[Kilava]

Wow, we're really trotting out all the traditional bloody idiot arguments this game aren't we.

Being wrong does not equal being scum.

[Ruse]

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Kilava, on 20 May 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Please logically justify how having you around is more helpful. The extra inno you keep talking about makes zero difference, and in fact statistically hinders us. Do you really think having someone around who had a no lynch in really suspicious circumstances is going to help the town, more than having a CF and being able to move onto other things?

Logically? If he is town and knows he is town then that is one more town to help us lynch. If he dies then WCS state that there are 3 scum ready to manipulate the thread against 4 town. Now we Have 5 town against 3 scum.

Not only that but if Spite CF's as town then what can you glean from that? It is not like he has had much interaction with the remaining players.

I can see your point about the odd/even rule if it was like you and I up for the lynch, or someone that have had cases cast against them but left behind, like Trake/Pallid. THAT would give us information and help us a lot more. The fact that he didn't hammer himself is a good point in his favour. Why didn't anyone else hammer him? To use that confusion. That is why. Trake/Anthras and whoever else didn't vote. Trake gets the benefit of the doubt because of RL reasons. Anthras has no excuse. You Kilava Pussy footed around with him anmd in the end there was no lynch. It is not like we had a very productive day. Garnering discussion with only 4 hours to go is fucking bad and you should know that any lynch was worth it at that stage. Once the votes went on Spite that should have been that. Not bringing up new cases like Anthras did, or voting Monok like you did.

Jesus, I'm really having to argue why lynch is better than no lynch?

Spite CF'ing inno would have reduced the suspect pool. It would've given us info on him, and Anthras notably, given Anthras' no vote. Lynches give info. His may not have been the most info heavy but that's because for most of the game he's been completely coasting along, until under pressure.

If there is the confusion from someone else not hammering him, he leaves us open to that exact confusion. With a CF, we would have a much better idea of how to look at the people who didn't hammer him. The most obvious connection with the lack of a hammer is Anthras being Spite's symp. If we knew all Spite was inno, that wouldn't even be an issue.

I'd made it very clear I was around to vote spite.

As you say, any lynch was worth it at that point. Any inno would know that. Except apparently Spite.

I am pissed we didn't get a lynch but i'm not pissed at Spite for not self voting. More like Anthras/Trake/Monok for not voting.

[Trake]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Kilava, on 20 May 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Please logically justify how having you around is more helpful. The extra inno you keep talking about makes zero difference, and in fact statistically hinders us. Do you really think having someone around who had a no lynch in really suspicious circumstances is going to help the town, more than having a CF and being able to move onto other things?

Logically? If he is town and knows he is town then that is one more town to help us lynch. If he dies then WCS state that there are 3 scum ready to manipulate the thread against 4 town. Now we Have 5 town against 3 scum.

Not only that but if Spite CF's as town then what can you glean from that? It is not like he has had much interaction with the remaining players.

I can see your point about the odd/even rule if it was like you and I up for the lynch, or someone that have had cases cast against them but left behind, like Trake/Pallid. THAT would give us information and help us a lot more. The fact that he didn't hammer himself is a good point in his favour. Why didn't anyone else hammer him? To use that confusion. That is why. Trake/Anthras and whoever else didn't vote. Trake gets the benefit of the doubt because of RL reasons. Anthras has no excuse. You Kilava Pussy footed around with him anmd in the end there was no lynch. It is not like we had a very productive day. Garnering discussion with only 4 hours to go is fucking bad and you should know that any lynch was worth it at that stage. Once the votes went on Spite that should have been that. Not bringing up new cases like Anthras did, or voting Monok like you did.

Jesus, I'm really having to argue why lynch is better than no lynch?

Spite CF'ing inno would have reduced the suspect pool. It would've given us info on him, and Anthras notably, given Anthras' no vote. Lynches give info. His may not have been the most info heavy but that's because for most of the game he's been completely coasting along, until under pressure.

If there is the confusion from someone else not hammering him, he leaves us open to that exact confusion. With a CF, we would have a much better idea of how to look at the people who didn't hammer him. The most obvious connection with the lack of a hammer is Anthras being Spite's symp. If we knew all Spite was inno, that wouldn't even be an issue.

I'd made it very clear I was around to vote spite.

As you say, any lynch was worth it at that point. Any inno would know that. Except apparently Spite.

I am pissed we didn't get a lynch but i'm not pissed at Spite for not self voting. More like Anthras/Trake/Monok for not voting.

You can be pissed all you want at me. I told you where I was. At this point is there really a reason to keep this game going. I find Ruse boring and irritating and would rather this shit finish up so that I don't feel obligated to post.

[Trake]

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Wow, we're really trotting out all the traditional bloody idiot arguments this game aren't we.

Being wrong does not equal being scum.

It is cause we are dealing with one idiot and 4 players who can't be bothered.

[Kilava]

Remove Vote

Vote Ruse

I'm still happy to go for Spite or Anthras, and think the no lynch is dodgy as hell, but people don't really seem to care for that. Ruse has made this day about me and him again. Curious to note that he did leave me briefly a couple of days back to go for Trake instead, based on Trake being my partner, even when I pointed out that he should be testing scum first then going for partner. It wouldn't surprise me if he was happy to have me around.

I think there is a good chance he is a symp. But hitting scum at all is important today, and I think there is also a good chance of him being master.

I am surer of him being scum than anyone else, so even though I think Spite is unlikely to be a symp if he's scum, there is almost as much chance for me of Ruse being a master, because I think it's exceedingly likely that he's scum at all, whereas there is a chance Spite isn't.

[Ruse]

Trak go away, read the thread, come back and build a fucking case. It's easy to say I'm dumb but you haven't done fuck all all game, how is that superior to what I am contributing? You have far to fall from your High Horse.

[Trake]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Trak go away, read the thread, come back and build a fucking case. It's easy to say I'm dumb but you haven't done fuck all all game, how is that superior to what I am contributing? You have far to fall from your High Horse.

I am sorry did you say you wanted to suck my dick?

[Ruse]

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Ruse

I'm still happy to go for Spite or Anthras, and think the no lynch is dodgy as hell, but people don't really seem to care for that. Ruse has made this day about me and him again. Curious to note that he did leave me briefly a couple of days back to go for Trake instead, based on Trake being my partner, even when I pointed out that he should be testing scum first then going for partner. It wouldn't surprise me if he was happy to have me around.

I think there is a good chance he is a symp. But hitting scum at all is important today, and I think there is also a good chance of him being master.

I am surer of him being scum than anyone else, so even though I think Spite is unlikely to be a symp if he's scum, there is almost as much chance for me of Ruse being a master, because I think it's exceedingly likely that he's scum at all, whereas there is a chance Spite isn't.

So you have spent all day going on about this no lynch and then discard it, even though, in your own words, it is the biggest indication of scum.

[Kilava]

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Wow, we're really trotting out all the traditional bloody idiot arguments this game aren't we.

Being wrong does not equal being scum.

It is cause we are dealing with one idiot and 4 players who can't be bothered.

And the frustrating part is that some of them have to be town.

Town has made life very easy for scum this game.

[Trake]

I built my case on Pallid which used vote counts and vote positioning. Not random bullshit of feelings that you seem to like to use. So if you want to get down on your knees and crawl under my desk. Go right ahead. Otherwise go to the toliet and stick your head in and flush.

[Ruse]

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Trak go away, read the thread, come back and build a fucking case. It's easy to say I'm dumb but you haven't done fuck all all game, how is that superior to what I am contributing? You have far to fall from your High Horse.

I am sorry did you say you wanted to suck my dick?

does it taste nice?

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Kilava, on 21 May 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Ruse

I'm still happy to go for Spite or Anthras, and think the no lynch is dodgy as hell, but people don't really seem to care for that. Ruse has made this day about me and him again. Curious to note that he did leave me briefly a couple of days back to go for Trake instead, based on Trake being my partner, even when I pointed out that he should be testing scum first then going for partner. It wouldn't surprise me if he was happy to have me around.

I think there is a good chance he is a symp. But hitting scum at all is important today, and I think there is also a good chance of him being master.

I am surer of him being scum than anyone else, so even though I think Spite is unlikely to be a symp if he's scum, there is almost as much chance for me of Ruse being a master, because I think it's exceedingly likely that he's scum at all, whereas there is a chance Spite isn't.

So you have spent all day going on about this no lynch and then discard it, even though, in your own words, it is the biggest indication of scum.

In my mind it is, but you're certainly up there too.

If no one else gives a shit about it, there's not much help to town in continuing to bash away at it while we lynch an inno instead.

And let's not forget that you did the exact same thing with Trake. In fact, you did it worse, because you were going for him based on connection to me, while I'm going for you on your own merits.

To do what you'd done, I'd have to say "right, I think Spite and Anthras is scummy - let's not go for them and guess at the third member of the team instead!"

[Ruse]

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

I built my case on Pallid which used vote counts and vote positioning. Not random bullshit of feelings that you seem to like to use. So if you want to get down on your knees and crawl under my desk. Go right ahead. Otherwise go to the toliet and stick your head in and flush.

You have done nothing to sway us. How right do you think you are? You haven't persuaded anyone to follow you, as you know you are wrong. Why because you are scummy. I thought you were supposed to be a good player but all I see is an old man and his porch.

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I am pissed we didn't get a lynch but i'm not pissed at Spite for not self voting. More like Anthras/Trake/Monok for not voting.

Would you be willing to vote Anthras then?

But then, if Anthras is scum, why is he saving Spite? Or is he just doing it to distract us, making him, realistically, symp most likely.

[Kilava]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

I built my case on Pallid which used vote counts and vote positioning. Not random bullshit of feelings that you seem to like to use. So if you want to get down on your knees and crawl under my desk. Go right ahead. Otherwise go to the toliet and stick your head in and flush.

You have done nothing to sway us. How right do you think you are? You haven't persuaded anyone to follow you, as you know you are wrong. Why because you are scummy. I thought you were supposed to be a good player but all I see is an old man and his porch.

That's funny, you're hardly a new player yourself.

[Trake]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Trak go away, read the thread, come back and build a fucking case. It's easy to say I'm dumb but you haven't done fuck all all game, how is that superior to what I am contributing? You have far to fall from your High Horse.

I am sorry did you say you wanted to suck my dick?

does it taste nice?

I haven't gotten any complaints

[Monok Ochem]

I apologize for my shortcomings in this game; it seems the players who have worked most are unhappy because everyone isn't as involved, Let's not drag this out



Vote Kilava

I still think Kil & Trake are partners. Why, you may ask? Kilava is the lead poster, he's steering things. If I were scum and he wasn't, he'd have been dead already, unless he was steering things my way, and then you still have to worry he will figure you out and kill him anyway. Anybody that leads a mafia clinic every third post is dangerous to the opponent.

[Trake]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

I built my case on Pallid which used vote counts and vote positioning. Not random bullshit of feelings that you seem to like to use. So if you want to get down on your knees and crawl under my desk. Go right ahead. Otherwise go to the toliet and stick your head in and flush.

You have done nothing to sway us. How right do you think you are? You haven't persuaded anyone to follow you, as you know you are wrong. Why because you are scummy. I thought you were supposed to be a good player but all I see is an old man and his porch.

I think that I am as right as you are. Umm ka. So if it turns out that I am not scum then what are you going to do? Say change your avatar to say you like the feel of balls on your chin. I will change mine to say that you are correct and that I am a moron.

[Ruse]

I'm not as fully committed to voting Anthras no. You are my number one for removing scum.

I would vote for Anthras if I had to to get a lynch and remove a potential symp/killer.

If I thought Trake was 100% town I'd follow his vote onto Pallid but being D day I have to go with what I think is right. You can persuade me to lynch elsewhere, I do think Anthras could have been fake symping you, but it looks more like real symping.

[Trake]

Monok Ochem, on 21 May 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

I apologize for my shortcomings in this game; it seems the players who have worked most are unhappy because everyone isn't as involved, Let's not drag this out



Vote Kilava

I still think Kil & Trake are partners. Why, you may ask? Kilava is the lead poster, he's steering things. If I were scum and he wasn't, he'd have been dead already, unless he was steering things my way, and then you still have to worry he will figure you out and kill him anyway. Anybody that leads a mafia clinic every third post is dangerous to the opponent.

Mean while the retard who can't make a logical post or case is a boon to scum.