[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

What happened to not going for Hanas today? You pretty much just did a 180 in about 5 posts.

I wanted to see if you'd have followed me in a vote. As if I was going to leave that lying around.

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

What happened to not going for Hanas today? You pretty much just did a 180 in about 5 posts.

So any comments on the lynch, and Shadow's CF, and me being his symp? Any cases at all? Rather than this piss poor attempt at solving things? Have you looked over the thread and seen what people have said? Or are you just going to say, I believe its him and that's that?

[Karatallid]

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

What happened to not going for Hanas today? You pretty much just did a 180 in about 5 posts.

So any comments on the lynch, and Shadow's CF, and me being his symp? Any cases at all? Rather than this piss poor attempt at solving things? Have you looked over the thread and seen what people have said? Or are you just going to say, I believe its him and that's that?

Telling me I haven't done anything to actually look at the thread is a little ridiculous. From the case I made against you and Shadow, just from the quotes that I posted, I think it's pretty obvious that I spent a good amount of time trawling through the entire thread, and not just talking out my ass. The more you screw around, the more likely I think it is that you're scum, whether it be symp or killer. I don't know if you're doing it on purpose to get a rise out of me or what, but you're constantly contradicting yourself, and constantly muddying up the thread with absolute bullshit or deliberate misunderstandings or misrepresentations.

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

What happened to not going for Hanas today? You pretty much just did a 180 in about 5 posts.

So any comments on the lynch, and Shadow's CF, and me being his symp? Any cases at all? Rather than this piss poor attempt at solving things? Have you looked over the thread and seen what people have said? Or are you just going to say, I believe its him and that's that?

Telling me I haven't done anything to actually look at the thread is a little ridiculous. From the case I made against you and Shadow, just from the quotes that I posted, I think it's pretty obvious that I spent a good amount of time trawling through the entire thread, and not just talking out my ass. The more you screw around, the more likely I think it is that you're scum, whether it be symp or killer. I don't know if you're doing it on purpose to get a rise out of me or what, but you're constantly contradicting yourself, and constantly muddying up the thread with absolute bullshit or deliberate misunderstandings or misrepresentations.

Now that Shadow is innocent you think I am the killer, whereas before I was his symp. But so was Hanas?

You have contradicted yourself and at the same time been single minded most of the game, you won't even look elsewhere.

[Karatallid]

Actually, I was calling you out on your Hanas contradiction. I never said we SHOULD vote for Hanas, I said that if we suspected him of being a symp that we should wait until today. My suspicions haven't moved from you. So you're not Shadow's symp, that doesn't change the fact that your behaviour paints you as scummy in my eyes.

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Actually, I was calling you out on your Hanas contradiction. I never said we SHOULD vote for Hanas, I said that if we suspected him of being a symp that we should wait until today. My suspicions haven't moved from you. So you're not Shadow's symp, that doesn't change the fact that your behaviour paints you as scummy in my eyes.

and you've played so many games you can recognise scum can you? I have seen no evidence of that this game. If you were truly town, which I am very doubtful of, you would be looking at either Cast or Korlat as the killer because if it isn't you then it is one of thos but you'd have to do one hell of a job at convincing me.

[Karatallid]

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Actually, I was calling you out on your Hanas contradiction. I never said we SHOULD vote for Hanas, I said that if we suspected him of being a symp that we should wait until today. My suspicions haven't moved from you. So you're not Shadow's symp, that doesn't change the fact that your behaviour paints you as scummy in my eyes.

and you've played so many games you can recognise scum can you? I have seen no evidence of that this game. If you were truly town, which I am very doubtful of, you would be looking at either Cast or Korlat as the killer because if it isn't you then it is one of thos but you'd have to do one hell of a job at convincing me.

Pray tell, sir, why it wouldn't be you? I think that despite my case being wrong about Shadow, there are still some very good points about your play in it, which is something that Shadow agreed with.

[Atrahal]

You are so lazy. Your shitty case was beginning of yesterday. Yet instead of moving on with the new information you have ie Tholen and Shadow CF'ing as RI you are fixated on something that is done and is in the past.

[Karatallid]

^{What new information? Yes, Shadow has turned up inno, but that doesn't change the fact that you've spent the entire game contradicting yourself and confusing the thread. And your slew of posts about me yesterday doesn't change that either. What do you want me to say? You obviously think I'm scum, fine, but that doesn't change the fact that I think you're scum.}

[Atrahal]

So us just butting heads on D day is not going to happen. I don't care any more. With your constant nagging and whining i'll address your case. I say nagging and whining because I am pissed off it is you and I talking, No Cast, No Hanas and Korlat will be back later. If you do not mind, i'll reply to each point in green and bigger writing. Don't fucking forget as well I had found Shadow scummy on occasions but after my careful read through of the whole thread came up with him being more likely town. Less than you can say. You haven't even mentioned the other people on fucking D day. Shit town or fucking scum.

Karatallid, on 10 June 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Alright, so I am going to reinforce the case that Atrahal isthe symp, Shadow is the scum… Here's my reasoning, starting all the way back onDay 1:

His very first post is a potential signal to Shadow: MY very first post was not a signal to anyone although I can see why you thought it. No one would highlight their master like this on day one, no one. A killer wouldn't do this kind of post either because it draws attention. From here one of Shadow or Atrahal could have been lynched through a shitty day one signalling case.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Fax.Shadow Fax. Faxed Shadow. Max Ammo.

Seewhat I did there?

The honest answer was the answer I gave, I was doing a fax, Shadow had posted and I play zombies. I was just messing around with words, linking them together.



ButI try to put little to no faith in signalling cases, so beyond pointing it outfor posterity's sake, I'll move on from this.



Then he does his best to make it look like I'm being scummy by deliberately misinterpreting my posts about how scum are most likely on the same team. Then he basically just does what he can to push a lynch on me for a completely bullshit reason:

Defensive whining cock. First of all there was no push, there has never been a push even yesterday when going all over the fact, posts, lynches, behaviour there was no push. This is very defensive. very whiny too. Stop being self centred and think of your town team mates. Unless your self preservation is due to scum reasons.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

I was pointing out how much of a retard Kara is and that we should lynch him to avoid further embarrassment from him at a later stage in the game. Parroting the OP in order to look useful and insightful.

**Open Sarcasm ** Yes this is certainly me pushing your lynch, everyone will follow this sentence because they do not have their own thoughts **End Sarcasm**


I am correcting your fucking sentences ie themajority is the majority, where did you learn to space?

The majority of my posts to that point were in response to questions about whether the killers were on the same team or not, yet Atrahal takes five words out of one if my posts and makes it out to be a super scummy move… then:

Again this is me being a potential killer because I am doing something to you, not voting someone else, not hammering out of time, not defending anyone profusely, not actually being scummy in other words but because I am accusing you of things? Just like I accuse Hanas of things? Or Cast? You know you have been narrow minded most of the game, how does that benefit town? Do you not see where I am coming from?

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

So the game the last two games have seen scum win when they low post and scum lose when they had a high post count. So what are you saying here?


If PS calls a spade a spade and then you come and say that you "think" the spade is a spade then I am going to think you are a retard. I'd prefer you to post and contribute, that's great. Just don't be a retard.

The above is provocative. I am provoking a reaction out of you. Can you not see that? I PM'd PS apologising because I'm not normally this harsh, I just took on a persona early on in the game and let it run. Maybe I get pissed off a little with people calling me a retard i'd dish it out a little myself.

To be continued after I make a brew.

[Korlat]

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

Why didn't the Dude read his own post before making the decision?

Tholen, on 11 June 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 11 June 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 June 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

vote Shadow

day times out at half 6 in the morning GMT, is this right? So I need to vote in 3 hours.

I'm torn and have no time now. I ask people the merit of voting who I think is scum, who others think is scum or who may be scum. Its tough.

The only reason I'm not voting Hanas is because he'll cf ri.

That leaves one of cast, Kara and tholen as scum in my opinion. If I think that, which I do, then how can I vote shadow.

Kara what do you think of cast and tholen?
Tholen why are you voting for hanas today but argued against it with desra yesterday?
cast why did you follow Kara so quick today? Why not take your time and read up?

I have read through all the posts but am still processing. In answer to your question I am voting Hanas because I feel that he is the symp and if we are going to vote off someone we expect to CF RI then we need to do it sooner rather than later. I was against it yesterday because I felt we had a solid lead on scum and it was before Hanas added yet another scum like action to his behavior history. I know I did the same think with Skintick, but as I pointed out on thread, it was late my time and day was timing out with no guarantee of a lynch. So I went for it. If Hanas had just done that hammer, it wouldn't be a big deal, but that combined with his other behavior in addition to Tiam's suspicions of him just points a big arrow in his direction no matter how much he uses large red font. If he is the symp he knows he will come up inno and can piss and moan all he wants.

Here's something I've been hesitant to mention because its not WCS but, it IS possible that the symp is dead already which would render much of atrahal's research moot. I know we can't afford to think like that, but I am trying to draw connections based on the things that have been being quoted and other than the Hanas behavior, I am having a hard time drawing lines between 2 players. It will be a nice surprise if that is the case, but obviously we can't think like that. I just want people to realize that if you are basing your thoughts on who is a killer solely on interactions between the REMAINING players, you could be sending yourself off in the wrong direction by making that assumption.

As I have said before, I don't think Shadow is a killer. Could he be...yes. He doesn't see the merit in a Hanas lynch, but it DOES in fact get us another day if he is the symp. If he is the symp then tomorrow is D-day if we don't lynch right today. But like I said before, I think it's foolish to try to lynch today, leaving the suspected symp, saying that we'll vote him tomorrow if we are wrong today. Reduce suspects and give yourself a chance. By voting Hanas today we more effectively do that imo. Not sure why Shadow doesn't see that.

If I had to vote a killer today it would be Cast. Shadow made a good point about him coming up on everyone's list at some point or another. But his lynch has never gained much steam. It's easy, and some would argue smart, to include your master in your suspicions if you are a symp. So we can't rely totally on that logic. Hell, like I said before, the symp could be dead and Cast might be freeballin, hence no support. His game has been middle of the road low posting which is a known scum MO.

My top 2 for today would be Hanas or Cast. I could get behind a shadow lynch as I am almost 100% he isn't the symp, and so is a possible killer, but as I stated, it wouldn't be a confident vote. I will reiterate though, if we do decide to go another direction away from Hanas, I won't be voting him tomorrow. I refuse to vote for a known RI CF on a WCS D-day.

I am highlighting this post though because he sees in Cast possible killer MO. So that is both Grief and The Dude pointing fingers at Cast.

This post of Tholen's which you highlighted, Atrahal, got me thinking at first that maybe Tholen was the symp. Tholen had some hostility towards Shadow, but never really followed through on that. I was surprised when I came back and saw that they had chosen to vote Shadow. That, combined with their hammer on our healer Skintick, both felt dodgy to me. It was unlike and disparate from the rest of Tholen's style of play to me.

This would also suggest that we caught a lucky break if the killer (most obviously Karatallid, as the other lynch choice, but not necessarily) did not think of them as their symp and killed them off.

HOWEVER, reading over that post of Tholen's again, he does actually mention a couple of times that Shadow could still be a killer even if he's not convinced, so the vote on Shadow doesn't come fully out of nowhere.

Need to look at Tholen interaction again. I have two analyses of Tholen's posts from yesterday if people want to take a look back. But I actually think more important than this is looking over the lynch trains. My thoughts on Tholen are still too much just theory methinks.

[Atrahal]

Quote

Just keeps on pushing, and pushing… Unfortunately for him, the rest of you are smart enough to see an idiot case when they see one… So he moves on to Silchas because of a jokevote on me for being French:

We are talking day one here, if Silchas was vocal and talking and casting votes to gauge reactions then that would have been a lot better than a vote then a disappear for a bull shit reason. Of course I am going for that. You spent a lot of time defending yourself from others for your vote switch. I was usually the first to cast my vote this game, does that make me scum? Wouldn't scum worry about hitting their symp and or other killer?

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Verysilly reason to vote. IGMEOY

In fact why did you quote this? It is a silly reason to vote. I thought this was my vote.



The thing is that he blatantly says he thinks that Silchas is most likely a symp:

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Thereare always veiled reasons about mafia moves and posts. On the surface this looks like a joke vote but that makes me suspicious of why you are joking around like that when there are two kiillers playing this game and D day is not far away. people dragon sex fair enough but votes are important and throwing them around willy nilly for absolute bullshit reasons can only be something a symp would do.

I didn't think he was symping you though Kara, no I thought he was being blasé with his vote. Nothing stood out early day one as much as this for me.



But regardless of him most likely being a symp, that's where his vote goes:

Promote discussion, add some pressure, should I just move past all these day one quotes?

Atrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

For now I am going to
Vote Silchas Ruin

The only content he provided was the joke vote and a few one liners in response tome. Since then he hasn't done anything to engage in conversation. I am not sure where I place Desra and Shadow at the moment. One of them could be a symp muddying the waters. I want to focus on the people that don't want to stand out and coast along.

You didn't mention that I cast suspicion towards Desra and Shadow here. Which is kind of why you are pointing fingers at me in the first place right?


Then he makes this post here…

Atrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Peopledon't want to take the lead as day one we are usually wrong. I am happy with mySilchas vote for now but obviously I am around to try and lynch. I thinklynching the lowest poster instead of modkill, or Tholen for whatever crap thatpost was may be our best choice as time winds down.

Basically, he's saying that he's okay with voting for who hehas said he thinks is most likely a symp, but would rather lynch a low poster,but is okay with voting wherever the thread is, maybe even Tholen. Trying to be pretty helpful, but throwingbits of suspicion all around him like it's glitter in a gay bar.

Did you not say you thought Silchas was Shadow's symp, did you not at one stage put Hanas as Shadow's symp as well, AND me as Shadow's symp? Can you not just see why we think you are scummy, you are trying to link everyone to Shadow who you think is scum, because of your spat.



Now we move on to the reason why I think that he is symping Shadow…

The moment I lay a vote on Shadow, he jumps on me for saying Shelly instead of Silchas, okay, fine, Damn right it's fine, you got something fucking wrong


but then he brings up the low-poster route again. Addressing you below, do you disagree?

Atrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Also Kara you think it is a viable option of us leaving the bottom 4/5 posters alive to fuck us over again like the last few games?

Ashe had already stated, Silchas wasn't among the lowest posters (though he was pretty down there, and his content was strongly lacking), was likely a symp,but was good enough for his vote…

I would have still voted Silchas, my fucking God, you fail to tell me why you think I am scummy, and you are basing this shit on day one, when after finding out Shadow's CF you are fucking wrong. What. A. Moron.


Andthen:

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Atrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

To addto that if you think Shadow and Silchas are signalling each other then why notget rid of useless Silchas? I'll vote Shadows way if we'd come downto the last few hours and we need a lynch but I'd hate for this game to goquiet at a later stage because town and the killers offed the more vocalplayers. Why would scum kill any of the lower "hiding"players? Whenthey can just hide in there themselves.

This is valid. Do you disagree? Shadow had 3 people on his train, I must have made a good fucking point here because 7 people followed me including you. Although I don't think I pushed it after this. Now my question to you here, which is valid, why would scum defend Shadow like this, and instigate lynches day one and two and put themselves out there? You see you were wrong about me symping Shadow because Shadow came back innocent. If you think me the symp then you believe Hanas innocent because he cannot fucking well be the killer if he was guarded the night the guard died. Then you have to say who am I symping?


Supernice, trying to play it off as if it's no big deal if Shadow ends up being thetarget, but still subtly trying to move us away from these suspicions. Anyway, the Shadow train never picked up toomuch traction, so we all moved on to Silchas, who CFs as inno, which Atrahalset himself up nicely be all like "I told you so," though the same can be saidabout me.

I want what you are smoking, and no not bone.

[Karatallid]

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

So us just butting heads on D day is not going to happen. I don't care any more. With your constant nagging and whining i'll address your case. I say nagging and whining because I am pissed off it is you and I talking, No Cast, No Hanas and Korlat will be back later. If you do not mind, i'll reply to each point in green and bigger writing. Don't fucking forget as well I had found Shadow scummy on occasions but after my careful read through of the whole thread came up with him being more likely town. Less than you can say. You haven't even mentioned the other people on fucking D day. Shit town or fucking scum.

Karatallid, on 10 June 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Alright, so I am going to reinforce the case that Atrahal isthe symp, Shadow is the scum… Here's my reasoning, starting all the way back onDay 1:

His very first post is a potential signal to Shadow: MY very first post was not a signal to anyone although I can see why you thought it. No one would highlight their master like this on day one, no one. A killer wouldn't do this kind of post either because it draws attention. From here one of Shadow or Atrahal could have been lynched through a shitty day one signalling case.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Fax.Shadow Fax. Faxed Shadow. Max Ammo.

Seewhat I did there?

The honest answer was the answer I gave, I was doing a fax, Shadow had posted and I play zombies. I was just messing around with words, linking them together.



ButI try to put little to no faith in signalling cases, so beyond pointing it outfor posterity's sake, I'll move on from this.



Then he does his best to make it look like I'm being scummy by deliberately misinterpreting my posts about how scum are most likely on the same team. Then he basically just does what he can to push a lynch on me for a completely bullshit reason:

Defensive whining cock. First of all there was no push, there has never been a push even yesterday when going all over the fact, posts, lynches, behaviour there was no push. This is very defensive. very whiny too. Stop being self centred and think of your town team mates. Unless your self preservation is due to scum reasons.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

I was pointing out how much of a retard Kara is and that we should lynch him to avoid further embarrassment from him at a later stage in the game. Parroting the OP in order to look useful and insightful.

**Open Sarcasm ** Yes this is certainly me pushing your lynch, everyone will follow this sentence because they do not have their own thoughts **End Sarcasm**


I am correcting your fucking sentences ie themajority is the majority, where did you learn to space?

The majority of my posts to that point were in response to questions about whether the killers were on the same team or not, yet Atrahal takes five words out of one if my posts and makes it out to be a super scummy move… then:

Again this is me being a potential killer because I am doing something to you, not voting someone else, not hammering out of time, not defending anyone profusely, not actually being scummy in other words but because I am accusing you of things? Just like I accuse Hanas of things? Or Cast? You know you have been narrow minded most of the game, how does that benefit town? Do you not see where I am coming from?

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

So the game the last two games have seen scum win when they low post and scum lose when they had a high post count. So what are you saying here?


If PS calls a spade a spade and then you come and say that you "think" the spade is a spade then I am going to think you are a retard. I'd prefer you to post and contribute, that's great. Just don't be a retard.

The above is provocative. I am provoking a reaction out of you. Can you not see that? I PM'd PS apologising because I'm not normally this harsh, I just took on a persona early on in the game and let it run. Maybe I get pissed off a little with people calling me a retard i'd dish it out a little myself.

To be continued after I make a brew.

3 things:

Firstly, I mentioned how Chrome screwed up all my spacing in a later post, so sorry that you feel you need to fix that. I didn't feel like going through every post and quote to fix what Chrome had screwed up, so I just left it that way.

Secondly, I think the use of the word retard is extremely insulting and upsetting, both to myself, and to people with mental disabilities. So dishing it out, as you say, is not my style. Sorry, you can be an inconsiderate, prejudiced asshole all you want, I'd rather just be a regular asshole!

Finally, unlike you, I haven't spent the entire game making accusations on every single person on thread. Now that I'm accusing you of not having any focus and muddying the thread, you're trying to accuse me of completely disregarding the rest of the thread. I have given my opinion on Hanas, Cast and Korlat. Just because I don't spend 18 posts worth of quotes to back up my statements doesn't mean that I haven't spent the time looking at them. Rather than regurgitate the same stupid cases as everyone else has been spewing out for the last few days, I have narrowed my scope to those I felt were the scummiest - i.e. you and Shadow. Just because YOU don't think that Shadow is scum, doesn't mean that *I* don't think so. We obviously both think differently, that's fine. There's no point in getting angry at me about it.

Now, cause apparently you're too damn lazy to actually read my posts and opinions, here's what I think of the remaining members:

Korlat - if he's scum, he's been playing an excellent game. He's been smooth and hasn't done anything overtly scummy, he has given his opinion and provided useful insight on many people on thread.

Cast - I have seen nothing to me that suggests that he's scum. Everyone has this gut feeling that he's extremely scummy, but there's nothing concrete or really solid to suggest as much. I'm not basing my vote on the gut feelings of any person, I'm basing it on the thread research I have done.

Hanas - Though the voting Night thing was somewhat suspect, as well as the hammer he dropped, I just don't think he's scum. That being said, if the rest of you are intent on voting him out in hopes that he's a symp, then I would be willing to follow along on this train.

However, my vote still goes to you. I'd lay it now, but I want to wait to see what the others have to say first. So I'm holding off for now, and we'll see how things progress as the day moves forward!

[Hanas]

Atrahal said:

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So us just butting heads on D day is not going to happen. I don't care any more. With your constant nagging and whining i'll address your case. I say nagging and whining because I am pissed off it is you and I talking, No Cast, No Hanas and Korlat will be back later. If you do not mind, i'll reply to each point in green and bigger writing. Don't fucking forget as well I had found Shadow scummy on occasions but after my careful read through of the whole thread came up with him being more likely town. Less than you can say. You haven't even mentioned the other people on fucking D day. Shit town or fucking scum.

Edit: I'm here but thoroughly decaffieimated.

This post has been edited by Hanas: 12 June 2013 - 03:00 PM

[Atrahal]

Sorry Korlat but I have this retarded case I have to reply to, once I have done that maybe Kara will see how much his ideas stink this game and actually may want to contribute towards finding scum.

Seriously though we are going to need one of Kara, Cast and Hanas to vote our way. The problem I have with this is that..

Kara's single mindedness points to him being the killer because he is not willing to look elsewhere yet the last few days I have had less and less of a killer vibe from him. Hanas not voting his way is huge in my opinion. Hanas pointed fingers at Cast yesterday and last night opens a lot of wifom.

Cast being absent goes in their favour because it is a shitty thing for scum to do at this crucial stage. That means our remaining town, Cast who will be needed for the lynch is not around.

That is probably why i'd vote Hanas today because I think kara may accept him as a choice and I think you'd vote that way too. Yet he cannot be the killer, and is most probably the symp.

Yet that would lead the way for us to vote Kara or Cast tomorrow.

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on 12 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

So us just butting heads on D day is not going to happen. I don't care any more. With your constant nagging and whining i'll address your case. I say nagging and whining because I am pissed off it is you and I talking, No Cast, No Hanas and Korlat will be back later. If you do not mind, i'll reply to each point in green and bigger writing. Don't fucking forget as well I had found Shadow scummy on occasions but after my careful read through of the whole thread came up with him being more likely town. Less than you can say. You haven't even mentioned the other people on fucking D day. Shit town or fucking scum.

Karatallid, on 10 June 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Alright, so I am going to reinforce the case that Atrahal isthe symp, Shadow is the scum… Here's my reasoning, starting all the way back onDay 1:

His very first post is a potential signal to Shadow: MY very first post was not a signal to anyone although I can see why you thought it. No one would highlight their master like this on day one, no one. A killer wouldn't do this kind of post either because it draws attention. From here one of Shadow or Atrahal could have been lynched through a shitty day one signalling case.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Fax.Shadow Fax. Faxed Shadow. Max Ammo.

Seewhat I did there?

The honest answer was the answer I gave, I was doing a fax, Shadow had posted and I play zombies. I was just messing around with words, linking them together.



ButI try to put little to no faith in signalling cases, so beyond pointing it outfor posterity's sake, I'll move on from this.



Then he does his best to make it look like I'm being scummy by deliberately misinterpreting my posts about how scum are most likely on the same team. Then he basically just does what he can to push a lynch on me for a completely bullshit reason:

Defensive whining cock. First of all there was no push, there has never been a push even yesterday when going all over the fact, posts, lynches, behaviour there was no push. This is very defensive. very whiny too. Stop being self centred and think of your town team mates. Unless your self preservation is due to scum reasons.

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

I was pointing out how much of a retard Kara is and that we should lynch him to avoid further embarrassment from him at a later stage in the game. Parroting the OP in order to look useful and insightful.

**Open Sarcasm ** Yes this is certainly me pushing your lynch, everyone will follow this sentence because they do not have their own thoughts **End Sarcasm**


I am correcting your fucking sentences ie themajority is the majority, where did you learn to space?

The majority of my posts to that point were in response to questions about whether the killers were on the same team or not, yet Atrahal takes five words out of one if my posts and makes it out to be a super scummy move… then:

Again this is me being a potential killer because I am doing something to you, not voting someone else, not hammering out of time, not defending anyone profusely, not actually being scummy in other words but because I am accusing you of things? Just like I accuse Hanas of things? Or Cast? You know you have been narrow minded most of the game, how does that benefit town? Do you not see where I am coming from?

Atrahal, on 03 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

So the game the last two games have seen scum win when they low post and scum lose when they had a high post count. So what are you saying here?


If PS calls a spade a spade and then you come and say that you "think" the spade is a spade then I am going to think you are a retard. I'd prefer you to post and contribute, that's great. Just don't be a retard.

The above is provocative. I am provoking a reaction out of you. Can you not see that? I PM'd PS apologising because I'm not normally this harsh, I just took on a persona early on in the game and let it run. Maybe I get pissed off a little with people calling me a retard i'd dish it out a little myself.

To be continued after I make a brew.

3 things:

Firstly, I mentioned how Chrome screwed up all my spacing in a later post, so sorry that you feel you need to fix that. I didn't feel like going through every post and quote to fix what Chrome had screwed up, so I just left it that way.

Secondly, I think the use of the word retard is extremely insulting and upsetting, both to myself, and to people with mental disabilities. So dishing it out, as you say, is not my style. Sorry, you can be an inconsiderate, prejudiced asshole all you want, I'd rather just be a regular asshole!

Finally, unlike you, I haven't spent the entire game making accusations on every single person on thread. Now that I'm accusing you of not having any focus and muddying the thread, you're trying to accuse me of completely disregarding the rest of the thread. I have given my opinion on Hanas, Cast and Korlat. Just because I don't spend 18 posts worth of quotes to back up my statements doesn't mean that I haven't spent the time looking at them. Rather than regurgitate the same stupid cases as everyone else has been spewing out for the last few days, I have narrowed my scope to those I felt were the scummiest - i.e. you and Shadow. Just because YOU don't think that Shadow is scum, doesn't mean that *I* don't think so. We obviously both think differently, that's fine. There's no point in getting angry at me about it.

Now, cause apparently you're too damn lazy to actually read my posts and opinions, here's what I think of the remaining members:

Korlat - if he's scum, he's been playing an excellent game. He's been smooth and hasn't done anything overtly scummy, he has given his opinion and provided useful insight on many people on thread.

Cast - I have seen nothing to me that suggests that he's scum. Everyone has this gut feeling that he's extremely scummy, but there's nothing concrete or really solid to suggest as much. I'm not basing my vote on the gut feelings of any person, I'm basing it on the thread research I have done.

Hanas - Though the voting Night thing was somewhat suspect, as well as the hammer he dropped, I just don't think he's scum. That being said, if the rest of you are intent on voting him out in hopes that he's a symp, then I would be willing to follow along on this train.

However, my vote still goes to you. I'd lay it now, but I want to wait to see what the others have to say first. So I'm holding off for now, and we'll see how things progress as the day moves forward!

So wait there, out of the people left alive, WCS says two scum, you find only me scummy? WTF.

There are two people we are looking at here WCS. FFS

[Atrahal]

I am this close to voting Kara before I leave today >|<

I don't care if Korlat/Cast/Hanas are scum, I cannot see this Kara being anything but. It took us all day yesterday to get to that position.

[Korlat]

Shit fuck, I'm being called away again for a few hours. I was hoping to have the next couple of hours free for this but no such luck. When I get home this evening I should be able to play properly. I want to have another look over everyone who's remaining, even Atrahal. I think now that Shadow had one thing right in one of their last posts - too much focus on the possible symp, and finding a connection when there might not even be one because the symp never truly bothered and/or needed to interact with their master. This should be about who is most likely that final killer out of our remaining few, and that's what I'm going to set about when I get home.

[Hanas]

Atrahal said:

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Sorry Korlat but I have this retarded case I have to reply to, once I have done that maybe Kara will see how much his ideas stink this game and actually may want to contribute towards finding scum.

Seriously though we are going to need one of Kara, Cast and Hanas to vote our way. The problem I have with this is that..

Kara's single mindedness points to him being the killer because he is not willing to look elsewhere yet the last few days I have had less and less of a killer vibe from him. Hanas not voting his way is huge in my opinion. Hanas pointed fingers at Cast yesterday and last night opens a lot of wifom.

Cast being absent goes in their favour because it is a shitty thing for scum to do at this crucial stage. That means our remaining town, Cast who will be needed for the lynch is not around.

That is probably why i'd vote Hanas today because I think kara may accept him as a choice and I think you'd vote that way too. Yet he cannot be the killer, and is most probably the symp.

Yet that would lead the way for us to vote Kara or Cast tomorrow.

I didn't vote for Kara because of Korlat. He made me re-think my position on Kara. But when he did his summary on me, he took 3 comments out of context and spun them as connections to Kara. If he did that to me, what did he spin on Kara?

[Atrahal]

Hanas, on 12 June 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 June 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sorry Korlat but I have this retarded case I have to reply to, once I have done that maybe Kara will see how much his ideas stink this game and actually may want to contribute towards finding scum.

Seriously though we are going to need one of Kara, Cast and Hanas to vote our way. The problem I have with this is that..

Kara's single mindedness points to him being the killer because he is not willing to look elsewhere yet the last few days I have had less and less of a killer vibe from him. Hanas not voting his way is huge in my opinion. Hanas pointed fingers at Cast yesterday and last night opens a lot of wifom.

Cast being absent goes in their favour because it is a shitty thing for scum to do at this crucial stage. That means our remaining town, Cast who will be needed for the lynch is not around.

That is probably why i'd vote Hanas today because I think kara may accept him as a choice and I think you'd vote that way too. Yet he cannot be the killer, and is most probably the symp.

Yet that would lead the way for us to vote Kara or Cast tomorrow.

I didn't vote for Kara because of Korlat. He made me re-think my position on Kara. But when he did his summary on me, he took 3 comments out of context and spun them as connections to Kara. If he did that to me, what did he spin on Kara?

Who are you thinking is scum?