[Ryadd Eleis]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 13 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

I admire silent stalker night killers. They make wonderful rugs.

Ryadd what is your opinion on Denul and Thy?

None yet. I am curious about Ruse though. I have no problem with a blind vote on a low poster, but Ruse implies that the vote wasn't blind. Not to mention that 10 minutes into the game seems a bit early for pressure voting in the first place. And the reaction to your post seems contrived.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

I think it's unlikely that Denul is fake symping Thyr (as suggested by Ruse), and that it's more likely to be a symp clue, which does happen from time to time. I'm not overly suspicious of the post in itself, as in it doesn't seem like he's really stretching for an excuse to make the joke vote. On the posts themselves, Ruse's is weirder, and atm there is not much more to go on.

Also, it's early day one. You seem to be trying to direct people pretty strongly for how early it is. Are you that confident at this stage? I mean, "attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy." - really? There's plenty of time for discussion, I'm quite happy to discuss Thyr and Denul, but am also happy to discuss other people. That's not de-railing, that's just not getting tunnel vision at the beginning of day one...

I agree with pretty much all of that.

[Kilava]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

If you guys haven't guess I am not going to let people slide by in this game.

Thanks for telling us...

[Kilava]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

My reaction to Pallid is only as far as his interaction with me. Why would I vote for him. I voted for Thy because I believe that Denul was attempting to signal thy with his early (not counting vote). I am making no accusations against Pallid other then calling him a retard. Which also holds true for everyone who plays mafia and isn't me. But that is just experience. OMGUS only counts as far as voting for someone after they had voted for you. The response to Pallid wasn't about orginality but about his conviction in his suspicions. Rather then pallaid saying " hey I said that earlier and am going to vote for either Denul or Thy based on that observation" he instead goes hey I said that earlier your just coping me and not adding anything. Ok so. Is he really suspicious of them? Or is he pissed that I didn't credit him with seeing the sympage. Pallid shouldn't care if I or anyone follow up on his observation. I couldn't care less about someone following up on an observation.

The only accusation that I have made of Pallid is that he has no conviction to vote for whom he suspects. If you have a problem with that then you are a fucking moron. Which based on your obvious idiotic reading of the thread you are. Rather then looking at or making a comment about what is being posted you I.e. the vote for Thy by Denul and the random vote by and logic by Ruse. You instead follow ruse with a vote on my for being hostile in a mafia game toward a player who I haven't voted for. Do me a favor or better yet do a favor for yourself because I am an asshole who you won't do any favors for. Learn how to look at a thread and read a thread before you post. You don't make any sense and you lower your own and everyone else's IQ by pretending to.

OMGUS is not just voting someone after they've voted you, it's attacking someone for attacking you. Interactions aren't just defined by votes.

Why should you care if Pallid votes them or not? There is such a thing as subtle pushing you know. There is a difference between caring that someone's following an observation, and pointing out that someone isn't adding anything new to the thread.

I'm not voting you for being hostile (though it does ping the scumdar a little when you've also drawn a connection between quiet play and scum). Nice strawman though.

It just seems like you've decided that you can't be accused of over-reacting if you build up a hostile persona. It would hardly be the first time that scum have played to the idea that they are quiet and wouldn't jump into the limelight.

Being hostile for the sake of it is not useful.

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

My reaction to Pallid is only as far as his interaction with me. Why would I vote for him. I voted for Thy because I believe that Denul was attempting to signal thy with his early (not counting vote). I am making no accusations against Pallid other then calling him a retard. Which also holds true for everyone who plays mafia and isn't me. But that is just experience. OMGUS only counts as far as voting for someone after they had voted for you. The response to Pallid wasn't about orginality but about his conviction in his suspicions. Rather then pallaid saying " hey I said that earlier and am going to vote for either Denul or Thy based on that observation" he instead goes hey I said that earlier your just coping me and not adding anything. Ok so. Is he really suspicious of them? Or is he pissed that I didn't credit him with seeing the sympage. Pallid shouldn't care if I or anyone follow up on his observation. I couldn't care less about someone following up on an observation.

The only accusation that I have made of Pallid is that he has no conviction to vote for whom he suspects. If you have a problem with that then you are a fucking moron. Which based on your obvious idiotic reading of the thread you are. Rather then looking at or making a comment about what is being posted you I.e. the vote for Thy by Denul and the random vote by and logic by Ruse. You instead follow ruse with a vote on my for being hostile in a mafia game toward a player who I haven't voted for. Do me a favor or better yet do a favor for yourself because I am an asshole who you won't do any favors for. Learn how to look at a thread and read a thread before you post. You don't make any sense and you lower your own and everyone else's IQ by pretending to.

OMGUS is not just voting someone after they've voted you, it's attacking someone for attacking you. Interactions aren't just defined by votes.

Why should you care if Pallid votes them or not? There is such a thing as subtle pushing you know. There is a difference between caring that someone's following an observation, and pointing out that someone isn't adding anything new to the thread.

I'm not voting you for being hostile (though it does ping the scumdar a little when you've also drawn a connection between quiet play and scum). Nice strawman though.

It just seems like you've decided that you can't be accused of over-reacting if you build up a hostile persona. It would hardly be the first time that scum have played to the idea that they are quiet and wouldn't jump into the limelight.

Being hostile for the sake of it is not useful.

I think that your scumdar is like your gaydar and only set off when a cock is in your ass.

Speaking of strawmaing you are doing a tap dancers job of not answering my question on what you think about Denul and Thy or for that matter Ruse?

[Kilava]

Ryadd Eleis, on 13 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

I admire silent stalker night killers. They make wonderful rugs.

I can't say I've ever bought a rug from a silent stalker night killer so I'll just take your word.

Also another potential symp clue for those keeping tally.

[Kilava]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

I think that your scumdar is like your gaydar and only set off when a cock is in your ass.

Speaking of strawmaing you are doing a tap dancers job of not answering my question on what you think about Denul and Thy or for that matter Ruse?

What a delightful Dkt wannabe you are...

Speaking of strawmanning, you don't really seem to know what it means. And are apparently doing a blind tap dancers job of reading the thread...

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

As for my avoiding Thyr and Denul, you might want to notice that I actually have already mentioned it, in the post you quoted.

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Ruse seems to be jumping to overly complex suspicions for how early in the game it is. Fake symping as a deliberate angle does not seem very plausible. Less common at least than symp clue votes.

By the way do you have an opinion on the issue?

I think it's unlikely that Denul is fake symping Thyr (as suggested by Ruse), and that it's more likely to be a symp clue, which does happen from time to time. I'm not overly suspicious of the post in itself, as in it doesn't seem like he's really stretching for an excuse to make the joke vote. On the posts themselves, Ruse's is weirder, and atm there is not much more to go on.

Also, it's early day one. You seem to be trying to direct people pretty strongly for how early it is. Are you that confident at this stage? I mean, "attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy." - really? There's plenty of time for discussion, I'm quite happy to discuss Thyr and Denul, but am also happy to discuss other people. That's not de-railing, that's just not getting tunnel vision at the beginning of day one...

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

By the way do you have an opinion on the issue? Or is your opinion that you think that I am overreacting to nothing. In which case do you think that I am scum. If your town you should be trying to find scum. So vote for me if you think that I am scum otherwise process what has happened in the game so far and vote for the person who you think is likely scum. I.e. Making scummy moves trying not to stand out. Or continue being a moron. It doesn't matter to me.

An opinion on which issue? Whether or not Pallid should have voted?

I think you're over-reacting to a very slight bit of pressure, and it makes you seem over anxious to be seen as contributing/too worried about being accused of rehashing other people. Ofc I'm voting you because I think you are likely scummy. Your post just seems to be basic mafia 101.

What the fuck is it with you and fucking Pallid? The question isn't about fucking pallid you retarded evolution reject. The fucking question is about fucking Denul and fucking THY and or anything about Ruse?

If you think that I am scummy fine. But what the fuck does Pallid have to do with anything. What do you mean by mafia 101? You have no opinion about Denul or Thy because you either don't think that there is anything to have an opinion about or because your a fucking twit who couldn't put his shoes on the right feet with out your mommy helping. You think that a vote on me is pressure. If I was scum then it might be. The fact that you think that I am in front and asking question and wanting answers makes me suspicious and scum just tells me that you can't tell scummy players dicks from your momma's tit in the dark.

Now lets talk about your willful ignoring of my now repeated questions about your retarded opinion on Denul and Thy also your willful and pathetic attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy.

Why Pallid? Maybe because the majority of my post was addressing your post about Pallid not voting and you gave no indication as to which "issue" you were talking about?

What I mean by Mafia 101 is stuff like this:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

If your town you should be trying to find scum. So vote for me if you think that I am scum otherwise process what has happened in the game so far and vote for the person who you think is likely scum.

The town should be trying to find the scum? I should vote for the person I think is scum? Wow, thanks for telling me, that never would have occurred to me in a game where that is the whole fucking point you twat.

Oh look, I can swear as well.

Though it is interesting that in a post where you make sure to be loud and obnoxious you also make sure to draw the connection between scum and quiet play.

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

[...] likely scum. I.e. Making scummy moves trying not to stand out. Or continue being a moron. It doesn't matter to me.

Being obtuse about what you're asking and then accusing them of willfully ignoring the questions is a bit rich too.

I don't think it's suspicious to ask questions, but nice strawman. I do think it's suspicious to get massively defensive when someone points out the questions you're asking aren't entirely new.

As for my avoiding Thyr and Denul, you might want to notice that I actually have already mentioned it, in the post you quoted.

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Ruse seems to be jumping to overly complex suspicions for how early in the game it is. Fake symping as a deliberate angle does not seem very plausible. Less common at least than symp clue votes.

By the way do you have an opinion on the issue?

I think it's unlikely that Denul is fake symping Thyr (as suggested by Ruse), and that it's more likely to be a symp clue, which does happen from time to time. I'm not overly suspicious of the post in itself, as in it doesn't seem like he's really stretching for an excuse to make the joke vote. On the posts themselves, Ruse's is weirder, and atm there is not much more to go on.

Also, it's early day one. You seem to be trying to direct people pretty strongly for how early it is. Are you that confident at this stage? I mean, "attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy." - really? There's plenty of time for discussion, I'm quite happy to discuss Thyr and Denul, but am also happy to discuss other people. That's not de-railing, that's just not getting tunnel vision at the beginning of day one...

Seeing an obvious mistake and wanting to lynch the person who makes the mistake is not tunnel vision that is just smart town play. Well lets see the last time people ignored a day one symp voting when the votes don't count it turned out to be the head of a scum faction. I think that it is most likely a newb symp who would make that kind of mistake. So me trying to get people to pressure either denul or thy will hopefully bring out the 3rd member of the scum faction. But I suspect that I will be modding by this time tomorrow.

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

What a delightful Dkt wannabe you are...

DKT please. As much as I admire the man I have won my fair share of pissing contests with him over the years. There is no one whom I am like nor is there anyone who is like me. No need to further insult your intelligence by acting like I am DKT.

[Kilava]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

What a delightful Dkt wannabe you are...

There is no one whom I am like nor is there anyone who is like me.

I think you may have misunderstood when you were told that no one likes you

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 13 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

I admire silent stalker night killers. They make wonderful rugs.

I can't say I've ever bought a rug from a silent stalker night killer so I'll just take your word.

Also another potential symp clue for those keeping tally.

I noticed also. Ryadd is also doing a good job of posting on thread and not being hostile or really stating an opinion. Notice that he agrees with your opinion but adds nothing to it himself. Holding his cards close to his vest. That way he minimizes anyone's ability to successfully build a case on him later in the game.

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

What a delightful Dkt wannabe you are...

There is no one whom I am like nor is there anyone who is like me.

I think you may have misunderstood when you were told that no one likes you

Also not me. I know my level of like and during game time it is quite low.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Well lets see the last time people ignored a day one symp voting when the votes don't count it turned out to be the head of a scum faction. I think that it is most likely a newb symp who would make that kind of mistake. So me trying to get people to pressure either denul or thy will hopefully bring out the 3rd member of the scum faction. But I suspect that I will be modding by this time tomorrow.

Okey. I'll bite on the meta cookie.

Vote Thyr

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 29 hours 16 minutes remaining.

14 players still alive: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Kilava, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Serc, Spite, Ruse, Ryadd Eleis, Thyrllan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

2 votes Trake: Ruse, Kilava
2 votes Thyrllan: Trake, Ryadd Eleis
1 vote Kilava: Kalse


Players not voted: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Serc, Spite, Thyrllan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 May 2013 - 08:04 PM

[Kilava]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Seeing an obvious mistake and wanting to lynch the person who makes the mistake is not tunnel vision that is just smart town play. Well lets see the last time people ignored a day one symp voting when the votes don't count it turned out to be the head of a scum faction. I think that it is most likely a newb symp who would make that kind of mistake. So me trying to get people to pressure either denul or thy will hopefully bring out the 3rd member of the scum faction. But I suspect that I will be modding by this time tomorrow.

I have no objection to pressuring people. But since getting as much information as we can is what we want (obviously hitting scum on top of that is great, but it is day one and that doesn't happen much), focusing too much on them doesn't seem like a great idea.

Wouldn't go so far as obvious mistake, also not really sure if it happening last game makes it more likely or not. Ofc it does happen from time to time. Still think Ruse's vote is stranger, just not sure where it suggests we should look in terms of scuminess.

Also your last sentence is yet another annoying habit. It's early day one, lots of people haven't even commented seriously, and you're getting all "woe is me".

[Kilava]

I'm off for a bit, probably back in a few hours.

[Trake]

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Seeing an obvious mistake and wanting to lynch the person who makes the mistake is not tunnel vision that is just smart town play. Well lets see the last time people ignored a day one symp voting when the votes don't count it turned out to be the head of a scum faction. I think that it is most likely a newb symp who would make that kind of mistake. So me trying to get people to pressure either denul or thy will hopefully bring out the 3rd member of the scum faction. But I suspect that I will be modding by this time tomorrow.

I have no objection to pressuring people. But since getting as much information as we can is what we want (obviously hitting scum on top of that is great, but it is day one and that doesn't happen much), focusing too much on them doesn't seem like a great idea.

Wouldn't go so far as obvious mistake, also not really sure if it happening last game makes it more likely or not. Ofc it does happen from time to time. Still think Ruse's vote is stranger, just not sure where it suggests we should look in terms of scuminess.

Also your last sentence is yet another annoying habit. It's early day one, lots of people haven't even commented seriously, and you're getting all "woe is me".

Not woe is me. More of a threat then anything else.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Not woe is me. More of a threat then anything else.

I get more of a "please kill me 'cause you're all too stupid for me to waste my time talking with" vibe. Not that that isn't a form of "woe is me".

[Denul]

Back and catching up while working...

But first

remove vote

[Denul]

Ahahaha you guys are so serious

Alas for the good old days of nonsense spamming on day one

*mournful*