[Trake]

I agree that Ruses vote is suspicious. His logic is completely off suggesting that scum would want to set someone up on day 1 is completely off of the radar, and his vote on me is just wacky.

[Denul]

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

By the way do you have an opinion on the issue? Or is your opinion that you think that I am overreacting to nothing. In which case do you think that I am scum. If your town you should be trying to find scum. So vote for me if you think that I am scum otherwise process what has happened in the game so far and vote for the person who you think is likely scum. I.e. Making scummy moves trying not to stand out. Or continue being a moron. It doesn't matter to me.

An opinion on which issue? Whether or not Pallid should have voted?

I think you're over-reacting to a very slight bit of pressure, and it makes you seem over anxious to be seen as contributing/too worried about being accused of rehashing other people. Ofc I'm voting you because I think you are likely scummy. Your post just seems to be basic mafia 101.

What the fuck is it with you and fucking Pallid? The question isn't about fucking pallid you retarded evolution reject. The fucking question is about fucking Denul and fucking THY and or anything about Ruse?

If you think that I am scummy fine. But what the fuck does Pallid have to do with anything. What do you mean by mafia 101? You have no opinion about Denul or Thy because you either don't think that there is anything to have an opinion about or because your a fucking twit who couldn't put his shoes on the right feet with out your mommy helping. You think that a vote on me is pressure. If I was scum then it might be. The fact that you think that I am in front and asking question and wanting answers makes me suspicious and scum just tells me that you can't tell scummy players dicks from your momma's tit in the dark.

Now lets talk about your willful ignoring of my now repeated questions about your retarded opinion on Denul and Thy also your willful and pathetic attempts to try to derail the discussion from Denul and Thy.

+1/2 mark for effort I suppose. Imagination is a bit lacking.

Nothing much happening except some useless posturing. I'll probably be back later since the thread is unlikely explode with excitingenss in the next couple of hours.
The Thyr thing might be appealing as a day 1 lynch to people, except that since I'm the one involved I happen to know my vote on Thyr was just messing around

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 27 hours 20 minutes remaining.

14 players still alive: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Kilava, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Serc, Spite, Ruse, Ryadd Eleis, Thyrllan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night. 

2 votes Trake: Ruse, Kilava
2 votes Thyrllan: Trake, Ryadd Eleis
1 vote Kilava: Kalse


Players not voted: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Serc, Spite, Thyrllan 

[Kalse]

What is wrong with you people? Path-Shaper hasn't been lynched yet? He is clearly spysat117 and has been recruited by Big Ben.

We need to kill him before he kills us.

[Serc]

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:40 AM, said:

Blah blah blah. Had a yada

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 13 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Also, check my rockin' panther avatar.

Vote Kilava

Only scum would admire a silent stalker killer who is able to hide in the night.

Kalse, on 13 May 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

What is wrong with you people? Path-Shaper hasn't been lynched yet? He is clearly spysat117 and has been recruited by Big Ben.

We need to kill him before he kills us.

So, minimal (actually, no) content and a vote in shortly after a (however spurious) case against Trake. Care to justify your vote a little, Kalse? Beyond some downright shoddy distraction to the only real interaction between alts so far?

As an aside, before anyone else brings it up, having looked into it (don't go there, really, don't) there's a pair of butt-beams pouring forth from a pair of arses in my avatar. Now were I thinking that PS is setting me up I'd be looking for another avatar featuring a pair of something - we do after all have a paired killer around and I may be being paranoid but hiding the obvious in plain sight is a very old trick. Just to get it out before anyone else brings it up Now we haven't seen Spite yet...

Look at my avatar, you know you want to.

Now zoom in.



Closer.





Clooooseeeerrrr!





Hey, I did it, now you all feel my pain.

[Anthras]

What a confusing mess to catch up on. Anything I wanted to respond to has already been said by others, especially Kilava in response to Trake.

As for the cases:

Trake seems a little jumpy at this point, and has an odd tendency to over-explain posts while supplying shitty useful commentary and how it relates to Grand Mafia Strategy. That said, we've seen play like Trake's many times before, and often come up with an ambitious town instead of stupid scum. Not to say we overlook the fellow, but seeing as its day one we can afford to step back and take a few breaths.

As for Ruse,

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

I agree that Ruses vote is suspicious. His logic is completely off suggesting that scum would want to set someone up on day 1 is completely off of the radar, and his vote on me is just wacky.

I don't agree with Trake here. Ruse's logic seems obvious: make a stab in the dark, then judge reaction. This is old stuff. Ruse explained that Trake's reaction -- providing an alternate target than himself without initially acknowledging the vote on himself -- seemed to be an attempt to redirect attention away from himself. Whether or not this was actually the case is impossible to say at this point, but Ruse's logic is pretty straightforward.

Denul's vote for Thyr. Seemed like a joke vote. However, Trake did manage to dig up that example from the last game. Might be something to it.


As is, I'm not going to vote haphazardly. It is day one, so there is not reason to go crazy. Lots of time left.

[Thyrllan]

If I have this right, there seems to be some suspicion on me? But it's because of something someone else did, rather than anything I've done (indeed, I'm not sure what I could have done over the course of two posts).
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to that then. Perhaps I would suggest that a finder could do a find on me to check?

[Serc]

Assuming, of course, that there is a finder.

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

[Thyrllan]

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

Assuming, of course, that there is a finder.

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

Oh. Would there not be?

[Ryadd Eleis]

Thyrllan, on 13 May 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:

If I have this right, there seems to be some suspicion on me? But it's because of something someone else did, rather than anything I've done (indeed, I'm not sure what I could have done over the course of two posts).
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to that then. Perhaps I would suggest that a finder could do a find on me to check?

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

Assuming, of course, that there is a finder.

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

Oh Dear Lord, we commend the body of our soon departed brother Thyrllan to the earth from which he came. One innocent slip and he is gone. Dear Lord, please have mercy on Brother Thyrllan's soul, for Trake shall not.

[Eldat Pressen]

Serc, on 13 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

Assuming, of course, that there is a finder.

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

What do you mean assuming? There is no finder. Your own quote shows that. Lay the smack down on Thyr when he fucks up. You are being too nice and agreeable

vote Serc

for being middle of the road.

Also, Thyr... pull your head out of your ass. Based on that comment alone I am guessing you are a confused inno, as no scum is that blatant on day one... but please try to limit the number of dumbass posts that will be attacked by any and all...

[Thyrllan]

Right, yeah, my bad. Guess I should read the OP a few more times to get my head focused on this game.

So is Denul trying to set me up? I don't know why he has voted for me.

[Denul]

I was just messing around

But apparently we no longer do messing around Day 1. First no more dragonsecks and now no talking crap. Boooooo.

[Kilava]

For someone playing the confused inno, Thyr still does manage to pull out the standard response to symp cases (based on someone elses actions etc), rather coolly.

[Kilava]

Also asking to be found is a poor show. Particularly before the finder (if there was one) is actually revealed.

Not sure if I buy this. I mean, if he's a confused inno, it seems to me that he would be more likely to be well acquainted with the OP, rather than missing information from it.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Kilava, on 14 May 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

Also asking to be found is a poor show. Particularly before the finder (if there was one) is actually revealed.
Not sure if I buy this. I mean, if he's a confused inno, it seems to me that he would be more likely to be well acquainted with the OP, rather than missing information from it.

I'm buying it. I think.

Thyrllan, on 13 May 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:

If I have this right, there seems to be some suspicion on me? But it's because of something someone else did, rather than anything I've done (indeed, I'm not sure what I could have done over the course of two posts). I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to that then. Perhaps I would suggest that a finder could do a find on me to check?

Only a complete neophyte would be that polite. (Or an evil genius.)
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[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 23 hours remaining.

14 players still alive: Anthras, Denul, Eldat Pressen, Kalse, Kilava, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Serc, Spite, Ruse, Ryadd Eleis, Thyrllan, Trake

8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night. 

2 votes Trake: Ruse, Kilava
1 vote Thyrllan: Trake,
1 vote Kilava: Kalse
1 vote Serc: Eldat Pressen


Players not voted: Anthras, Denul, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ryadd Eleis, Serc, Spite, Thyrllan  

[Kilava]

I'm off to bed. Happy enough with my vote that I'm going to leave it on. At this stage, I'd be happy to vote Thyr, less for the Denul symp possibility and more for playing the noob card.

Anthras, on 13 May 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

I don't agree with Trake here. Ruse's logic seems obvious: make a stab in the dark, then judge reaction. This is old stuff.

Not sure how far I agree with this. "I was going for a reaction" is a pretty common excuse. Going for a reaction on it's own isn't necessarily useful. After all, it depends what they're reacting to - most people will react to a wild enough accusation. It's a question of whether the reaction is warranted.

I'm not hugely fond of the part of this post below about how scum play, because scum is played in a variety of ways and that does include drawing attention. Nonetheless, the reaction seems pretty fair to me. If Ruse's accusation had seemed more solid, then perhaps being told to fuck off would be a suspicious reaction. That is the problem with just pushing for a reaction without much substance behind the push.

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

*sarcasm*
Ahh so you are going off of the tried and true and complete making sense theory that scum wants to be out and making suspicious movements on day one. I am sure that if you go back for the 100+ games you will find that theory is perfectly solid. Because it is known that scum wants nothing more to draw attention to themselves right off the bat. Your brilliance is only shared by your good looks. *sarcasm*

I get a similar feeling here. Again don't really like Trake's assumption about low-lying scum, but ultimately it doesn't seem like a particularly suspicious reaction.

Trake, on 13 May 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Ruse, on 13 May 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Joke votes aren't meant to make sense sonny. If you want to be serious then that is up to you.


The whole vote before the timer begins is a good way for a killer pair to concoct the role of pretend symp and lynch an innocent. I wouldn't put it past you being Denul's partner. That way we think Denul is symp and so try and make connections to who his master is. Therefore not voting Denul. Now you coming on and making the case against Thyr makes me believe you could be connected that way.

Now you are attempting to say that Denul is scum and that himself and me are conspiring to set up a member of town on day one. Why would scum need to do that? If I was a killer then I would be making no waves and as few posts as possible to make sure that I was under no pressure. That way I could kill at night and let town lynch themselves as they are wonton to do. What you suggest makes no sense because it draws attention to scum which is something that they want to avoid at all costs. That is why it is a mistake by Denul to signal his master not a mistake by Thy. Your rapid and unfamiliarity with how scum functions and they kind of presence that they typically have indicates that either you are a noob or are doing a mildly retarded job of attempting to discredit me by strawmanning.

Ultimately, I'm not sure if justifying Ruse's actions as pushing for a reaction really works for me. After all, what would be a suspicious reaction? The fake-symping case is so flimsy that it would take a really vast level of reaction for me to think it was unwarranted. If he is pushing for a reaction, he isn't doing it very well, so I'm not sure I'm that convinced.

Ruse's behaviour has been odd, and I'd also be willing to vote that way.

[Spite]

Not bad for first day postings. It looks like many would prefer to skip the normal first day rubbish. I didn't think there would be anything interesting posted so far.

[Kalse]

Professor Plum did it in the Billard room with the horseshoe.