[Ultama]

Path-Shaper, on 10 July 2013 - 02:09 AM, said:

It is now Day 6. 26 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players still alive: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama

FA: Korbas, Ultama

Rebel: Pran Chole, Gait, Okaros, Galain, Sheltatha Lore, Fener

Loyalist: Liosan,

Unknown: Demelain, HP, Kedeviss

[Ultama]

Liosan, on 10 July 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

Things I've (re)considered:

The initial 2 alts not having voting power. Ryll getting ressed puts a large question mark on that assumption. So maybe some other form of voter manipulation.

Gait, the slave collar thing. Is there any way to prove today that it's you controlling it? Who have you used it on in the past and can you prove that?

Okaros and Galain. So far as I can tell all they've actually claimed is to be two characters in the book.

Liosan. I'd really like some proof of your loyalist credentials.

Ryll, you lying sumbitch. Anything to add to our deliberation? Sing a song with Tia.

With Fener's vote locked for the day, we're at 8/10 unless we decide that Shelly is lying.

You'll get them next dawn with another "who is where" update.

Well, that means you'd best try not to die tonight.

[Ultama]

Demelain, on 10 July 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

either the first or second night I got a message from HP, that he could recognize FA and telling me fener wasnt FA.

How did you know it was HP?

[Ultama]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

Demelain, on 10 July 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

either the first or second night I got a message from HP, that he could recognize FA and telling me fener wasnt FA.

How did you know it was HP?

Be sure and run that question by PS before answering. I'd hate for you to get modkilled over it.

But if you're right it narrows the field significantly.

[Ultama]

Fener, am I correct in that I understand you to be saying that you were rebel, you were recruited by the queen, and now Gait has you collared?

Gait, does that collar act as a full recruit? i.e. what happens when you die?

[Fener]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

Are you saying that Kedeviss won't get your vote because of the collar? Or that you wouldn't vote her even if you could?


I agree on the NA vs lynch. Without getting the queen this is the last day we'll be able to lynch.

I was presented with a choice at Day start - My only vote can be on Sheltatha or I can refuse, vote where I want, and suffer no NA tonight as a consequence. Given the NA I can at least direct wherever I want and Shelly had been high on my list anyway I went along with it. I can attack 2 targets tonight. Losing my occasional twin unblockable unranged attack wasn't an option for me with this many suspects left so I had to go along with it. With a Shelly lynch we'd at least have one less and I could try and narrow down the field some more. Or take out the singing twits. The next day, IDGAF what the order is, my potential NAs aren't so juicy so I'll disregard orders if I get any regardless.

I'd vote Kedeviss as a likely remaining non-verified target⁽¹⁾, same as all others who have solo reveals. Gait can confirm via me - he gives an order or not, says what it is on thread and I confirm or deny it. That's one cleared. We need Demelains partner to back him up before he gets anywhere close to a PI still. Can you confirm it somehow via the message PS passed between your team? I'm still dubious about the Okaros/Galain partnership. There's a chance the recruited gets told the name of the recruiter, in which case many people have the potential to be the Queen.




⁽¹⁾Apart form the fact that due to Gait, I actually can't.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Start of Day Status Update

Narash
Infested

Shuar
Infested

Antillus
Infestation Counter: 0/11 (10 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Kalare
Infestation Counter: 0/10
Great Fury Counter: 1/20

There are 2 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Ceres
Infestation Counter: 0/18 (15 + 2 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.

Alera Imperia
Infestation Counter: 0/21 (20 + 1)
Great Fury Counter: 9/30

There are 3 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Phrygia
Infestation Counter: 0/16 (15 + 1)

Riva
Infestation Counter: 0/20

There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.

Aquitaine
Infestation Counter: 0/15

There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.

Calderon
Infestation Counter: 0/26 (25 + 1)
Thana Great Fury Counter: 1/30
Garados Great Fury Counter: 1/100

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

So, back to the tally from Day 4:
22 alts.
Rebel: 7 (1 have CF'd; Tellan)
Loyalist: 6 (4 have CF'd; Barghast, Monok, Nimander, Trake)
First: 5 (1 have CF'd; Emurhlahn)
Vord: 1 (4 have CF'd; Mockra, Ryll, Tiam, Rashan)
Missing: 3

Note I'm excluding alts that are dead before Day 4.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

Faction claims available (made), assuming the 3 missing were all Vord:
Rebel: 6 (Fener, Gait, Galain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Sheltatha Lore)
Loyalist: 2 (Liosan)
First: 4 (Demelain, Korbas, Ultama)
Vord: 0 ()

Players available: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Sheltatha Lore, Ultama

So, you see my problem here? Based on Day start detail we have Hood and Kedeviss between them vying for 1 loyalist and 1 FA positions. Now something doesn't add up - where is the Queen in this?

We have altered lynch CFs, if anyone was in any doubt.

[Korbas]

Which post did he say that in Ultama because I saw that somewhere, I saw that he said he was recruited or osmething on my phone but have lost it when coming back to the computer.

Vote Kedeviss

[Fener]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fener, am I correct in that I understand you to be saying that you were rebel, you were recruited by the queen, and now Gait has you collared?

Gait, does that collar act as a full recruit? i.e. what happens when you die?

No, I am rebel, I have not been recruited. Were I recruited and on the same tile I'd have a lover convo with her. The only action to hit me all game⁽¹⁾ has been a heal.



⁽¹⁾Apart from when someone made a mistake that they quickly rectified />

[Galain]

Korbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Gait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.

How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

sowing discord, eh

[Fener]

Demelain, on 10 July 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

either the first or second night I got a message from HP, that he could recognize FA and telling me fener wasnt FA.

Be specific, your life may depend on it.

[Ultama]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 July 2013 - 02:09 AM, said:

It is now Day 6. 26 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players still alive: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Ultama

FA: Korbas, Ultama

Rebel: Pran Chole, Gait, Okaros, Galain, Sheltatha Lore, Fener

Loyalist: Liosan,

Unknown: Demelain, HP, Kedeviss

It would be very, very helpful if people who can add credibility to somebody else's claim would do so. I've been certain of somebody who turned out to not be so many times this game. And we really need to get this right. IMnsHO.

[Ultama]

Fener, on 10 July 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fener, am I correct in that I understand you to be saying that you were rebel, you were recruited by the queen, and now Gait has you collared?

Gait, does that collar act as a full recruit? i.e. what happens when you die?

No, I am rebel, I have not been recruited. Were I recruited and on the same tile I'd have a lover convo with her. The only action to hit me all game⁽¹⁾ has been a heal.



⁽¹⁾Apart from when someone made a mistake that they quickly rectified />

Ok, got that. It was a bit confusing yesterday. What with me being so understated with my mild criticisms.

[Demelain]

I know it was HP, because it was signed, HP

[Ultama]

Galain, on 10 July 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

Gait, on 10 July 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 10 July 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Are you sure about those two Gait and you also belive Sheltatha's reveal?

I don't know about Shelly.
But Okaros & Galain make sense to my book knowledge.

How about from the OP, Rebels are meant to have more firepower, it'd be strange for them to also have off thread comms don't you think?

sowing discord, eh

So any proof you are who Okaros says you are? He coded your name into his day 1 post. That's not proof of anything. And being coy right now is a really bad move for nonVord.

[Ultama]

Demelain, on 10 July 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

I know it was HP, because it was signed, HP

hmm. Any other evidence you can/will offer that you're FA?

I was thinking it was Kedeviss and you. But you and HP could fit.

[Fener]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fener, am I correct in that I understand you to be saying that you were rebel, you were recruited by the queen, and now Gait has you collared?

Gait, does that collar act as a full recruit? i.e. what happens when you die?

I was rather hoping to be released from it if he died, were the game not so close I'd consider nuking the bugger just so I can vote as I see fit and still NA.

However, to confirm Gait, he needs to give me an order tonight, say it on thread after Day starts and I'll see what my PM tells me I'm being told to vote. This should of course not be said on thread by Gait, and, indeed, be *any* alt - proving you're on side is more important than a single NA of mine, we can hopefully deal without the vote for a day.

[Ultama]

Fener, on 10 July 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Start of Day Status Update

Narash
Infested

Shuar
Infested

Antillus
Infestation Counter: 0/11 (10 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Kalare
Infestation Counter: 0/10
Great Fury Counter: 1/20

There are 2 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Ceres
Infestation Counter: 0/18 (15 + 2 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.

Alera Imperia
Infestation Counter: 0/21 (20 + 1)
Great Fury Counter: 9/30

There are 3 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Phrygia
Infestation Counter: 0/16 (15 + 1)

Riva
Infestation Counter: 0/20

There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.

Aquitaine
Infestation Counter: 0/15

There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.

Calderon
Infestation Counter: 0/26 (25 + 1)
Thana Great Fury Counter: 1/30
Garados Great Fury Counter: 1/100

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

So, back to the tally from Day 4:
22 alts.
Rebel: 7 (1 have CF'd; Tellan)
Loyalist: 6 (4 have CF'd; Barghast, Monok, Nimander, Trake)
First: 5 (1 have CF'd; Emurhlahn)
Vord: 1 (4 have CF'd; Mockra, Ryll, Tiam, Rashan)
Missing: 3

Note I'm excluding alts that are dead before Day 4.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

Faction claims available (made), assuming the 3 missing were all Vord:
Rebel: 6 (Fener, Gait, Galain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Sheltatha Lore)
Loyalist: 2 (Liosan)
First: 4 (Demelain, Korbas, Ultama)
Vord: 0 ()

Players available: Demelain, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Okaros, Pran Chole, Sheltatha Lore, Ultama

So, you see my problem here? Based on Day start detail we have Hood and Kedeviss between them vying for 1 loyalist and 1 FA positions. Now something doesn't add up - where is the Queen in this?

We have altered lynch CFs, if anyone was in any doubt.

Or that list in the daily digest wasn't accurate.

[Fener]

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Or that list in the daily digest wasn't accurate.

That too.

Liosan, any idea if you were included in the extra Day information?


Edit: missed out the quote text

This post has been edited by Fener: 10 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

[Ultama]

Fener, on 10 July 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fener, am I correct in that I understand you to be saying that you were rebel, you were recruited by the queen, and now Gait has you collared?

Gait, does that collar act as a full recruit? i.e. what happens when you die?

I was rather hoping to be released from it if he died, were the game not so close I'd consider nuking the bugger just so I can vote as I see fit and still NA.

However, to confirm Gait, he needs to give me an order tonight, say it on thread after Day starts and I'll see what my PM tells me I'm being told to vote. This should of course not be said on thread by Gait, and, indeed, be *any* alt - proving you're on side is more important than a single NA of mine, we can hopefully deal without the vote for a day.

Being thorough here: what proof do we have that you are who you say you are? Gait says he targeted you with the collar and you voted the way he wanted. It does not necessarily follow that you did so at his 'command'. You could be shining him on.