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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:41 PM

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

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The reason why I dropped my vote on Atrahal last night was because:

1) I do find his voting patterns scummy
2) False symping of shadow as I said in the beginning of the game. I think that made Shadow seem much more scummy to the rest of us than if Atrahal hadn't lead off the game with his whole "Shadow fax" nonsense
3) If Kara were scum, I think he would have immediately brought Atrahal to L1.
4) Hanas that crackheaded fucktard hasn't voted him, and I think Hanas has acted decidedly symplike.

It's the best that I've got, but I think that Atrahal is most likely scum.


I have enough posts out there for you to make a case. look at what we are all doing d day, looking for scum. look at what you are doing, speculation.

Voting patterns scummy, how why? Being first on a train is not as scummy as being the hammer with 3 hours to go, or removing from a lynch target to another player when a lynch train is underway. Have you voted properly since day one? No. Fact.

False symping? What killer would do such a thing, I brought it up in my last few posts, have you replied to that? No. Scummy.

Why do you think Kara would just vote for me? He actually has a brain. He wouldn't just thrown down a vote like that, see his removal from Shadow so that scum couldn't hammer then?

Hanas is scum. Is the symp. He voted night after you thought tiam was the symp, both you and Galayn where on thread at the time.

You haven't got a best because you are scum and you cannot find a proper reason to vote for me that sticks.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:47 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

@Korlat

The reason why I dropped my vote on Atrahal last night was because:

1) I do find his voting patterns scummy
2) False symping of shadow as I said in the beginning of the game. I think that made Shadow seem much more scummy to the rest of us than if Atrahal hadn't lead off the game with his whole "Shadow fax" nonsense
3) If Kara were scum, I think he would have immediately brought Atrahal to L1.
4) Hanas that crackheaded fucktard hasn't voted him, and I think Hanas has acted decidedly symplike.

It's the best that I've got, but I think that Atrahal is most likely scum.


I have enough posts out there for you to make a case. look at what we are all doing d day, looking for scum. look at what you are doing, speculation.

Voting patterns scummy, how why? Being first on a train is not as scummy as being the hammer with 3 hours to go, or removing from a lynch target to another player when a lynch train is underway. Have you voted properly since day one? No. Fact.

False symping? What killer would do such a thing, I brought it up in my last few posts, have you replied to that? No. Scummy.

Why do you think Kara would just vote for me? He actually has a brain. He wouldn't just thrown down a vote like that, see his removal from Shadow so that scum couldn't hammer then?

Hanas is scum. Is the symp. He voted night after you thought tiam was the symp, both you and Galayn where on thread at the time.

You haven't got a best because you are scum and you cannot find a proper reason to vote for me that sticks.


This certainty makes my teeth ache. If you're so certain Hanas is scum, why not vote him off and give us an extra day to figure out which of us is scum?

At this point, I'm willing to leave off on Atrahal, he's making an effort to help us find scum. So, how do the rest of you feel about voting out Hanas?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 13 June 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

@Korlat

The reason why I dropped my vote on Atrahal last night was because:

1) I do find his voting patterns scummy
2) False symping of shadow as I said in the beginning of the game. I think that made Shadow seem much more scummy to the rest of us than if Atrahal hadn't lead off the game with his whole "Shadow fax" nonsense
3) If Kara were scum, I think he would have immediately brought Atrahal to L1.
4) Hanas that crackheaded fucktard hasn't voted him, and I think Hanas has acted decidedly symplike.

It's the best that I've got, but I think that Atrahal is most likely scum.


I have enough posts out there for you to make a case. look at what we are all doing d day, looking for scum. look at what you are doing, speculation.

Voting patterns scummy, how why? Being first on a train is not as scummy as being the hammer with 3 hours to go, or removing from a lynch target to another player when a lynch train is underway. Have you voted properly since day one? No. Fact.

False symping? What killer would do such a thing, I brought it up in my last few posts, have you replied to that? No. Scummy.

Why do you think Kara would just vote for me? He actually has a brain. He wouldn't just thrown down a vote like that, see his removal from Shadow so that scum couldn't hammer then?

Hanas is scum. Is the symp. He voted night after you thought tiam was the symp, both you and Galayn where on thread at the time.

You haven't got a best because you are scum and you cannot find a proper reason to vote for me that sticks.


This certainty makes my teeth ache. If you're so certain Hanas is scum, why not vote him off and give us an extra day to figure out which of us is scum?

At this point, I'm willing to leave off on Atrahal, he's making an effort to help us find scum. So, how do the rest of you feel about voting out Hanas?


Please go through those posts with bullet points, they are not false, yet they have some of my thoughts beside them. Am I just making shit up? There is a slight possibility that Hanas is not the symp, which from my notes would point at that being Desra. We know Hanas cannot be a killer. He will be CI tomorrow if the game continues. So we have to get it right today. My thought are up to and just after the reveal, we have the most information from those first few days. One of Korlat and Cast are scum from my analysis. I have bean butting heads with you all game long but I looked through objectively.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

@Korlat

The reason why I dropped my vote on Atrahal last night was because:

1) I do find his voting patterns scummy
2) False symping of shadow as I said in the beginning of the game. I think that made Shadow seem much more scummy to the rest of us than if Atrahal hadn't lead off the game with his whole "Shadow fax" nonsense
3) If Kara were scum, I think he would have immediately brought Atrahal to L1.
4) Hanas that crackheaded fucktard hasn't voted him, and I think Hanas has acted decidedly symplike.

It's the best that I've got, but I think that Atrahal is most likely scum.


I have enough posts out there for you to make a case. look at what we are all doing d day, looking for scum. look at what you are doing, speculation.

Voting patterns scummy, how why? Being first on a train is not as scummy as being the hammer with 3 hours to go, or removing from a lynch target to another player when a lynch train is underway. Have you voted properly since day one? No. Fact.

False symping? What killer would do such a thing, I brought it up in my last few posts, have you replied to that? No. Scummy.

Why do you think Kara would just vote for me? He actually has a brain. He wouldn't just thrown down a vote like that, see his removal from Shadow so that scum couldn't hammer then?

Hanas is scum. Is the symp. He voted night after you thought tiam was the symp, both you and Galayn where on thread at the time.

You haven't got a best because you are scum and you cannot find a proper reason to vote for me that sticks.


So you try to sway the others to you by being the one to yell the loudest and highest poster? Just because you push your post counts and comment on everything, doesn't mean that you aren't trying to confuse the thread.

You contradict yourself all over the place:

View PostAtrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sorry Korlat but I have this retarded case I have to reply to, once I have done that maybe Kara will see how much his ideas stink this game and actually may want to contribute towards finding scum.

Seriously though we are going to need one of Kara, Cast and Hanas to vote our way. The problem I have with this is that..

Kara's single mindedness points to him being the killer because he is not willing to look elsewhere yet the last few days I have had less and less of a killer vibe from him. Hanas not voting his way is huge in my opinion. Hanas pointed fingers at Cast yesterday and last night opens a lot of wifom.

Cast being absent goes in their favour because it is a shitty thing for scum to do at this crucial stage. That means our remaining town, Cast who will be needed for the lynch is not around.

That is probably why i'd vote Hanas today because I think kara may accept him as a choice and I think you'd vote that way too. Yet he cannot be the killer, and is most probably the symp.

Yet that would lead the way for us to vote Kara or Cast tomorrow.


Kara is the killer, Cast is town, we should vote the symp and then vote the killer or townie tomorrow? FFS which is it?
My point on voting you was to see whether Hanas would vote you. He didn't. Since we are all sure that Hanas is the symp, then if you were town, I think he'd be happy to vote your way.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:09 PM

I don't hate your case against Cast. I'd like to see what Korlat thinks, as I believe you're completely wrong about him. He's VPI in my eyes. Cast has mostly been a non-entity for me, so to see some actual concrete evidence against her makes me a little more sceptical of her. Anyway, I'll wait to see what Korlat has to say before voting. If I'm not mistaken, it currently rests at one vote each for Cast, Hanas and Atrahal, yeah?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:10 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 13 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

I don't hate your case against Cast. I'd like to see what Korlat thinks, as I believe you're completely wrong about him. He's VPI in my eyes. Cast has mostly been a non-entity for me, so to see some actual concrete evidence against her makes me a little more sceptical of her. Anyway, I'll wait to see what Korlat has to say before voting. If I'm not mistaken, it currently rests at one vote each for Cast, Hanas and Atrahal, yeah?


My bad - 1 vote each for Atrahal, Korlat and Cast.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostCast, on 13 June 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

@Korlat

The reason why I dropped my vote on Atrahal last night was because:

1) I do find his voting patterns scummy
2) False symping of shadow as I said in the beginning of the game. I think that made Shadow seem much more scummy to the rest of us than if Atrahal hadn't lead off the game with his whole "Shadow fax" nonsense
3) If Kara were scum, I think he would have immediately brought Atrahal to L1.
4) Hanas that crackheaded fucktard hasn't voted him, and I think Hanas has acted decidedly symplike.

It's the best that I've got, but I think that Atrahal is most likely scum.


I have enough posts out there for you to make a case. look at what we are all doing d day, looking for scum. look at what you are doing, speculation.

Voting patterns scummy, how why? Being first on a train is not as scummy as being the hammer with 3 hours to go, or removing from a lynch target to another player when a lynch train is underway. Have you voted properly since day one? No. Fact.

False symping? What killer would do such a thing, I brought it up in my last few posts, have you replied to that? No. Scummy.

Why do you think Kara would just vote for me? He actually has a brain. He wouldn't just thrown down a vote like that, see his removal from Shadow so that scum couldn't hammer then?

Hanas is scum. Is the symp. He voted night after you thought tiam was the symp, both you and Galayn where on thread at the time.

You haven't got a best because you are scum and you cannot find a proper reason to vote for me that sticks.


So you try to sway the others to you by being the one to yell the loudest and highest poster? Just because you push your post counts and comment on everything, doesn't mean that you aren't trying to confuse the thread.

You contradict yourself all over the place:

View PostAtrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sorry Korlat but I have this retarded case I have to reply to, once I have done that maybe Kara will see how much his ideas stink this game and actually may want to contribute towards finding scum.

Seriously though we are going to need one of Kara, Cast and Hanas to vote our way. The problem I have with this is that..

Kara's single mindedness points to him being the killer because he is not willing to look elsewhere yet the last few days I have had less and less of a killer vibe from him. Hanas not voting his way is huge in my opinion. Hanas pointed fingers at Cast yesterday and last night opens a lot of wifom.

Cast being absent goes in their favour because it is a shitty thing for scum to do at this crucial stage. That means our remaining town, Cast who will be needed for the lynch is not around.

That is probably why i'd vote Hanas today because I think kara may accept him as a choice and I think you'd vote that way too. Yet he cannot be the killer, and is most probably the symp.

Yet that would lead the way for us to vote Kara or Cast tomorrow.


Kara is the killer, Cast is town, we should vote the symp and then vote the killer or townie tomorrow? FFS which is it?
My point on voting you was to see whether Hanas would vote you. He didn't. Since we are all sure that Hanas is the symp, then if you were town, I think he'd be happy to vote your way.


So rather than deny the things I have said to you you just throw question at me? No answers just questions. A full read up on solely three players with all the innocents gone by and killer lynched, I am allowed to change my mind. Kara's VPI'd you which is worrying. If I am wrong then it is based on your play against Korlat's and I have to admit he has played a lot better than you. Why did you both feel the need to stay away from the lynch trains for the first 3 days?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 13 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

I don't hate your case against Cast. I'd like to see what Korlat thinks, as I believe you're completely wrong about him. He's VPI in my eyes. Cast has mostly been a non-entity for me, so to see some actual concrete evidence against her makes me a little more sceptical of her. Anyway, I'll wait to see what Korlat has to say before voting. If I'm not mistaken, it currently rests at one vote each for Cast, Hanas and Atrahal, yeah?


All of us should be scummy to you Kara. My hair Goddamit.

I'll vote myself. How about that, then scum can win that way

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

ignore the above, I wouldn't be childish to ruin the game that way. About 3 hours left.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:17 PM

I'm still here and I see what's being said. Still reading through Atrahal's posts - about two-thirds down now. I'll post a summary of what I read once I'm done, much like Atrahal did for the rest of us.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:18 PM

You all have brave faces I am telling you that. Why aren't most of you panicking. We have around 3 hours left to go in d day and we cannot agree on scum.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:24 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

You all have brave faces I am telling you that. Why aren't most of you panicking. We have around 3 hours left to go in d day and we cannot agree on scum.




The way I see it this d-day (if it even is d-day) isn't something to panic over (yet). We only have the one killer left. It is as much crunch time for them as it is for us. Our odds (based upon me not actually calculating any odds) of winning are no better or worse than theirs.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:27 PM

I'm here. Haven't read Atrahal's summaries yet, but will do so.
Since it's obvious that nobody else thinks Korlat is scummy.
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:28 PM

I will be around until time out, and am keeping a close eye on thread. I'm not making a solid decision until I know where everyone stands.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:37 PM

The fact that nobody is jumping onto the Atrahal bus is telling. We're all here, but no pile on.
In my mind we're down to Atrahal or Cast.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:37 PM

I have said as much to Ps but I'll put it here anyway.

I have convinced myself it is one of Cast or Korlat.

Yet how can Kara come on and VPI Cast. How? It absolutely baffles me.If that is the case, and I should be thinking the same way then the killer is Korlat. Yet I cannot get behind a Korlat vote. Head ache.

Kara how have you arrived at the decision to VPI Cast?

Cast if you are innceont, how does this make you feel towards Kara?

Bloody nora.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:38 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 13 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

I have said as much to Ps but I'll put it here anyway.

I have convinced myself it is one of Cast or Korlat.

Yet how can Kara come on and VPI Cast. How? It absolutely baffles me.If that is the case, and I should be thinking the same way then the killer is Korlat. Yet I cannot get behind a Korlat vote. Head ache.

Kara how have you arrived at the decision to VPI Cast?

Cast if you are innceont, how does this make you feel towards Kara?

Bloody nora.


I VPI'd Korlat, not Cast.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:39 PM

I am going to stick to my early analysis, but Hanas voting Korlat rings false as well, no one in their right mind will follow a Hanas vote. I'd like to see someone create a case against Korlat cause I can't.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:40 PM

Ah, I see how you all would be confused. I meant to say that I think Korlat is VPI, not Cast. This should have been evident by my use of HE for the VPI, and SHE for Cast. I'm willing to vote Cast if Korlat agrees.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:40 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 13 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

I don't hate your case against Cast. I'd like to see what Korlat thinks, as I believe you're completely wrong about him. He's VPI in my eyes. Cast has mostly been a non-entity for me, so to see some actual concrete evidence against her makes me a little more sceptical of her. Anyway, I'll wait to see what Korlat has to say before voting. If I'm not mistaken, it currently rests at one vote each for Cast, Hanas and Atrahal, yeah?


I read this as you thought Cast is VPI.

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