[Shadow]

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

A5) Treat everybody else playing with courtesy and respect

Modkill Desra for breaking this rule?

Or just for being a braindead failure of a person, whatever's good.

You really must be new to Mafia if you thought that Desra's response to you was anything but respectful and courteous.

You really must be new to humour if you thought I was being at all serious.

[Hood's Path]

no one does double penetration any classier

[Karatallid]

Hood, on 03 June 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

no one does double penetration any classier

You've never met my boyfriend.

[Hood's Path]

I will at this time, step away from the one liner and leave you to it

[Shadow]

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

So go fuck a tire or something.

Even with my huge cock, that's being a bit generous.

So I will return the favour - go fuck a thimble.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

A5) Treat everybody else playing with courtesy and respect

Modkill Desra for breaking this rule?

Or just for being a braindead failure of a person, whatever's good.

Asking the mod to modkill me multiple times = suspicious

[Shadow]

Are you actually being serious there?

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

Are you actually being serious there?

Questioning my seriousness for the x time = suspicious.

[Shadow]

Not actually answering questions = suspicious.

On a more serious note, Desra's OMGUS on me has totally de-railed any discussion from his post that kindly pointed out for the symp that this game would be looking particularly for them. I'd be interested in hearing what others feel about that, as I do feel it is a legitimately scummy move, since it is pointless do to as town, but could benefit scum.

I also don't like that Desra's response to pressure is just avoidance of the issue:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

Actually yes. I do assume that if I am lynched on day one then town is fucked. Because I am that fucking good. Ask your mom. She couldn't stop screaming my name as I was putting it in ass. Did you know that she goes from ass to mouth with no urging. Fucking dirty girl.

Followed by OMGUS.

[Galayn Lord]

checking in, I see Desra is being their lovely self as usual. And we haven't said or done anything useful, except for some meta borderline meta. Lovely, that.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Not actually answering questions = suspicious.

On a more serious note, Desra's OMGUS on me has totally de-railed any discussion from his post that kindly pointed out for the symp that this game would be looking particularly for them. I'd be interested in hearing what others feel about that, as I do feel it is a legitimately scummy move, since it is pointless do to as town, but could benefit scum.

I also don't like that Desra's response to pressure is just avoidance of the issue:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

Actually yes. I do assume that if I am lynched on day one then town is fucked. Because I am that fucking good. Ask your mom. She couldn't stop screaming my name as I was putting it in ass. Did you know that she goes from ass to mouth with no urging. Fucking dirty girl.

Followed by OMGUS.

Wait so you are totally ignoring the actual scummyness of players attempting to signal by saying that they have only read a couple of books. Nicely done sir. Nicely ignored.

[Hood's Path]

I didnt find it scummy

If you outline a plan or say you think someone is suspicious, you also give scum a chance to respond or counter

How is that different?

[Desra]

Galayn Lord, on 03 June 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

checking in, I see Desra is being their lovely self as usual. And we haven't said or done anything useful, except for some meta borderline meta. Lovely, that.

That isn't true.

You have shadow's ascertain that I am suspicious because I pointed out that scum have a chance to kill each other. He claims that pointing that out is not helpful to town.

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

So other then a random lynch on the killers we have to look for someone symping two players. On the plus side if they don't know each other there is a chance they might kill each other. That would go down as the most epic fail play if they did that.

Then you have me (and kara) saying that we are doubtful that there are two people in this game who have not read up. So potential signaling between Shadow and Silchas Ruin.

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hanas, on 03 June 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

That doesn't explain how it helps town at all at this point, it's just a collection of vaguely related theory. If it doesn't change anything, how does it help town?

The information isn't relevant at this stage, why not actually wait until you see someone who may be symping and then bring it up? Does town really need it pointed out to them that maybe we ought to keep an eye out for symping?

Whereas a master might want to warn their symp, particularly since there is always the chance they have an inexperienced symp.

It may not change the basics of how scum play, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit scum, and it doesn't mean it wouldn't affect how they play this game, being more or less cautious. If a master is worried in this game about symping, because he believes it to be a risk, and wants to warn the symp that town might be particularly alert to it, the only way he can get that message out is on thread.

Edit: Grammar

So you don't think that information is relevant to town from the get go. Mafia is just a vaguely related theory.

How exactly would a master (who doesn't know his symp) warn his symp? That makes no sense what so ever. The benefit to scum is inmaterial when compared to the benefit of all town knowing what to look for. You would have had me keep my suspicions and ideas to myself while I only looked for things. How does that benefit town? If I am day 1 lynched or nked then town would have lost the benefit of my insight. Which would not help town in the least.

So you are so insightful, that we really, really need you around?

Obviously it is always better to have me around unless it isn't. Of course if I am not around then I am modding which means fun and joy for everyone else. This time I most definitely will abuse it.



Looking at the sign up sheet I find it very very very strange that there are two players who are signed up who have not read at least most of the series. This smacks of signaling.

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

The what now? Fewer spoilers in my mafia please

Silchas Ruin, on 03 June 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Bonjour mes amis!!!

Fuck you Frenchie!

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Honestly though, you haven't read, what, MoI? I'm pretty sure that's where the HoL are first mentioned as possibly existing. It seems a little crazy to me that someone who has been on these boards as long as everyone who is signed up for this game has been, and hasn't read at least up to MoI, let alone the whole series. Regardless, it's not like it's a plot shattering spoiler, at least.

I just started Deadhouse Gates...

vote Kara

[Desra]

Hood, on 03 June 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

I didnt find it scummy

If you outline a plan or say you think someone is suspicious, you also give scum a chance to respond or counter

How is that different?

Are you referring to me or shadow? I am thinking him but I just want to make sure I don't have to make some kind of animal sex rebuttal.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Not actually answering questions = suspicious.

On a more serious note, Desra's OMGUS on me has totally de-railed any discussion from his post that kindly pointed out for the symp that this game would be looking particularly for them. I'd be interested in hearing what others feel about that, as I do feel it is a legitimately scummy move, since it is pointless do to as town, but could benefit scum.

I also don't like that Desra's response to pressure is just avoidance of the issue:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

Actually yes. I do assume that if I am lynched on day one then town is fucked. Because I am that fucking good. Ask your mom. She couldn't stop screaming my name as I was putting it in ass. Did you know that she goes from ass to mouth with no urging. Fucking dirty girl.

Followed by OMGUS.

What do you mean I answered this question. Here is the specific post that I answered your question. Now you don't like the answer that I gave fine. But don't say that I didn't answer. Your statement implies that I attempted to derail something with out answering the question. When that is not what happened at all. Your synopsis is misleading and an attempt at strawmaning which you would not have to do if you actually had something. The fact that you are already having to revert to that so early in the game is scummy. With only 4 pages you should be able to quote the quotes so that other readers can draw there own conclusions. Instead you are attempting to mislead by misrepresentation. Poor show old boy.

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Vote Desra

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

So other then a random lynch on the killers we have to look for someone symping two players. On the plus side if they don't know each other there is a chance they might kill each other. That would go down as the most epic fail play if they did that.

This post does not benefit the town. It tells us what we might want to look for. It also tells the scum. Why point that out at this stage? Instead of say, waiting until it's actually relevant? This warns the scum of what we might be looking for, and how not to play. It's a post that's more beneficial to a scum player than a town one.

Vote shadow


For being a slow fucking reader.

And your wrong that information does help town. Why because Scum has to play that way if they want a shot at winning. Scum already knows that town is looking for them HOW couldn't they (unless they have never heard of mafia or played the fucking game). Telling them how we are going to do it isn't going to change anything. Plus I want the scum to be hesitant to kill because they might hit the other scum. I want scum to want to try to figure out who there symp is so that they can look to him for signals to make sure that they don't kill the other scum. I want scum to have to do that. WHY you ask would I want scum to do that. BECAUSE that is going to give us clues to find the symp and then to find scum or to find scum then find the symp then find the other scum. Town wants clues. Town needs clues.

Editted for clarification

This post has been edited by Desra: 03 June 2013 - 09:18 PM

[Galayn Lord]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 03 June 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

checking in, I see Desra is being their lovely self as usual. And we haven't said or done anything useful, except for some meta borderline meta. Lovely, that.

That isn't true.

You have shadow's ascertain that I am suspicious because I pointed out that scum have a chance to kill each other. He claims that pointing that out is not helpful to town.

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

So other then a random lynch on the killers we have to look for someone symping two players. On the plus side if they don't know each other there is a chance they might kill each other. That would go down as the most epic fail play if they did that.

Then you have me (and kara) saying that we are doubtful that there are two people in this game who have not read up. So potential signaling between Shadow and Silchas Ruin.

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hanas, on 03 June 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

That doesn't explain how it helps town at all at this point, it's just a collection of vaguely related theory. If it doesn't change anything, how does it help town?

The information isn't relevant at this stage, why not actually wait until you see someone who may be symping and then bring it up? Does town really need it pointed out to them that maybe we ought to keep an eye out for symping?

Whereas a master might want to warn their symp, particularly since there is always the chance they have an inexperienced symp.

It may not change the basics of how scum play, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit scum, and it doesn't mean it wouldn't affect how they play this game, being more or less cautious. If a master is worried in this game about symping, because he believes it to be a risk, and wants to warn the symp that town might be particularly alert to it, the only way he can get that message out is on thread.

Edit: Grammar

So you don't think that information is relevant to town from the get go. Mafia is just a vaguely related theory.

How exactly would a master (who doesn't know his symp) warn his symp? That makes no sense what so ever. The benefit to scum is inmaterial when compared to the benefit of all town knowing what to look for. You would have had me keep my suspicions and ideas to myself while I only looked for things. How does that benefit town? If I am day 1 lynched or nked then town would have lost the benefit of my insight. Which would not help town in the least.

So you are so insightful, that we really, really need you around?

Obviously it is always better to have me around unless it isn't. Of course if I am not around then I am modding which means fun and joy for everyone else. This time I most definitely will abuse it.



Looking at the sign up sheet I find it very very very strange that there are two players who are signed up who have not read at least most of the series. This smacks of signaling.

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

The what now? Fewer spoilers in my mafia please

Silchas Ruin, on 03 June 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Bonjour mes amis!!!

Fuck you Frenchie!

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Honestly though, you haven't read, what, MoI? I'm pretty sure that's where the HoL are first mentioned as possibly existing. It seems a little crazy to me that someone who has been on these boards as long as everyone who is signed up for this game has been, and hasn't read at least up to MoI, let alone the whole series. Regardless, it's not like it's a plot shattering spoiler, at least.

I just started Deadhouse Gates...

vote Kara

In a perfect world, stating the obvious wouldn't be helpful to town. It'd be redundant and a waste of time. Given our predilection to put such a low value of fellow town's common sense, pointing out the obvious becomes an exercise that may potentially be valuable to town.



Shadow and SR, on one side, you and Karat on the other. From where i'm standing, either pair could be a killer/symp combo.

[Shadow]

Hood, on 03 June 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

I didnt find it scummy

If you outline a plan or say you think someone is suspicious, you also give scum a chance to respond or counter

How is that different?

There was no need for him to outline that plan at that point.

OMG guys, we should look for symping!

Oh, really?

Otoh, pointing out that since the killers aren't connected this game there will be more emphasis on symp could be useful for scum. But not town.

[Shadow]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Wait so you are totally ignoring the actual scummyness of players attempting to signal by saying that they have only read a couple of books. Nicely done sir. Nicely ignored.

I pointed out that Kara shouldn't post spoilers in the mafia area.
He said he didn't expect they were spoilers to anyone playing.
Someone else pointed out it would actually be for them.

It's a totally relevant thing to point out, not some stretch to signal. These sorts of cases tend to be flimsy at the best of times, and this one is weaker than most.

[Shadow]

Also, I'm not claiming you're scummy because you pointed out that scum have a chance to kill each other. That's just fluff pretending to be content.

My issue is with this:

"So other then a random lynch on the killers we have to look for someone symping two players."

Which is useless to post as town, but potentially useful for scum.

[Shadow]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

What do you mean I answered this question. Here is the specific post that I answered your question. Now you don't like the answer that I gave fine. But don't say that I didn't answer. Your statement implies that I attempted to derail something with out answering the question. When that is not what happened at all. Your synopsis is misleading and an attempt at strawmaning which you would not have to do if you actually had something. The fact that you are already having to revert to that so early in the game is scummy. With only 4 pages you should be able to quote the quotes so that other readers can draw there own conclusions. Instead you are attempting to mislead by misrepresentation. Poor show old boy.

And then I pointed out what I didn't like about what you posted.

And then you didn't answer, except with pointless insults. Which I did quote.

You would be well served by your own advice about misrepresentation.