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MAFIA 100 - The Centennial Game Thread

#4281 User is offline   Ryadd Eleis 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

View PostRyadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

So we know Serc CF'd Town and is okral
We know Kaschan CF'd town and is presumably Ryadd
I know that Denul was Town and is Aprahl.


I suppose we don't know that Pran Chole was town but if I did my math on day 9 right, he should be town based on deduction.

We know Barghast was town and is presumably Korv.

We don't know if King Duosi was town or scum, he was town in the Meng Hoa Game. He is now Dejim.


So I suppose it's conceivable that Kesso is town and Dejim or Korabas are the scum. But if I had to bet, I'd say Kesso was the scum.





Still doesn't add up though. For your numbers to work, you'd need two of those three to be scum.


Why? Scum are Fener, Togg, Shelly, Venesara, Ghennan *Kesso or one of the other's mentioned above.*, and last night's recruit who I have no clue who it is. That makes 7 which is how many I was told there was.




We'll have to wait and see what Nimander has to say.


Another thing - unless Togg is not a Meyern shield of Fener (and I don't know who else it could be), there is only one ORIGINAL Goodkinder left - either Sheltatha or Venesara.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

Another another thing. Although I'm not saying that we should necessarily take the risk - recruitment if it's still around may not be an everynight ability. For example, Amon could only recruit every other night I believe.

#4283 User is offline   Ryadd Eleis 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:09 PM

So Tulas, what are you saving those vigs for? Why not vig Togg, Shelly, Venesara, Ghennan, and another of your choosing, and then the rest of us lynch Fener. Simples.

#4284 User is offline   Okral Lom 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:19 PM

was that a serious question, RE?

you know he wants to have the hole cards

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

How do you know Tulas is saving vigs? I would say that if he is concerned that I am scum, he can always use one on me. I have another alt, and if it would put the matter to rest that I am not in fact scum, I don't think it would be entirely wasted. I think it should go towards the more likely scum leaders, but in light of making the faction lists more clear I could take the hit.

That said, leaving the SK alive while a sacrosanct is in the game still seems like a risky move in my mind.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:30 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 17 April 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

How do you know Tulas is saving vigs? I would say that if he is concerned that I am scum, he can always use one on me. I have another alt, and if it would put the matter to rest that I am not in fact scum, I don't think it would be entirely wasted. I think it should go towards the more likely scum leaders, but in light of making the faction lists more clear I could take the hit.

That said, leaving the SK alive while a sacrosanct is in the game still seems like a risky move in my mind.




He says he killed Tiamatha and presumably absorbed their ability - which was a 5-way day vig like we saw a few days ago.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:41 PM

If Kesso is telling the truth, Then Aparal, Dejim or Korabas will be the other . I guess it's possible that Apral was recruited before I got information on them way back on night 9. I had counted him as town based on something PS sent me... but that might have been standard form. All he's done is lay low. I get distinct town vibes from Korabas and Dejim and both of their 1st alt CF's support that.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:35 PM

I wonder what our guarding ability is like. The pool of people with the ability to kill at night is actually quite small - most likely only three. One of those is, unfortunately, unblockable according to PS - Fener. But that leaves only two others, three at most, who can kill at night and who can be guarded.



Thus, if we have guards or guard-like abilities around, our options are not so limited. We could go with either the Tulas lynch, or the other scum lynch. Guards can also presumably block recruitment attempts from either Shelly or Venesara, if one of them is recruiting.


I'm just mulling over various options here. I'm not deciding on anything till Nimander gets back.




Edit: Very late edit - just realised the last sentence of first paragraph didn't quite make the sense I wanted it to, so added 'others', and 'and who can be guarded.'

This post has been edited by Ryadd Eleis: 17 April 2013 - 08:03 PM


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:53 PM

What is the significance of Nimander on survivor night again? I don't quite track what you are saying.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:58 PM

to determine if the scum count is as you say, TS

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:02 PM

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:


What the fuck!!! We can't lynch you and we can't night kill you?!!! How the fuck did town ever have a chance in this game?


Shiiiit ... are you kidding?

I even got the Immunity Idol on Survivor Night.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:12 PM

Another possible option. Tulas vigs the targets I set out in a previous post (fifth one still to be decided upon), and then we lynch Fener, or we lynch him here and now and he never gets to use those vigs. Vigging non-scum targets is not in his best interests - as he himself said, he's vulnerable to night actions and scum are the ones with the most lethal of those.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostTogg, on 17 April 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

What the fuck!!! We can't lynch you and we can't night kill you?!!! How the fuck did town ever have a chance in this game?


Shiiiit ... are you kidding?

I even got the Immunity Idol on Survivor Night.



Sure. Rub it in.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostRyadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

Another possible option. Tulas vigs the targets I set out in a previous post (fifth one still to be decided upon), and then we lynch Fener, or we lynch him here and now and he never gets to use those vigs. Vigging non-scum targets is not in his best interests - as he himself said, he's vulnerable to night actions and scum are the ones with the most lethal of those.



Tulas hasn't exactly confirmed or denied that he even has the vigs. Tia had already used them before he was night killed so hopefully Tulas didn't get them in the first place. ANd if Tulas is to believed all we will hit is the lynchproof today anyway so if he did get the vigs there is nothing to stop him from using them tomorrow.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

View PostRyadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

Another possible option. Tulas vigs the targets I set out in a previous post (fifth one still to be decided upon), and then we lynch Fener, or we lynch him here and now and he never gets to use those vigs. Vigging non-scum targets is not in his best interests - as he himself said, he's vulnerable to night actions and scum are the ones with the most lethal of those.



Tulas hasn't exactly confirmed or denied that he even has the vigs. Tia had already used them before he was night killed so hopefully Tulas didn't get them in the first place. ANd if Tulas is to believed all we will hit is the lynchproof today anyway so if he did get the vigs there is nothing to stop him from using them tomorrow.




If he has lynchproofs then why is he so concerned about us not lynching him today? I suppose you could argue he thinks his critical townie support is about to crumble.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Tia had already used them before he was night killed



When?

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 17 April 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Tia had already used them before he was night killed



When?




You should know - you were one of the ones he killed :)

#4298 User is offline   Korabas 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:46 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 17 April 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Tia had already used them before he was night killed



When?



Back on Day 12 when we had all those day deaths.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

BALLS!!!!!

Wish we could get more participation from most of the rest of the deadbeats still alive. We may never get a lynch or consenus at this point. Hell I would even like some input from the Tyrant at this point.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

View PostKorabas, on 17 April 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

BALLS!!!!!

Wish we could get more participation from most of the rest of the deadbeats still alive. We may never get a lynch or consenus at this point. Hell I would even like some input from the Tyrant at this point.




What do you think about the guarding idea? Do you think it's possible?

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