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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:00 PM

View PostGnaw, on 17 September 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I would like a board update before my next move,


Seriously? Does anyone besides Twelve actually read the first page?


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

If it doesn't matter what Tapper does, why am I waiting to do an action?
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:04 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Sure, I can wait. You have some sort of dastardly plan depending on what Tapper does?



Very dastardly. It actually doesn't depend on what Tapper does, because either way I'm going through. Tapper can either make it easier for both of us by moving his cruiser out the way, or we can have an utterly pointless fight which will only damage both of us instead if he doesn't.


You mean "us" as you and me? Or Tapper and you?

If it doesn't matter what Tapper does, why am I waiting to do an action?


View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I would like a board update before my next move, I am 50/50 whether to go into the GC this round or go for one big blow out in the last round. I want to hurt Twelve as much as possible. With no resistance to my homeworld or Vega you could more than make up for the income loss in your homeworld and then claim it back for VP's in the final round. By moving that Dread now I would be wasting a build/upgrade. What are your thoughts?

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I was thinking I would take both it and Mu Arae this round, giving me more actions to focus on defending them and/or getting even more points versus twelve next round. Plus, Morgoth will probably take Nu Phoenicis this round, meaning depending on the direction of play next round he would be able to influence Rigel before I get a chance to next round.


I have 3 moves this round. I wanted to move my dread to join my other forces but Morgoth has blocked that. What do you suggest, don't forget you are wanting me to hamper Twelve AND you to gain VP's to beat him. Is Vega not also prize enough? You could move one ship into Mu Arae and one into Vega. neutron Bomb, and influence and colonize.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Sure, I can wait. You have some sort of dastardly plan depending on what Tapper does?



Very dastardly. It actually doesn't depend on what Tapper does, because either way I'm going through. Tapper can either make it easier for both of us by moving his cruiser out the way, or we can have an utterly pointless fight which will only damage both of us instead if he doesn't.


You mean "us" as you and me? Or Tapper and you?

If it doesn't matter what Tapper does, why am I waiting to do an action?


View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I would like a board update before my next move, I am 50/50 whether to go into the GC this round or go for one big blow out in the last round. I want to hurt Twelve as much as possible. With no resistance to my homeworld or Vega you could more than make up for the income loss in your homeworld and then claim it back for VP's in the final round. By moving that Dread now I would be wasting a build/upgrade. What are your thoughts?

@drek


I was thinking I would take both it and Mu Arae this round, giving me more actions to focus on defending them and/or getting even more points versus twelve next round. Plus, Morgoth will probably take Nu Phoenicis this round, meaning depending on the direction of play next round he would be able to influence Rigel before I get a chance to next round.


I have 3 moves this round. I wanted to move my dread to join my other forces but Morgoth has blocked that. What do you suggest, don't forget you are wanting me to hamper Twelve AND you to gain VP's to beat him. Is Vega not also prize enough? You could move one ship into Mu Arae and one into Vega. neutron Bomb, and influence and colonize.


Vega is probably too far to reach this round, and not worth as many points so not as good for trying to beat twelve. Ideally I'd get Mu Arae and Rigel this round, since they are outer sectors away from twelve, then push for Pollux and maybe Altair next round, thereby going for the most VP possible. Moving your dread to Fomalhaut would not only free up an influence disc from a 1VP hex for me but would at least partially block a sneaky move by twelve towards Rigel early next round, as well.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Sure, I can wait. You have some sort of dastardly plan depending on what Tapper does?



Very dastardly. It actually doesn't depend on what Tapper does, because either way I'm going through. Tapper can either make it easier for both of us by moving his cruiser out the way, or we can have an utterly pointless fight which will only damage both of us instead if he doesn't.


You mean "us" as you and me? Or Tapper and you?

If it doesn't matter what Tapper does, why am I waiting to do an action?


View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I would like a board update before my next move, I am 50/50 whether to go into the GC this round or go for one big blow out in the last round. I want to hurt Twelve as much as possible. With no resistance to my homeworld or Vega you could more than make up for the income loss in your homeworld and then claim it back for VP's in the final round. By moving that Dread now I would be wasting a build/upgrade. What are your thoughts?

@drek


I was thinking I would take both it and Mu Arae this round, giving me more actions to focus on defending them and/or getting even more points versus twelve next round. Plus, Morgoth will probably take Nu Phoenicis this round, meaning depending on the direction of play next round he would be able to influence Rigel before I get a chance to next round.


I have 3 moves this round. I wanted to move my dread to join my other forces but Morgoth has blocked that. What do you suggest, don't forget you are wanting me to hamper Twelve AND you to gain VP's to beat him. Is Vega not also prize enough? You could move one ship into Mu Arae and one into Vega. neutron Bomb, and influence and colonize.


Vega is probably too far to reach this round, and not worth as many points so not as good for trying to beat twelve. Ideally I'd get Mu Arae and Rigel this round, since they are outer sectors away from twelve, then push for Pollux and maybe Altair next round, thereby going for the most VP possible. Moving your dread to Fomalhaut would not only free up an influence disc from a 1VP hex for me but would at least partially block a sneaky move by twelve towards Rigel early next round, as well.


Okay I will move it. Next go, are you sure the Hex beginning with f would not be better? I'd be closer to him and hopefully draw some of his ships out of the GC?
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

You can see him watching the thread as anonymously. Plotting!
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Okay I will move it. Next go, are you sure the Hex beginning with f would not be better? I'd be closer to him and hopefully draw some of his ships out of the GC?


Thanks. Not sure what other hex you mean? If you mean 103-Beta Leonis, then no, since it's a 2VP I think I'd best keep that one for now. Also, it's harder for him to move ships past your dread in Fomalhaut than in Beta Leonis (ie he could move an interceptor to Beta Leonis, than a dread past it to Rigel, whereas in Fomalhaut he needs more moves to get an interceptor to it since they don't have faster drives yet).

I don't see why we need to wait for Tapper, so I'll go ahead and:

Move Cruiser in Beta Delphini to Mu Arae

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:39 PM

And I updated the simple map on the front page too.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:46 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 17 September 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

You can see him watching the thread as anonymously. Plotting!



I'm not anonymous. You can see me reading up. I've had most of my moves more or less already figured out for this round done even before we started with provisionalss depending on what tech was available. I'm just waiting on all your slow asses to scheme and negotiate in a futile effort ot usurp my reign as undisputed points leader. It amuses me so. One player is suiciding to give another player a leg up and I still don't think it will be enough.

MWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

Gee. Even my old person decrepit wheeze has even cleared up. See how revitialized you all have made me. Peasant bring me my Gobblet so I can enjoy the show.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:47 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

And I updated the simple map on the front page too.



Sweet!!!

Thanks. It's been a while but once all the hexes are added I use it mainly for hex names and numbers.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Move Cruiser in Beta Delphini to Mu Arae


And it's Morgy's turn again. :)
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

PMs sent to both Tapper and Morgoth.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:59 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Sure, I can wait. You have some sort of dastardly plan depending on what Tapper does?



Very dastardly. It actually doesn't depend on what Tapper does, because either way I'm going through. Tapper can either make it easier for both of us by moving his cruiser out the way, or we can have an utterly pointless fight which will only damage both of us instead if he doesn't.


You mean "us" as you and me? Or Tapper and you?

If it doesn't matter what Tapper does, why am I waiting to do an action?




Because I thought we were trying to abide by the whole 'someone can't go back and change their action if the person after them has gone already' so if Tapper's action was to do nothing then he wouldn't be able to change it. Having said that, SS has gone too so it was kinda moot. But we seem to be playing with a bit more freedom to that rule this round anyway.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:04 PM

Also, D'rek, I feel that it's incumbent upon me to let you know that I am going for some/all of Pollux, Psi Capricorni, Mu Arae, and Vega this round. But you can have them next round.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:10 PM

I think by now Tapper would have made a move if he was planning it. All he did was warn us not to use his territory as a pass-through.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:53 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:


Because I thought we were trying to abide by the whole 'someone can't go back and change their action if the person after them has gone already' so if Tapper's action was to do nothing then he wouldn't be able to change it. Having said that, SS has gone too so it was kinda moot. But we seem to be playing with a bit more freedom to that rule this round anyway.


The only reason I felt comfortable skipping over Tapper is because he passed. And every other time he's passed this game he has made no reactions. We need to wait on Morgy this turn because he can certainly affect other players.

As for a 'bit more freedom' this round, I have no problem with somebody placing actions while waiting on another player. But they do so at their own risk.

Why did you suddenly get religion on the subject? You were fine skipping over Morgy yesterday. :)
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:56 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 17 September 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

I think by now Tapper would have made a move if he was planning it. All he did was warn us not to use his territory as a pass-through.


I agree. But I'm not going to make the decision for him. Nobody is making people take actions while we wait.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:04 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Also, D'rek, I feel that it's incumbent upon me to let you know that I am going for some/all of Pollux, Psi Capricorni, Mu Arae, and Vega this round. But you can have them next round.


How exactly are you going to manage that? Looks like you can only spend about 2 discs before you're bankrupt, 4 if you put one down in a hex with money slots. That doesn't seem like enough for you to block SS and have options towards all those hexes.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:44 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Also, D'rek, I feel that it's incumbent upon me to let you know that I am going for some/all of Pollux, Psi Capricorni, Mu Arae, and Vega this round. But you can have them next round.


How exactly are you going to manage that? Looks like you can only spend about 2 discs before you're bankrupt, 4 if you put one down in a hex with money slots. That doesn't seem like enough for you to block SS and have options towards all those hexes.



It is intriguing, isn't it? I did say SOME/all. What's probably most relevant to you is that Pollux is the one I'm least likely to end up in - so our interests might clash. As I said, you can have any/all of those hexes next round.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostD, on 17 September 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 September 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Also, D'rek, I feel that it's incumbent upon me to let you know that I am going for some/all of Pollux, Psi Capricorni, Mu Arae, and Vega this round. But you can have them next round.


How exactly are you going to manage that? Looks like you can only spend about 2 discs before you're bankrupt, 4 if you put one down in a hex with money slots. That doesn't seem like enough for you to block SS and have options towards all those hexes.


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