Timelords 3 - The Timestream
#401
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:23 AM
I'm not saying Denul used a Mimic ability. I think someone does have that ability, though.
Denul is who he showed the first time. He was already saved once. If we lynch him, he will probably be saved again. I think it's a waste of time to focus on Denul.
Denul is who he showed the first time. He was already saved once. If we lynch him, he will probably be saved again. I think it's a waste of time to focus on Denul.
#402
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:26 AM
Tiamatha, on 01 March 2014 - 05:23 AM, said:
I'm not saying Denul used a Mimic ability. I think someone does have that ability, though.
Denul is who he showed the first time. He was already saved once. If we lynch him, he will probably be saved again. I think it's a waste of time to focus on Denul.
Denul is who he showed the first time. He was already saved once. If we lynch him, he will probably be saved again. I think it's a waste of time to focus on Denul.
Post. With. Implications.
I'm going to let it sit for a bit before I comment.
#403
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:26 AM
I would have preferred Eloth, but it may be that someone didn't want me voting for Eloth. I just hope that someone isn't being fooled.
#404
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
#405
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:30 AM
#406
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:32 AM
Tiam....if you're saying what I think you're saying, why are you voting for Korabas?
#407
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:38 AM
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
First, you are really equivocating. This is getting odder and odder. Based on Tiam's comments, the Denul lynch doesn't JUST confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist.
Also how is a Korabas lynch safe? I'll be totally honest, I don't have a solid read on Korabas and I can't place her faction (unlike I can place Denul's). Why would I go for a shot in the dark instead of someone who revealed finder against me? If the Timelords are going to keep resurrecting people, let them, we can't predict what they'll do. Let them waste their limited time shifts. At this point putting pressure on Korabas doesn't seem to be useful if we have 4 hours left and little or no reason from the evidence on thread to be sure of Korabas as a target.
#408
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:46 AM
Ok, here it is cut and dry.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
#409
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:48 AM
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
First, you are really equivocating. This is getting odder and odder. Based on Tiam's comments, the Denul lynch doesn't JUST confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist.
Also how is a Korabas lynch safe? I'll be totally honest, I don't have a solid read on Korabas and I can't place her faction (unlike I can place Denul's). Why would I go for a shot in the dark instead of someone who revealed finder against me? If the Timelords are going to keep resurrecting people, let them, we can't predict what they'll do. Let them waste their limited time shifts. At this point putting pressure on Korabas doesn't seem to be useful if we have 4 hours left and little or no reason from the evidence on thread to be sure of Korabas as a target.
Several things here I don't get. Why is korabas a her to you? go for Denul who is in a faction you know about? I don't know if Denul is in my faction nor am I sure you are in my faction. You seem the only one on thread aware of things like this and I cant place a bet on someone you know and I do not.
This talk of wasting limited time shifts really sets you up. don't be so reckless with your wording. I am starting to really hope you aren't my TL. that alone has you set up in my head as a person with above and beyond common knowledge. Lying about it makes me distrust you aswell.
Alright look, quid quo pro. You vote in Korabas, prove to me you aren't linked and I'll trust you enough to vote Denul as many times as you wish. its just so pointless to me but you seem convinced so I'll humor you. This game is about winning. I see this as a winnowing tactic, clever in my opinion but only to the minority.
#410
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:51 AM
Tiamatha, on 01 March 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:
Ok, here it is cut and dry.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
Which makes you the other Tertian, correct?
#411
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:53 AM
That joke vote from Rikkter on day 1 allowed him to have a temporary lover's link with me.
Of course he lied about who he was, but he told some truths. I just don't know what is entirely true, and what is BS.
Of course he lied about who he was, but he told some truths. I just don't know what is entirely true, and what is BS.
#412
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:54 AM
Tiamatha, on 01 March 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:
Ok, here it is cut and dry.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
I think Denul is our Tertian, but if I'm wrong, it could be big.
Denul's lynch will unlock his suicide vig. He will then use it on various people while we go through another round of time lord time changes until he hits the other time lord.
If he's mine, and I think he is,then good. I'm not risking it, though.
Can you explain this in the context of his Finder reveal? Otherwise you're saying that the Jester, the lowest member of both factions, has a suicide vig that activates on lynch but not on an NK and also happens to be a Finder. That doesn't sound right to me. What am I missing from this picture?
#413
Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:59 AM
I have no idea if his role is a finder. Maybe he's a finder, and Rikkter was making stuff up.
I have to goto work. I'll be back later.
I have to goto work. I'll be back later.
#414
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:02 AM
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:48 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
First, you are really equivocating. This is getting odder and odder. Based on Tiam's comments, the Denul lynch doesn't JUST confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist.
Also how is a Korabas lynch safe? I'll be totally honest, I don't have a solid read on Korabas and I can't place her faction (unlike I can place Denul's). Why would I go for a shot in the dark instead of someone who revealed finder against me? If the Timelords are going to keep resurrecting people, let them, we can't predict what they'll do. Let them waste their limited time shifts. At this point putting pressure on Korabas doesn't seem to be useful if we have 4 hours left and little or no reason from the evidence on thread to be sure of Korabas as a target.
Several things here I don't get. Why is korabas a her to you? go for Denul who is in a faction you know about? I don't know if Denul is in my faction nor am I sure you are in my faction. You seem the only one on thread aware of things like this and I cant place a bet on someone you know and I do not.
This talk of wasting limited time shifts really sets you up. don't be so reckless with your wording. I am starting to really hope you aren't my TL. that alone has you set up in my head as a person with above and beyond common knowledge. Lying about it makes me distrust you aswell.
Alright look, quid quo pro. You vote in Korabas, prove to me you aren't linked and I'll trust you enough to vote Denul as many times as you wish. its just so pointless to me but you seem convinced so I'll humor you. This game is about winning. I see this as a winnowing tactic, clever in my opinion but only to the minority.
Because Korabas is a female dragon in Malazan lore.

Most of the time shifts have seemed like a waste or semi-random to me. I don't have a read on why the Timelords are moving time the way they are. So I'm not basing my play on what they might or might not do at the moment...seems to me they could do anything, regardless of who's lynched and who dies. And what am I lying about?
Finally, are you saying you want me to help you LYNCH Korabas, or just vote and remove? And then you'll lynch Denul? I don't know what this proves or why we would do this. I can hardly comment on the rest because it's too loaded.
#415
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:04 AM
Tiamatha, on 01 March 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:
I have no idea if his role is a finder. Maybe he's a finder, and Rikkter was making stuff up.
I have to goto work. I'll be back later.
I have to goto work. I'll be back later.
Later as in, before timeout?
I guess part of me is just dumbfounded that we have a finder reveal that no one has countered, the finder hasn't appeared again since revealing, and we are pretending it didn't happen.
#416
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:21 AM
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 06:02 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:48 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
First, you are really equivocating. This is getting odder and odder. Based on Tiam's comments, the Denul lynch doesn't JUST confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist.
Also how is a Korabas lynch safe? I'll be totally honest, I don't have a solid read on Korabas and I can't place her faction (unlike I can place Denul's). Why would I go for a shot in the dark instead of someone who revealed finder against me? If the Timelords are going to keep resurrecting people, let them, we can't predict what they'll do. Let them waste their limited time shifts. At this point putting pressure on Korabas doesn't seem to be useful if we have 4 hours left and little or no reason from the evidence on thread to be sure of Korabas as a target.
Several things here I don't get. Why is korabas a her to you? go for Denul who is in a faction you know about? I don't know if Denul is in my faction nor am I sure you are in my faction. You seem the only one on thread aware of things like this and I cant place a bet on someone you know and I do not.
This talk of wasting limited time shifts really sets you up. don't be so reckless with your wording. I am starting to really hope you aren't my TL. that alone has you set up in my head as a person with above and beyond common knowledge. Lying about it makes me distrust you aswell.
Alright look, quid quo pro. You vote in Korabas, prove to me you aren't linked and I'll trust you enough to vote Denul as many times as you wish. its just so pointless to me but you seem convinced so I'll humor you. This game is about winning. I see this as a winnowing tactic, clever in my opinion but only to the minority.
Because Korabas is a female dragon in Malazan lore.

Most of the time shifts have seemed like a waste or semi-random to me. I don't have a read on why the Timelords are moving time the way they are. So I'm not basing my play on what they might or might not do at the moment...seems to me they could do anything, regardless of who's lynched and who dies. And what am I lying about?
Finally, are you saying you want me to help you LYNCH Korabas, or just vote and remove? And then you'll lynch Denul? I don't know what this proves or why we would do this. I can hardly comment on the rest because it's too loaded.
Alright good. I like that response.
I think you're lying about not being connected to Korabas. You say you know exactly who two people are. Denul and one other person. If I look at the other names and such like Tiam, I find an occasion where you call Tiam a guy. Thats pretty inconsistent but I'll give you your point on this anyways.
You have not said who it is you're linked to and I've been watching your activity. To me it looks like you are leading us away from a lynch on Korabas who is important and It looks like Korabas is leading a lynch away from you who I thought was the one more important.
Your actions make more sense to me if
A ) you are linked to Korabas and
B ) a lynch on Korabas is game over, or points to you in a Game over kind of way.
So I figured if you aren't linked to Korabas and as you claim would not know Korabas from a bar of soap you'd join the lynch train against her. I have no problems following you on lynches after because then my readings on you are wrong and Its up to the players in the know to convince me otherwise. Also if Korabas aint on your side and I am we get to know who and what Korabas is. all this being blind shit annoys me. If she is on our side then I suppose we're looking good either way. my point is I need to know shit and everything you suggest isn't getting me any wiser on my suspicions. at best we figure out Tertian can or cannot vig. why tease a bear trap when we can get going on more logical hunts? Tiam has really divulged alot to get us on the Korabas train. Theres something there and you aren't acknowledging it. My biggest question is why and I know a lynch in this direction will tell me and everyone else wondering what it is you are or aren't up to.
#417
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:30 AM
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 06:21 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 06:02 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:48 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:
Alkend, on 01 March 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:
Galayn Lord, on 01 March 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:
Plus, look at these abilities -
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
Sunday - Timelord, shifts time, etc.
Wednesday - probably a lover with one of the Sundays
Ete - probably a lover with the Sunday that Wednesday is not a lover with
Monday - guard
Thursday - vig
Tertian - Finder? Mimic? RI?
Is it possible that either Wed/Ete have the Mimic ability, based on Tiam's post which reveals suspicion on Wed/Ete and announces this Mimic ability at the same time? Too many abilities would make this game OP, and with Tertian so low on the totem pole in terms of game setup, I doubt he has two powerful abilities. If anything, Wed/Ete might have Mimic and/or Lover, and Tertian has the Finder role, based on Denul's reveal. If Denul isn't Tertian due to Mimic, he's got to be Wednesday or Ete, because Finder + Mimic is already a really powerful combo. And that means Tertian would have to be RI or something because there are no abilities left. So I still think Denul is a true finder; we'll only know his real CF if we lynch him, assuming Mimic isn't complete bullshit.
What about the vig?
Can't the vig have the mimic?
Nope.
Plus, I am of the mind that combining Mimic with almost any other ability makes that role overpowered. The abilities of guard, vig, and Timelord seem to have stayed the same through all games, and vig and guard are very standard roles. The only role I could genuinely suspect of having Mimic + X is where X = Lover. This would line up with information/misinformation, making Mimic almost a negative thing - because the Lover would be talking to Sunday, saying things, and then CF as someone totally different. That would be a useful and confusing game mechanic that I see Blend's name on. Anything else is overreaching the bounds of power, imo.
Ok then again I have to say:
Times running out and theres no handle on this supposed mimic. Galayn or Korabas were better choices than a known Tertian. I think Tiam knows something and I'm following it. Nothing links Denul, if he gets brought back we learn nothing. More important CFs are absent and i just see a vote to confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist as a ridiculous waste.
A lynch on Korabas is safe to me because I'm certain Galayn you are important or linked to someone important. I am certain Tiam links this mimic mechanic to either Korabas or someone connected to Korabas. the TL can save Korabas. Galayn acting like Korabas is not important to you raises my suspicions in this case. If your faction has majority the more CFs we get linked to you the better chances we have at guiding votes for a win. I'd like something from the TLs to confirm where things stand. Putting pressure on Korabas will force the player with the knowledge and thats what we should aim for.
First, you are really equivocating. This is getting odder and odder. Based on Tiam's comments, the Denul lynch doesn't JUST confirm a mechanic that may or may not exist.
Also how is a Korabas lynch safe? I'll be totally honest, I don't have a solid read on Korabas and I can't place her faction (unlike I can place Denul's). Why would I go for a shot in the dark instead of someone who revealed finder against me? If the Timelords are going to keep resurrecting people, let them, we can't predict what they'll do. Let them waste their limited time shifts. At this point putting pressure on Korabas doesn't seem to be useful if we have 4 hours left and little or no reason from the evidence on thread to be sure of Korabas as a target.
Several things here I don't get. Why is korabas a her to you? go for Denul who is in a faction you know about? I don't know if Denul is in my faction nor am I sure you are in my faction. You seem the only one on thread aware of things like this and I cant place a bet on someone you know and I do not.
This talk of wasting limited time shifts really sets you up. don't be so reckless with your wording. I am starting to really hope you aren't my TL. that alone has you set up in my head as a person with above and beyond common knowledge. Lying about it makes me distrust you aswell.
Alright look, quid quo pro. You vote in Korabas, prove to me you aren't linked and I'll trust you enough to vote Denul as many times as you wish. its just so pointless to me but you seem convinced so I'll humor you. This game is about winning. I see this as a winnowing tactic, clever in my opinion but only to the minority.
Because Korabas is a female dragon in Malazan lore.

Most of the time shifts have seemed like a waste or semi-random to me. I don't have a read on why the Timelords are moving time the way they are. So I'm not basing my play on what they might or might not do at the moment...seems to me they could do anything, regardless of who's lynched and who dies. And what am I lying about?
Finally, are you saying you want me to help you LYNCH Korabas, or just vote and remove? And then you'll lynch Denul? I don't know what this proves or why we would do this. I can hardly comment on the rest because it's too loaded.
Alright good. I like that response.
I think you're lying about not being connected to Korabas. You say you know exactly who two people are. Denul and one other person. If I look at the other names and such like Tiam, I find an occasion where you call Tiam a guy. Thats pretty inconsistent but I'll give you your point on this anyways.
You have not said who it is you're linked to and I've been watching your activity. To me it looks like you are leading us away from a lynch on Korabas who is important and It looks like Korabas is leading a lynch away from you who I thought was the one more important.
Your actions make more sense to me if
A ) you are linked to Korabas and
B ) a lynch on Korabas is game over, or points to you in a Game over kind of way.
So I figured if you aren't linked to Korabas and as you claim would not know Korabas from a bar of soap you'd join the lynch train against her. I have no problems following you on lynches after because then my readings on you are wrong and Its up to the players in the know to convince me otherwise. Also if Korabas aint on your side and I am we get to know who and what Korabas is. all this being blind shit annoys me. If she is on our side then I suppose we're looking good either way. my point is I need to know shit and everything you suggest isn't getting me any wiser on my suspicions. at best we figure out Tertian can or cannot vig. why tease a bear trap when we can get going on more logical hunts? Tiam has really divulged alot to get us on the Korabas train. Theres something there and you aren't acknowledging it. My biggest question is why and I know a lynch in this direction will tell me and everyone else wondering what it is you are or aren't up to.
Ok. Let me think about this for a minute.
#418
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:49 AM
Ok, I agree, I've changed my mind.
Remove Vote
Vote Korabas
Remove Vote
Vote Korabas
#419
Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:55 AM
It is Day 2. 2 hours 30 minutes remaining.
11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha
6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.
1 vote Galayn Lord: Denul
2 votes Denul: Korabas, Lock
3 votes Korabas: Tiamatha, Alkend, Galayn Lord
Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem
11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha
6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.
1 vote Galayn Lord: Denul
2 votes Denul: Korabas, Lock
3 votes Korabas: Tiamatha, Alkend, Galayn Lord
Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem
This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 01 March 2014 - 07:16 AM
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#420
Posted 01 March 2014 - 07:06 AM
Path-Shaper, on 01 March 2014 - 05:11 AM, said:
It is Day 2. 4 hours 14 minutes remaining.
11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha
6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.
1 vote Galayn Lord: Denul
4 votes Denul: Korabas, Galayn Lord, Bek Okhan, Lock
2 votes Korabas: Tiamatha, Alkend
Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem
11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha
6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.
1 vote Galayn Lord: Denul
4 votes Denul: Korabas, Galayn Lord, Bek Okhan, Lock
2 votes Korabas: Tiamatha, Alkend
Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem
Am I just too drunk to use math, but do the timestamps and time left in the day match up with the most recent P-S update?