[Liosan]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

@Liosan:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

Yeah, same here. I was just speculating based on the game numbers. Given that the Parshendi are their own army, it could just as easily be 3 teams of 4, with Parshendi being 7 players. That sounds like it would be more in line with what Korvalain has said about the book.

And if I'm not mistaken, this was before Osseric even posted the one HE quoted. So yeah, don't be an asshole, read the thread.

So you ask me about mechanics, I work it out for myself, and then you say that I am only repeating shit. Tell me something..





If you created the phone and 4 weeks later I create the phone also but did not conciously know that you had created the phone then does that make you the better person? Or the person who created it first?

[Liosan]

When I did a quick read up I'm sorry I did not focus on the numbers. I was trying to figure out where you got the recruitment idea from. I mean, when I worked out the figures I didn't come across a recruiter ability because cult was mentioned no where in the OP and I think he'd give us a heads up if this was the case. He said no clues in the scenes. So how would we figure there was a recruiter if we are not looking for one?

[Path-Shaper]

Night is over:
The night was extremely active, after the successes and failures in obtaining Gemhearts, and death reigned on the plateaus.

Ampelas is dead. He was Parshendi and Brujah.

Tennes is dead. He was Sadeas's Elite Guard and Khell

Tulas Shorn is dead, He was Dalinar Kholin's Captain and Blend

Meanas is dead, he was Thanadar's Elite Guard and Gnaw

These death's caused quite a stir. Who had caused them? Who benefited from them? All in the camps wondered.


and yes, brujah has still yet to be lynched.



It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas

[Tulas Shorn]

---SNIPPED AS I AM DEAD---

This post has been edited by Tulas Shorn: 20 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

[Path-Shaper]

And please use Provisionals. I will count you as using no action if you dont' send in a prov. The 4 hour night is more for processing and maybe a few last minute changes, and to give me a time frame to resolve in than for me to wait for people to send in actions

[Liosan]

4 deaths!! Epic night. Every faction has lost a member so I am thinking this maybe a quicker game than I thought. More even too looking at it.

[Path-Shaper]

Scouts have spotted chasmfiends on The Bowl, The Saddle, and Elthas Plateau

[Liosan]

The 4 that died were all active too. Is there a significance to this?

[Liosan]

Path-Shaper, on 18 February 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

The Saddle, Sekas Plateau, and Maras Plateau have Chasmfiends on them today! Each chasmfiend can be broken open to take the valuable gemhearts inside their carapace!

It is Day 1. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

THE GAME IS ON

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

As the day wore on, highprinces and parshendi alike sent armies to multiple plateaus, in a race to collect the gemhearts encased in the chasmfiend chrysalis's. On Maras Plateau, Dalinar Kholin's forces arrived mere minutes before Thanadar's forces, and pushed back the Parshendi there with their superior discipline. On Sekas plateau, Sadeas's bridgemen allowed him to arrive before the parshendi, and he took the gemheart quickly, barely skirmishing with the Parshendi before he retreated back to his warcamp.

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 14 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Spite )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Meanas )
2 Votes for Telas ( Ampelas, Liosan )
1 Vote for Tennes ( Galain )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

Scouts have spotted chasmfiends on The Bowl, The Saddle, and Elthas Plateau

May I suggest to those of you who this matters to, that Dalinar go to the bowl, Thanadar go to the saddle and Sadeas go to the elthas so that you each get a chance of actually aquiring a gemheart? I do not know my leader but think this makes the best sense for whoever wants and needs gemhearts???

[Galain]

Well that makes up at least for the lack of a lynch.

[Galain]

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

The 4 that died were all active too. Is there a significance to this?

The same significance that there always is. People who piss other people off in mafia are usually targeted with night actions.

[Kaschan]

i'm here and going to catch up

[Fener]

What a train wreck.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Ampelas is dead. He was Parshendi and Brujah.

What do you think about this? Brujah CF'ed simply as Parshendi. Does it mean all Parshendi have the same abilities or does it Bru was the only Parshendi?

[Kaschan]

Ok, I did a read up on all 8 pages now that I have time to catch up. Here are my thoughts.

Osseric, on 19 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 19 February 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Well, peeps are crunchy on the outside and soft on the inside, kind of like an exoskeleton. The rabbits are in disguise

Firstly) Starship Troopers name drop. Please help me punish this in of itself for the sake of my asking very nicely.


Secondly) The ONLY cool thing about Starship Troopers, in my book, was the smoking hot red head that made you exclaim "Denise Richards, who?"(ALTHOUGH CLOSE)

Thirdly) The incredible hulk macro is just asking for it.

VOTE TELAS

Just saying, but Telas never mentioned Starship Troopers, you did. Might as well vote yourself now. Besides, the book was good, and the movie was better! I actually liked it, especially as it was the greatest thing that 12 year old me had ever seen. Now, it's the nostalgia.




Also Denise Richards was way hotter.

Edit. Formatting. IP board is mashing all my thoughts together into one ugly paragraph.

There seems to be some defending of Telas here by Osseric. That interests me. Why would someone go out on a limb and defend so early in the game?

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

As the day wore on, highprinces and parshendi alike sent armies to multiple plateaus, in a race to collect the gemhearts encased in the chasmfiend chrysalis's. On Maras Plateau, Dalinar Kholin's forces arrived mere minutes before Thanadar's forces, and pushed back the Parshendi there with their superior discipline. On Sekas plateau, Sadeas's bridgemen allowed him to arrive before the parshendi, and he took the gemheart quickly, barely skirmishing with the Parshendi before he retreated back to his warcamp.

regarding numbers in the game: It seems that 5v5v5v4 Would be the most logical set up. 4 being the parshendi. As someone noted earlier they probably work in pairs. This is supported by PS's scene. Notice that all three prince factions go after a the gemheart and 2 groups of parshendi. So basically it looks like we have princes with 5 person factions and 2 parchendi pairs that can work independently to obtain gemhearts. Whether that means they are a part of the same parshendi faction or each has individual VC's... I don't know.

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

PS may be a while. I'm not privvy to his schedule. My car battery is dead, and I'm waiting for my new beau to bring his thingies over and "jump me off" before work.
Wink wink

Just noting that Brujah is so paranoid about getting lynched he is pretending to be a girl. Oh the depths some people will sink too.

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

The Factions:
Highprince Thandar's Camp
Highprince Dalinar Kholin's Camp
Highprince Sadeas's Camp
The Parshendi


It doesn't mention cult. He even says it is a faction game yet you bring up recruitment. This wasn't hinted at anywhere. So not so stupid.



The Highprince's are all on the same side in the book even though they are competing for the Gemstones. The Parshendi are the main force set against them. This is early on in the books and he specifically said no Kaladin meaning joint assault will be out of the question. Also to note that the Parshendi field the same numbers as any one of the Highprince's armies. That said, say each faction had 3 people. (9). Then the Parshendi would need 9 people minimum to go against that set up. The Parshendi are the odd faction out so I would say that they would have the numerous numbers right now. If it was 4 to a faction (12) then the rest could quite easily be Parshendi. In fact running that scenario in my head, what links 19 and 22?



4 people each faction, leaves 7 Parshendi. (19)



5 people each faction leaves 7 Parshendi. (22)



That fits. It also means that lover pairs throughout the Parshendi is a wrong way of thought. I am not saying that there isn't lover pairs but I know I am not one and you mentioned mechanics.



So the question is why 7?

You seem obsessed with a 7 person Parshendi faction. I don't see how that would be balanced. I think you are barking up the wrong tree with the concentration on 7.

Fener, on 20 February 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Ampelas is dead. He was Parshendi and Brujah.

What do you think about this? Brujah CF'ed simply as Parshendi. Does it mean all Parshendi have the same abilities or does it Bru was the only Parshendi?

As stated above. I think the Parshendi are 4. Well, three now. I don't see how three could only be one, as you suggest. If he was a 1 person faction, he would have to be pretty beefed up, and that would normally mean lynchproofs and BP's which it doesn't seem he had.

[Kaschan]

Other than the osseric defending of Telas, I didn't see much interaction that would link one player to another. Even the interaction of the dead people seemed to be mostly among... well the dead people. As lio pointed out, they were high posters and most of their dealings were among themselves. None of them really attacked anyone except Tulas, and he is dead. though Amp did go after Telas. Maybe someone protecting Telas?

It's not much to go on, but subtle defending of Telas by Osseric, and Amp going after Telas and ending up dead. Makes me think Telas could be a power player.

vote Telas

[Kaschan]

I should be around on and off all day. I'm not married to my vote, but I would like to see where it goes as the coincidences seem to be piling up.

[Osseric]

Kaschan said:

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Other than the osseric defending of Telas, I didn't see much interaction that would link one player to another. Even the interaction of the dead people seemed to be mostly among... well the dead people. As lio pointed out, they were high posters and most of their dealings were among themselves. None of them really attacked anyone except Tulas, and he is dead. though Amp did go after Telas. Maybe someone protecting Telas?

It's not much to go on, but subtle defending of Telas by Osseric, and Amp going after Telas and ending up dead. Makes me think Telas could be a power player.

vote Telas

What did you think of Telas's overreaction regarding the whole recruitment thing? That was kinda sitting oddly with me, also making me think power player.
As for my defense of Telas, it was more of a tongue in cheek defense of starship troopers since Amp has poor taste in movies.

[Osseric]

Fener said:

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Path-Shaper said:

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Ampelas is dead. He was Parshendi and Brujah.

What do you think about this? Brujah CF'ed simply as Parshendi. Does it mean all Parshendi have the same abilities or does it Bru was the only Parshendi?

I don't know what it means, but I think that at this point we've ruled out him being alone. If he was by himself, there should have been a BP like kaschan was saying. There really isn't much info on the Parshendi in the book and there are never any names or ranks in the book that I can remember, so I'd guess that PS didn't want to make anything up and is solely identifying faction.

[Silanah]

I see a lot of people distancing from Parshendi here which is interesting.

On the dog and bone atm so difficult to reread but will be worth looking at when I get home. From memory nothing particularly bowls me over apart from Tulas and he is brown bread and not parshendi but will be worth looking at those who interacted with him.