[Tulas Shorn]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

I agree on once per night recruitment ability being likely. There may be other mitigating factors, though - such as some roles potentially taking longer/more than one attempt to recruit? This game strikes me as one which very much needs careful mod/creator balancing in order to work properly, otherwise one or the other side could become OP way too easily.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 23 hours 51 minutes remaining in the day.

15 players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch. 8 to go to night.

1 vote Ay Estos: Aranatha
1 vote Sheltatha Lore: Omtose
1 vote Barghast: Karosis

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 22 hours and 47 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Ay Estos )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Barghast )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Sheltatha Lore )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Is this a creative way of doing things or are you just trying to confuse us?

There was a small change in MM. All good now. Good to see that your paying attention.

V

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

I agree on once per night recruitment ability being likely. There may be other mitigating factors, though - such as some roles potentially taking longer/more than one attempt to recruit? This game strikes me as one which very much needs careful mod/creator balancing in order to work properly, otherwise one or the other side could become OP way too easily.

Yes. I agree with the underlined.

[Karosis]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 22 hours and 24 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Path-Shaper]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Are you calling us a retard?

V

[Aranatha]

As Shelly says, and as I quoted before as well. Furthermore, we have a vig, a guard and an undisclosed role.
All specifics on what the Timelords do can be found on page 2 or so of the subforum in (I think) the spoiler thread for mafia 97.

Honestly, this is just facepalm territory.

Quote

Town vs. ScumThe winning roles from Timelords 1 are Roled Town – King Sunday as the Timelord, Sir Thursday as the Vigilante, Mister Monday as the Guard, and Lady Wednesday, who was a Roleless Innocent, will be given an undisclosed role. Should the game have over 15 players, a fifth, undisclosed, roled player will be added to town. Members of King Sunday's court will not be told who their TL is.
The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.
All remaining players will be roleless innocents beginning the game in King Sunday's court.

- removed faulty editing due to copy/paste disasters.

This post has been edited by Aranatha: 28 May 2013 - 04:18 PM

[Sheltatha Lore]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

That is incredibly retarded. timelord is not a new role, it was used in last game as well. I think you are just covering up your slip up.
"sounds like scum timelord can kill"
the ability is in the name stupid.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Are you calling us a retard?

V

Vengy, let's be honest. we all know you you're a retard. you are the only one who doesn't accept it. Blend is alright though.
Although I meant Karosis in this post.

Edit: also, the new vote count was your work huh?

This post has been edited by Sheltatha Lore: 28 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

[Karosis]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

That is incredibly retarded. timelord is not a new role, it was used in last game as well. I think you are just covering up your slip up.
" sounds like scum timelord can kill"
the ability is in the name stupid.

I didn't play in the last game so how would I know that there were no night kills? Who says roles are exactly the same in this game as last game?


edit changed was to were

This post has been edited by Karosis: 28 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

[Aranatha]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

Once again, the TL has been named before. There's a town vig as well.
If you do the maths, with 1 recruitment and 1 lynch and 15 players of which scum makes up 2, scum wins at ...drumroll... end of day 5 if we don't manage to lynch scum.

start day 1: 2 scum, 15 players.
start day 2: 3 scum, 14 players.
start day 3: 4 scum, 13 players.
start day 4: 5 scum, 12 players.
start day 5: 6 scum, 11 players.


Do you honestly think scum will get a kill in that scenario?

[Path-Shaper]

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 21 hours and 16 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 May 2013 - 04:24 PM

[Sheltatha Lore]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

That is incredibly retarded. timelord is not a new role, it was used in last game as well. I think you are just covering up your slip up.
" sounds like scum timelord can kill"
the ability is in the name stupid.

I didn't play in the last game so how would I know that there were no night kills? Who says roles are exactly the same in this game as last game?


edit changed was to were

Nobody says the roles are exactly the same. but the OP says that there is a scum timelord and a town timelord. so if the scum time lord can kill then the town one should be able to kill too don't you think? and that would be such a balanced game!

Vote Karosis

because OMGUS and I don't want you to muddy the waters 5 days from now.

[Path-Shaper]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Are you calling us a retard?

V

Vengy, let's be honest. we all know you you're a retard. you are the only one who doesn't accept it. Blend is alright though.
Although I meant Karosis in this post.

Edit: also, the new vote count was your work huh?

I prefer to think of myself as an asshole not a retard. Taunting the mod is never a good thing unless you like posting in pictures.

V

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 21 hours and 13 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Sheltatha Lore]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I prefer to think of myself as an asshole not a retard. Taunting the mod is never a good thing unless you like posting in pictures.

V

That's a good point.
I never said I am not a retard.

[Tulas Shorn]

I really don't think the scum TL could kill. Leaving aside the fact that the roles (aside from the one undisclosed town role) have been named, it wouldn't make any sense to give them an NK ability. The scum winning conditions are to gain a majority, NOT kill town. As I said earlier, they seem more like a cult than standard scum.

[Kessobahn]

All caught up. I think it's dangerous to make the assumption that the scum faction can't kill. That being said, we only have to wait till a few nights pass to find out. Personally, I don't think that they will have the kill ability as a scum that can move time, has NK's and a partner who recruits... well, that seems a bit over powered for a vig, guard, TL and 1-2 unspecified roles to combat.

[Kessobahn]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

I really don't think the scum TL could kill. Leaving aside the fact that the roles (aside from the one undisclosed town role) have been named, it wouldn't make any sense to give them an NK ability. The scum winning conditions are to gain a majority, NOT kill town. As I said earlier, they seem more like a cult than standard scum.

Also, this ^