[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 19 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

I'm wondering why you have copied my move in there?

Do you seriously feel threatened by me?

I can't change my action now that you posted your action. That has been the rule we've followed all game.

[Galactic Council]

Ah I get it now. Just about to load the board update. Check in 1 min and it should be there.

[Tattersail_]

If you research to show that you cannot purchase the key then I will definitely move, if I move by trust and you get the key then I will retreat straight away against d'rek leaving her cruiser unscathed. Or is this not possible, i feel you're trying to trick me here Twelve.

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

If you research to show that you cannot purchase the key then I will definitely move, if I move by trust and you get the key then I will retreat straight away against d'rek leaving her cruiser unscathed. Or is this not possible, i feel you're trying to trick me here Twelve.

Of course he is, he just wants your dread pinned up in Eta Geminorum so he can attack you with only one dread.

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

D, on 19 July 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

I don't get what the benefit for twelve is... he agrees to let GP get extra resources from the artifact key and wants GP to take more systems for more income AND it seems he will give up a 3-VP reputation tile for a 1-VP ambassador with GP, all so that GP can be in a stronger position when they fight in later rounds (which GP outright says will definitely happen)...? What is twelve gaining out of this other than a bigger challenge at the end?

If you look at it from Twelve's point of view his production is great, he is pretty powerful and out of me and you he'd prefer to face me in end game rather than face you.

See, I don't get this, because you've been ahead of me all game. The only military tech I have that you don't are Gauss Shields and Neutron Bombs, while you have Tachyon Drives, Fusion Sources and Positron Computers that I don't have. You also have much higher science income so will have better tech, especially with a 6x Artifact Key research. Yeah, I can build another dread next round, but you already have both yours built! So why would twelve want to fight you at the end and not me? It doesn't make sense, and hence you should probably be a little suspicious.

[twelve]

D, on 19 July 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

If you research to show that you cannot purchase the key then I will definitely move, if I move by trust and you get the key then I will retreat straight away against d'rek leaving her cruiser unscathed. Or is this not possible, i feel you're trying to trick me here Twelve.

Of course he is, he just wants your dread pinned up in Eta Geminorum so he can attack you with only one dread.

That would be suicide on my part. Plus I've got Tapper sitting on my border who has nearly as impressive tech as Tatts has. Why not deal with him first and get you two to fight each other. If you are doing that you aren't attacking me.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 19 July 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

So question, Did Tapper build two cruisers or did he by antimatter cannons? His OP says he build 2 cruisers but I thought I saw on thread where he scratched that and researched antimatter cannons instead. My move was based on the fact he researched antimatter cannons. Can Tapper please clarify which is the correct move?

Antimatter.

[Tattersail_]

Scrap any provisionals that might be up. I'll change it when I get back to computer

[Galactic Council]

Khell is up, not you, so you have time to switch things around.

I see that you wish your provisionals scrapped, and will wait for an official order from you.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 19 July 2013 - 04:43 PM

[Gnaw]

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 19 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

I'm wondering why you have copied my move in there?

Do you seriously feel threatened by me?

he is trying to say he cannot change his move but it is fresh and I want to negotiate with him, unless you're adverse to this?

Tatts do you ever even notice that you love those mulligans when it's to your advantage but when it isn't you bawl your eyes out?

[Galactic Council]

Tapper's was 100% legit. There wasn't even a provisional move in before he posted the correction. Same as twelve's.

Lucky for him I was taking my sweet time figuring out what to do.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 19 July 2013 - 05:01 PM

[twelve]

Galactic Council, on 19 July 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tapper's was 100% legit. There wasn't even a provisional move in before he posted the correction. Same as twelve's.

Lucky for him I was taking my sweet time figuring out what to do.

Yeah I sent mine in last night hoping that you, Khell, Tatts and Morgoth had all gone even before I woke up hoping to get another action in today but alas I don't see it happening. Is Khell really on vaction next week? I thought I heard something about him being gone but I don't remember exactly where I heard that.

[Gnaw]

Galactic Council, on 19 July 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tapper's was 100% legit. There wasn't even a provisional move in before he posted the correction. Same as twelve's.

Lucky for him I was taking my sweet time figuring out what to do.

I was just busting his balls a bit.

[twelve]

CF,

Some corrections to my board from your latest map update. Two of my colonly ships need to show as used and my materials in the bank needs to drop to 8 as I spent 6 to build the interceptors.

[Galactic Council]

Minor details like 1 development each is something I could live with but I don't think it's strictly necessary

And I'd argue the Eridani are at a massive disadvantage despite their high money at the outset. They have 2 fewer action discs and are always running up a deficit as a result. Twelve got lucky that a) the flux missiles were drawn, giving him a chance at the GC production early and b ) that he was in a position to use all his starting money on quantum grid right away and c) that teh quantum grid was drawn early at all.

Twelve had some good luck this time, but a lot of things have to come together for Eridani to achieve such an early lead I think. Switching things around just for 1 race's success in 1 game seems a bit of an overreaction.


woops, wrong thread.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 19 July 2013 - 06:51 PM

[Galactic Council]

twelve, on 19 July 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

CF,

Some corrections to my board from your latest map update. Two of my colonly ships need to show as used and my materials in the bank needs to drop to 8 as I spent 6 to build the interceptors.

Fixed.

[Tattersail_]

So twelve are you still going to grab the key? My alliance of sorts still stands, if you can assure me them I can pin that ship.

[twelve]

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

So twelve are you still going to grab the key? My alliance of sorts still stands, if you can assure me them I can pin that ship.

I guess it depends on if you actually follow through with your end. If you don't pin her ship I have zero incentive to believe you plus you already proved this game that you can't really be trusted so lie to me and I will grab the artifact key as I would be horribly idiotic of me not to do so. But if you do attack her I'll grab something else, probably a source. It basically boils down to if you trust me or not.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 19 July 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

So twelve are you still going to grab the key? My alliance of sorts still stands, if you can assure me them I can pin that ship.

I guess it depends on if you actually follow through with your end. If you don't pin her ship I have zero incentive to believe you plus you already proved this game that you can't really be trusted so lie to me and I will grab the artifact key as I would be horribly idiotic of me not to do so. But if you do attack her I'll grab something else, probably a source. It basically boils down to if you trust me or not.

Betray your current ally to prove you are trustworthy!

Makes sense

[twelve]

D, on 19 July 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

twelve, on 19 July 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 19 July 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

So twelve are you still going to grab the key? My alliance of sorts still stands, if you can assure me them I can pin that ship.

I guess it depends on if you actually follow through with your end. If you don't pin her ship I have zero incentive to believe you plus you already proved this game that you can't really be trusted so lie to me and I will grab the artifact key as I would be horribly idiotic of me not to do so. But if you do attack her I'll grab something else, probably a source. It basically boils down to if you trust me or not.

Betray your current ally to prove you are trustworthy!

Makes sense />

Tatts has already proven to be more suited to playing as the pirates than CF has this game so yeah I'm not going to believe much that comes out of his mouth. I'm going to let his actions do his talking for him. If he commits his ships then he's commited as I don't see you backing out of a fight with him the way Gnaw did so I know that he will have his hands full for more than a round. Otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air and I know he's got something else up his sleeve so I need to grab the materials to prepare for whatever it is.