[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

Is it the school holidays already?

Why does your mum only take it in the ass during the holidays?

[Shadow]

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

B6) Post information on the thread relating to another player's past or current activity on (or absence from) the board that would not otherwise be available to anybody reading the thread.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

And apparently we have two players new enough to mafia not to know that using meta reasoning for cases is against the rules...

Meta reasoning would be.

So and so is blank and usually post like such when they play as town. They are not posting as such there for they are scum lynch them.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

B6) Post information on the thread relating to another player's past or current activity on (or absence from) the board that would not otherwise be available to anybody reading the thread.

I posted nothing about another players activity. The information is freely available in the signups which have been ruled upon multiple times by various mods. If you or the current mod have a problem with it then I suggest you take it up with them and I will be happy to take it up with you any time you wish.

[Shadow]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

To carry on from my previous post. Looking at the sign up there are no new players. In fact there are only older players or at the very least players who have played mafia for a while. So what are the odds that out of the players who signed up that there would be TWO who haven't read past MOI. Oh and here is the link to the list.


Link to the sign up list

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

See, I'm not the only one. I can't say that I know for certain what everyone on the signup list has read, but I'm fairly confident that most, if not all, have read the entire series. Just at Deadhouse Gates? Yet you've been part of this site for years? Doubtful.

You don't think that this is relying on information about a player's previous activity on the board?

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

And apparently we have two players new enough to mafia not to know that using meta reasoning for cases is against the rules...

Attempting to use Meta so that other players won't look at a relevant and suspicious interaction is scummy. My vote was an initial OMGUS but I am becoming more sure of it.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

To carry on from my previous post. Looking at the sign up there are no new players. In fact there are only older players or at the very least players who have played mafia for a while. So what are the odds that out of the players who signed up that there would be TWO who haven't read past MOI. Oh and here is the link to the list.


Link to the sign up list

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

See, I'm not the only one. I can't say that I know for certain what everyone on the signup list has read, but I'm fairly confident that most, if not all, have read the entire series. Just at Deadhouse Gates? Yet you've been part of this site for years? Doubtful.

You don't think that this is relying on information about a player's previous activity on the board?

No. A players activity would be

" I know that Khell is posting on the board and so and so just posted here. So obviously so and so is khell and he is not posting as he normally does when he is town so he must be scum."

Multiple mods have ruled that the sign up sheet is considered fair game. The reason being that everyone signed up and posted. Using the sign up sheet to say that so and so is Khell would be meta. Which no one is doing. Using the sign up sheet to say that people are obviously signalling or making suspicious behavior because there are no newbs signed up for a game and people are acting like they are newbs is not meta.

[Shadow]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

To carry on from my previous post. Looking at the sign up there are no new players. In fact there are only older players or at the very least players who have played mafia for a while. So what are the odds that out of the players who signed up that there would be TWO who haven't read past MOI. Oh and here is the link to the list.


Link to the sign up list

Karatallid, on 03 June 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

See, I'm not the only one. I can't say that I know for certain what everyone on the signup list has read, but I'm fairly confident that most, if not all, have read the entire series. Just at Deadhouse Gates? Yet you've been part of this site for years? Doubtful.

You don't think that this is relying on information about a player's previous activity on the board?

No. A players activity would be

" I know that Khell is posting on the board and so and so just posted here. So obviously so and so is khell and he is not posting as he normally does when he is town so he must be scum."

Multiple mods have ruled that the sign up sheet is considered fair game. The reason being that everyone signed up and posted. Using the sign up sheet to say that so and so is Khell would be meta. Which no one is doing. Using the sign up sheet to say that people are obviously signalling or making suspicious behavior because there are no newbs signed up for a game and people are acting like they are newbs is not meta.

Acting like a newb and telling people not to post spoilers in the mafia thread are not the same thing.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Acting like a newb and telling people not to post spoilers in the mafia thread are not the same thing.

One person saying don't post spoilers is one thing. Multiple people saying that they have not read past MOI is potential signaling and needs to be pointed out.

[Shadow]

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Acting like a newb and telling people not to post spoilers in the mafia thread are not the same thing.

One person saying don't post spoilers is one thing. Multiple people saying that they have not read past MOI is potential signaling and needs to be pointed out.

This is the stupidest thing ever.

There is not even a reason to assume that people who have played mafia here for a while have all read past the books. There are plenty of people on the board who have lost steam with the books but kept up with the board, or who have come from elsewhere to play mafia and stayed for the community and not the books.

Also, I didn't even say I'd not read past MOI, just that he shouldn't be posting spoilers in the mafia section.

[Path-Shaper]

The above argument is borderline regarding meta. Another argument like that will get the person coming up with it mod-killed. If you are unsure, if you can say something, ask me.

[Hood's Path]

I'm okay with someone pointing out any oddness as possible signalling as long as it doesn't consume the entire thread to the exclusion of all else


oh, I hope nobody tries to act like a noob in this one

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 29 hours and 16 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Cast, Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Shadow, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Desra ( Shadow )
1 Vote for Kara (Silchas)
1 Vote for Shadow (Desra)

Players not voted: Atrahal, Cast, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha, Venesara

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Desra, on 03 June 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Acting like a newb and telling people not to post spoilers in the mafia thread are not the same thing.

One person saying don't post spoilers is one thing. Multiple people saying that they have not read past MOI is potential signaling and needs to be pointed out.

This is the stupidest thing ever.

There is not even a reason to assume that people who have played mafia here for a while have all read past the books. There are plenty of people on the board who have lost steam with the books but kept up with the board, or who have come from elsewhere to play mafia and stayed for the community and not the books.

Also, I didn't even say I'd not read past MOI, just that he shouldn't be posting spoilers in the mafia section.

You stayed because I'm bagging your mum? Some kind of weirdo aren't you. See you say don't post spoilers which is fine. A little hazing what not no biggy. Then Silchas comes on and says hey I haven't read past DG. In a game where the symp knows the killers and is going to want to try to make contact with them. It is a little suspicious. It is definitely something that needs to be looked at. Then trying to throw up Meta as a smoke screen to keep people from pursuing that line of thinking is suspicious.

[Shadow]

Told you so

[Desra]

Hood, on 03 June 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

I'm okay with someone pointing out any oddness as possible signalling as long as it doesn't consume the entire thread to the exclusion of all else


oh, I hope nobody tries to act like a noob in this one

Amen.

[Desra]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Told you so

Not modkilled so I guess I will go back to sticking my dick in your mum ass while I shove a dildo in her pussy.

[Shadow]

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

A5) Treat everybody else playing with courtesy and respect

Modkill Desra for breaking this rule?

Or just for being a braindead failure of a person, whatever's good.

[Karatallid]

Dear Lord almighty, meta, seriously? As far as I can see, I have no posted anything that is not readily available to anyone on this thread. As Desra points out, the fact that it's highly unlikely that a single person in that signup list hasn't read most if not the whole series, let alone 2, makes it quite plausible to look at it as possible signalling. If you don't know the people on the signup, it takes two seconds, perhaps three, so go look up their profiles which clearly state how long they have been part of the Malazan Empire boards.

I never said anything along the lines of "So and so has definitely read the books, so this alt must be lying through his face as he's obviously so and so." So you're blowing a whole lot of smoke out your ass, Shadow.

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Told you so

You told us it was DEFINITELY META OMGZORZ!!!! when PS clearly said it was borderline meta. Definitely and borderline are two different things. So go fuck a tire or something.

[Karatallid]

Shadow, on 03 June 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

A5) Treat everybody else playing with courtesy and respect

Modkill Desra for breaking this rule?

Or just for being a braindead failure of a person, whatever's good.

You really must be new to Mafia if you thought that Desra's response to you was anything but respectful and courteous.