repetitive votes into a new light. No idea on the alt name of it though, just the character name.


(I'll suggest you read my PMs when SH is opened to you for why I thought I might be potentially ending up dead that phase.)

View PostFener, on 09 July 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

Demelain, Gait, Hood, Kedeviss, Liosan, Sheltatha are our non-confirmed alignments. Too many for slow lynches, NAs need to take them down as a priority too. And one of them is Gaius, therefore unlocking the FAs boosted powers, so tread carefully Pran.

Because my vote is being dictated by this lovely collar I have on, I do not give a fuck who it is because I have been given only one person I am allowed to vote for. I could have ignored it and lost my NA, but I'd rather have a NA to do what the hell I want with.

So, for no reason other than that it is being dictated to me by someone in my own fucking faction,

Vote Sheltatha Lore

I hope you're happy, that's one confirmed vote from your own faction put exactly where you want it. Now build your case and out yourself, bitch.

I'm out, I'll be back for next night. Till then the master of this slave collar can stick it up their own ass and swivel on it.


Can I be any less subtle about who I am? Really? I thought there was enough info on thread about me for anyone who has read the books to know my name from Day 2 on, clearly not.



As for my orders that are enforced on me, allow me to remind you, Gait, about my voting inclinations yesterday:

View PostFener, on 09 July 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

I think I'd prefer a Shelly, although if Ryll gets closer I'll switch there for the lynch - I'll be back approx. 15min before Day times out although I'll expect it to be Night already by then.

Remove Vote

Vote Sheltatha Lore



So you wanted to force me to vote for my prime suspect? Wow, thanks numbnuts.

Oh and that Kedeviss train that might be forming up? Well you'll have to do without me on it. Me, with the vote proved to count. Me, who gets my vote dictated to me based on the previous day. I won't be building cases, I won't be making helpful comments on thread (other than clearing up any major mistakes like above) because what the hell is the point? We find out who the Vord are and need a lynch on them? Well that's me out. Were I on another faction I'd be more amenable to going along with it, but for my own team to do it, stuff that. As you may have noticed, I'm obeying the letter of the collar instructions but you're not getting an easy ride bcause of it. You have, after all, tried to put a leash on Fener, the Boar of War. And your reveal? You did get told I can not vote how ordered at the cost of losing my NA if I say so immediately? So, you might want to come up with a better way of proving yourself to be who you claim to everyone else, you've fucked me over, I can return the favour.

Incidentally, with all these Loyalist fatalities, I wouldn't bank on the addition Day information again. The alt responsible has likely been wiped out. And they are the information faction. We're shooting blind, believing solo reveals with no corroboration.

First Alerans, you're going to potentially get your abilities unlocked next day, kick some ass will you? Unless of course the Vord hold each tile at infestation-1 until they're ready for a final grab.


@Ultama: I didn't mean we need to take lots of time on lynches, just that lynching people would be a slow way of knocking out contenders and likely make sure of the game as a loss. NA's have to be focussed on those alts above any faction agenda in order to whittle them down.

@Demelain: Well they've come back from the dead before, why should this time be any different? As I say, losing lynch ability looms...

@Gait: Go on then, build a case on Shelly, given that you're compelling me to vote for her. You must have had a reason, right?

Yes, I'm back for one post, because I can't believe some of this shit I'm reading.


Are you saying that Kedeviss won't get your vote because of the collar? Or that you wouldn't vote her even if you could?


I agree on the NA vs lynch. Without getting the queen this is the last day we'll be able to lynch.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

I haven't read the books Fener. So even if you are rebel my point above is that you are in a faction. My point is that the VQ can only be one of 4 players. Unless Okaros and Galain are lying to us? Do you think the rebels would have a lover connection?


At this point, I'm almost certain they are.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:53 AM

View PostGait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.




Well you're pappy didn't know they were. Not that that means shit.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:58 AM

What do you think of Demelain and is there anyway he can prove it?

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:11 PM

Things I've (re)considered:

The initial 2 alts not having voting power. Ryll getting ressed puts a large question mark on that assumption. So maybe some other form of voter manipulation.

Gait, the slave collar thing. Is there any way to prove today that it's you controlling it? Who have you used it on in the past and can you prove that?

Okaros and Galain. So far as I can tell all they've actually claimed is to be two characters in the book.

Liosan. I'd really like some proof of your loyalist credentials.

Ryll, you lying sumbitch. Anything to add to our deliberation? Sing a song with Tia.

With Fener's vote locked for the day, we're at 8/10 unless we decide that Shelly is lying.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostKorbas, on 10 July 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

What do you think of Demelain and is there anyway he can prove it?


Same as you. And don't know of a way. But he's also the one I considered as the more doubtful.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostUltama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

Things I've (re)considered:

The initial 2 alts not having voting power. Ryll getting ressed puts a large question mark on that assumption. So maybe some other form of voter manipulation.

Gait, the slave collar thing. Is there any way to prove today that it's you controlling it? Who have you used it on in the past and can you prove that?

Okaros and Galain. So far as I can tell all they've actually claimed is to be two characters in the book.

Liosan. I'd really like some proof of your loyalist credentials.

Ryll, you lying sumbitch. Anything to add to our deliberation? Sing a song with Tia.

With Fener's vote locked for the day, we're at 8/10 unless we decide that Shelly is lying.



You'll get them next dawn with another "who is where" update.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

either the first or second night I got a message from HP, that he could recognize FA and telling me fener wasnt FA.

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