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Timelords 3 - The Timestream

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:16 PM

It is now Day 1. 32 hours 18 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Rikkter: Korabas


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:17 PM

View PostDenul, on 24 February 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha



View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.


Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!


Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.


Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam


This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.


Erm nope, not totally random.

MO indicated he has multiple alts. The last time we had multiple alts was when Tiam and Rashan sung duets on thread. Tiam is playing, logically I voted for Tiam.

Day 1 joke vote. Christ, get a sense of humour.



Since you want to be serious, lets be serious.

We have 2 factions composed of identical numbers and characters. Epoch and Millenio being removed means we have two each of:
-King Sunday
-Queen Wednesday
-Lady Ete
-Mister Monday
-Sir Thursday
-Tertian

Based on previous games it is likely
-King Sunday has the ability to Time Shift (Epoch being the only other potential candidate for this)
-Mister Monday is a Guard
-Sir Thursday is a Vig
-Queen Weds or Lady Ete has a lover convo with the King (Ete more likely with the back story, although does raise an interesting point - can they be sure their lover is actually the correct version? So maybe Doppelganger Ete is actually talking to Original Sunday?)
-The other of Ete and Weds being RI
-Tertian has been a ninja before, think more likely to be RI this time

Now PS says Originals (I'm going to call them Originals and Doppelgangers from here on unless anyone has any terms they'd prefer) have an information advantage - I'd suspect this means some alts know who the real King Sunday is, or he knows who several real ones are and that roles remain balanced.

So, on to the big mystery, Domingo. Blend says it is based on the Voodoo Master from Mafia 87. A look in the spoilers there tells us that the summoning takes 1 blood sample from each faction plus a sample from a child and a zombie so potentially 5 actions needing to be completed to summon it. We have 2 factions and Domingo has already had contact with everyone so this is where whatever mechanic Blend has put in will fuck with our minds.

At the risk of scaring people, what if Domingo is a FM needing to take out say both King Sundays to absorb their time-displacing and summon Millennium?

TBQH I would expect Domingo to be playing quiet and low since he can coast to victory with *either* side or go for broke and try and take out everyone by summoning Millennium.

For that matter, if summoning Millennium is the only way to heal the time stream shouldn't we all be trying to help rather than bickering?

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:18 PM

So...Tiam hasn't posted yet but we have a vote and a remove on him within 45 minutes of each other for no apparent reason. Nice. Spicy already. Rikkter has some 'splaining to do.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:22 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 24 February 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

So...Tiam hasn't posted yet but we have a vote and a remove on him within 45 minutes of each other for no apparent reason. Nice. Spicy already. Rikkter has some 'splaining to do.


Read up dude

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:24 PM

And lo, he appears! With a big list. Who was it again that said scum love lists? Sounds like we can modify that to DOMINGO loves lists:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:


For that matter, if summoning Millennium is the only way to heal the time stream shouldn't we all be trying to help rather than bickering?


Er, really? So you're suggesting that Domingo's VCs, which are mutually exclusive to everyone else's (as opposed to everyone else's being inclusive of him), are something we should actually "try to help" even though no one but him will win? Yeah that sounds like "healing the time stream" alright...

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:24 PM

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:22 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 24 February 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

So...Tiam hasn't posted yet but we have a vote and a remove on him within 45 minutes of each other for no apparent reason. Nice. Spicy already. Rikkter has some 'splaining to do.


Read up dude


You read up bitch, we posted like less than a minute apart.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:27 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 24 February 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

And lo, he appears! With a big list. Who was it again that said scum love lists? Sounds like we can modify that to DOMINGO loves lists:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:


For that matter, if summoning Millennium is the only way to heal the time stream shouldn't we all be trying to help rather than bickering?


Er, really? So you're suggesting that Domingo's VCs, which are mutually exclusive to everyone else's (as opposed to everyone else's being inclusive of him), are something we should actually "try to help" even though no one but him will win? Yeah that sounds like "healing the time stream" alright...


*Sigh*

View PostPath-Shaper, on 11 October 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

“Domingo, you have already gone too far! Only a very talented Timelord can fix this. Only one who truly understands the time stream.”

“King Sunday?” asked Domingo, “he is the only Timelord left!”

“I’m afraid not. Only Millennium had the talent to do this thing. You have doomed us all!” Epoch looked down on him with contempt. His doppelganger had materialized by this time, and walked up behind him and, pulling a dagger from his belt, slit his throat.


Flavour. If you haven't figured it out by now, I like flavour.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:28 PM

Flavour is all well and cool until you start suggesting that we fulfill one faction's VCs....

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:33 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 24 February 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

Flavour is all well and cool until you start suggesting that we fulfill one faction's VCs....


Really? You seriously think I'm meaning "Lets all help the independent player that if he wins on his own VCs rather than our then we all die" rather than "Logically, both factions should realise the import to the world of restoring the time stream and work to fix it, however this is Mafia so there will be death and chaos in a world torn asunder"

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:43 PM

I'm out for 9 hours now, try not to come up with any more retarded theories

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:09 PM

Right. Fuck that shit.

I don't know about you guys but I'm voting every mother fucking coaster in this business.

We got thirteen players, potentially 4-5 chances to nail Domingo then the shitstorm can really begin.

the fact we get no CF means we simply accept after 5 shots if we all still around Domingos out the picture. Rather take the hunt to averages. 5 to 13 ain't great odds so coasters it is.

Got no clue how the fuck DDay calculations work on this but I'm pretty sure either team can handle being 4 ounces of dead weight down.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:11 PM

Shit, phrasing. We get the CF just not the Role. same fucking strategy implied.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:18 PM

View PostAlkend, on 24 February 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

Shit, phrasing. We get the CF just not the Role. same fucking strategy implied.


No quite. It means we know exactly when Domingo is out of the picture, since he has no doppelganger.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:29 PM

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 24 February 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha



View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.


Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!


Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.


Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam


This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.


Erm nope, not totally random.

MO indicated he has multiple alts. The last time we had multiple alts was when Tiam and Rashan sung duets on thread. Tiam is playing, logically I voted for Tiam.

Day 1 joke vote. Christ, get a sense of humour.



Since you want to be serious, lets be serious.

We have 2 factions composed of identical numbers and characters. Epoch and Millenio being removed means we have two each of:
-King Sunday
-Queen Wednesday
-Lady Ete
-Mister Monday
-Sir Thursday
-Tertian

Based on previous games it is likely
-King Sunday has the ability to Time Shift (Epoch being the only other potential candidate for this)
-Mister Monday is a Guard
-Sir Thursday is a Vig
-Queen Weds or Lady Ete has a lover convo with the King (Ete more likely with the back story, although does raise an interesting point - can they be sure their lover is actually the correct version? So maybe Doppelganger Ete is actually talking to Original Sunday?)
-The other of Ete and Weds being RI
-Tertian has been a ninja before, think more likely to be RI this time

Now PS says Originals (I'm going to call them Originals and Doppelgangers from here on unless anyone has any terms they'd prefer) have an information advantage - I'd suspect this means some alts know who the real King Sunday is, or he knows who several real ones are and that roles remain balanced.

So, on to the big mystery, Domingo. Blend says it is based on the Voodoo Master from Mafia 87. A look in the spoilers there tells us that the summoning takes 1 blood sample from each faction plus a sample from a child and a zombie so potentially 5 actions needing to be completed to summon it. We have 2 factions and Domingo has already had contact with everyone so this is where whatever mechanic Blend has put in will fuck with our minds.

At the risk of scaring people, what if Domingo is a FM needing to take out say both King Sundays to absorb their time-displacing and summon Millennium?

TBQH I would expect Domingo to be playing quiet and low since he can coast to victory with *either* side or go for broke and try and take out everyone by summoning Millennium.

For that matter, if summoning Millennium is the only way to heal the time stream shouldn't we all be trying to help rather than bickering?



What in the role of the Voodoomaster suggest to you that he is an FM? For adapting the role into this game, I think it's more likely that Domingo has to sample specific people or specific abilities. Since the Voodoomaster did so through being the first or the last person on a lynch train I think it would pay of to look at that. Unless you have more information . . . ?


As for flavour - maybe you shouldn't put it at a point where you claim to be serious.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:29 PM

View PostAlkend, on 24 February 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Right. Fuck that shit.I don't know about you guys but I'm voting every mother fucking coaster in this business. We got thirteen players, potentially 4-5 chances to nail Domingo then the shitstorm can really begin. the fact we get no CF means we simply accept after 5 shots if we all still around Domingos out the picture. Rather take the hunt to averages. 5 to 13 ain't great odds so coasters it is.Got no clue how the fuck DDay calculations work on this but I'm pretty sure either team can handle being 4 ounces of dead weight down.


Here. And bet this is our singleton. With a declaration that he'll be a low post, I wonder if Domingo will be anything but a low poster.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:45 PM

Nice information grab BO. Not much bitch or whine in it so kudos to you.

I have my reasons for calling a coaster hunt. Mafia averages support me. If you have an issue with it, setting me up as an alternative makes you as likely a singleton in my minds eye. Did I get under your collar and get you to start contributing falling out the coaster bracket? its Domingo we're looking for why would Domingo call for a hunt on Domingo when he could easily start laying cases on those actively hunting him as a priority?

Edit: BO... an unfortunate Abreviation if ever there was one....

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:48 PM

It is now Day 1. 29 hours 46 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Rikkter: Korabas


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:58 PM

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 24 February 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

Flavour is all well and cool until you start suggesting that we fulfill one faction's VCs....


Really? You seriously think I'm meaning "Lets all help the independent player that if he wins on his own VCs rather than our then we all die" rather than "Logically, both factions should realise the import to the world of restoring the time stream and work to fix it, however this is Mafia so there will be death and chaos in a world torn asunder"


No, it was just a really stupid thing to say after your massive list of supposed analysis. WIFOMing my comment into "WOULD I REALLY SAY THAT?" is also stupid. This is Mafia - no one gives a fuck about the time stream unless it helps them win. So basically you just fucked up, that's all.

NOW YOU FUCKED UP
NOW YOU FUCKED UP
NOW YOU FUCKED UP
YOU HAVE FUCKED UP NOW

There's some flavour for ya.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

View PostAlkend, on 24 February 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

Nice information grab BO. Not much bitch or whine in it so kudos to you.

I have my reasons for calling a coaster hunt. Mafia averages support me. If you have an issue with it, setting me up as an alternative makes you as likely a singleton in my minds eye. Did I get under your collar and get you to start contributing falling out the coaster bracket? its Domingo we're looking for why would Domingo call for a hunt on Domingo when he could easily start laying cases on those actively hunting him as a priority?

Edit: BO... an unfortunate Abreviation if ever there was one....


Sorry, did you really just say that anyone who disagrees with your low-poster witch hunt is Domingo? Talk about covering your ass and setting up lynches at the same time. I don't like it, sorry. Even if I agree about coaster voting, claiming that whoever votes you is the singleton just because you're not coasting is total bullshit.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:13 PM

View PostIparth Erule, on 24 February 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

As for flavour - maybe you shouldn't put it at a point where you claim to be serious.


Yeah, this is pretty much exactly what I meant. There's no jovial break between OMG HERE IS T3H BRAKEDOWN GUIZE SRS BSNS and GEE IF THE TIMESTREAM IS BROKE WHY DONT WE JUST LET DOMINGO FIX IT.

For a long post with no flavour, for Rikkter to take his FINAL comment and claim it was just random bullshit is suspicious, period.


View PostBek Okhan, on 24 February 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

View PostAlkend, on 24 February 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Right. Fuck that shit.I don't know about you guys but I'm voting every mother fucking coaster in this business. We got thirteen players, potentially 4-5 chances to nail Domingo then the shitstorm can really begin. the fact we get no CF means we simply accept after 5 shots if we all still around Domingos out the picture. Rather take the hunt to averages. 5 to 13 ain't great odds so coasters it is.Got no clue how the fuck DDay calculations work on this but I'm pretty sure either team can handle being 4 ounces of dead weight down.


Here. And bet this is our singleton. With a declaration that he'll be a low post, I wonder if Domingo will be anything but a low poster.



View PostAlkend, on 24 February 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

Nice information grab BO. Not much bitch or whine in it so kudos to you.

I have my reasons for calling a coaster hunt. Mafia averages support me. If you have an issue with it, setting me up as an alternative makes you as likely a singleton in my minds eye. Did I get under your collar and get you to start contributing falling out the coaster bracket? its Domingo we're looking for why would Domingo call for a hunt on Domingo when he could easily start laying cases on those actively hunting him as a priority?

Edit: BO... an unfortunate Abreviation if ever there was one....


Am I reading this right? I'm pretty sure that Bek just called YOU the singleton, Alkend, based on your Great Coaster Hunt idea. And then you compliment him on the "info grab"....and then you compliment him for not bitching or whining either, which you've been doing both of. Trying to smooth things over after Bek pinned you down?

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