[Tulas Shorn]

Korabas, on 17 April 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

Korabas, on 17 April 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Has anyone tried to night kill Tulas Shorn in a while? Fener? Have you ever taken a shot at him?

So are you confirming the part of my reveal that you are the former Pran Chole? I't be nice if you could confirm so as people read the thread they know I am not full of shit.

EDIT: It would also confirm that Kesso is in fact scum.

Yes I'm Pran Chole. I thought that was obvious to everyone. How do you know that Kesso is scum? Someone mentioned a while back when I pegged him as a scum because of his CF that the An Aperture Science High Energy Pellet Launcher was a town role not a scum role. I haven't looked up the role description so I may have been mislead. Or are you pegging him as scum because of your information about the scum town, independent info you have?

Because of scum/town info I have off thread. 6 people entered the thread on day 11:

Anthras, Apral Forge, Galain, Kaschan, Kesso, Nimander.

I know Nimander is survivor
We know Anthras was trake
I know Apral is town (was Denul and for other reasons)
I know galain was (sorrit/okaros and town cause of the turing CF)
We know Kaschan was inno and was either pellet launcher or a RI from the disco game. RI seems like more of a town role to me.

That leaves 1 scum un accounted for. Has to be Kesso, unless you thin RI Discoer was scum in which case Ryadd is scumm and Kesso is inno... but I REALLY don't think thats the case.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Calm your palpitating heart, Korabas, it's unseemly.


Most of what Tulas has divulged is in fact not new information, at least if you have been following the game. The only bit that might be new is unverifiable - namely, the number of scum remaining at a constant when it should have decreased last night. We only have Tulas' word on that.

Which is why I'm asking Nimander to tell us which faction he joined on the Survivor night. Right now, Tulas is saying that Korbas/Kessobahn was/is scum. Korbas had an RI role, so it can only be true if he was recruited. We know that one was on the Eriksonian team, and the other on the Goodkinder team, but we don't know which was which. If Nimander says he was on the Eriksonian team, then all well and good, Tulas' numbers match up. If Nimander says he was on the Goodkinder team, then they do not, and we have to doubt everything else Tulas says also.


Further, I believe we have more options than Tulas is laying out for us. That is not to say that Tulas' is not the best in any case, but let's not act in haste quite yet.

[Kessobahn]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

Korabas, on 17 April 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Has anyone tried to night kill Tulas Shorn in a while? Fener? Have you ever taken a shot at him?

So are you confirming the part of my reveal that you are the former Pran Chole? I't be nice if you could confirm so as people read the thread they know I am not full of shit.

EDIT: It would also confirm that Kesso is in fact scum.

Do go on...

[Ryadd Eleis]

Tulas, who did you kill last night?

[Tulas Shorn]

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Calm your palpitating heart, Korabas, it's unseemly.


Most of what Tulas has divulged is in fact not new information, at least if you have been following the game. The only bit that might be new is unverifiable - namely, the number of scum remaining at a constant when it should have decreased last night. We only have Tulas' word on that.

Which is why I'm asking Nimander to tell us which faction he joined on the Survivor night. Right now, Tulas is saying that Korbas/Kessobahn was/is scum. Korbas had an RI role, so it can only be true if he was recruited. We know that one was on the Eriksonian team, and the other on the Goodkinder team, but we don't know which was which. If Nimander says he was on the Eriksonian team, then all well and good, Tulas' numbers match up. If Nimander says he was on the Goodkinder team, then they do not, and we have to doubt everything else Tulas says also.


Further, I believe we have more options than Tulas is laying out for us. That is not to say that Tulas' is not the best in any case, but let's not act in haste quite yet.

Wait... Pellet launcher is an RI Role? Or was that you?

[Tulas Shorn]

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Tulas, who did you kill last night?

Tiamatha. The instant nights combined with the stupid sacrosanct make pre-picking a target difficult. I only get one provisional, and have to have it in before lynch.

So, I had to have a provisional in before the weekend break ended and had to assume that togg would not be sacrosanct. My provisional was to Kill Bendhal and if he was dead Tiamatha. We ended up lynching Bendal, so the kill went to Tiam. My kill hadn't gone through both nights prior, so I didn't think it mattered one way or another.

EDIT: Changed "back" to "make" and add "not"

This post has been edited by Tulas Shorn: 17 April 2013 - 04:53 PM

[Ryadd Eleis]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Calm your palpitating heart, Korabas, it's unseemly.


Most of what Tulas has divulged is in fact not new information, at least if you have been following the game. The only bit that might be new is unverifiable - namely, the number of scum remaining at a constant when it should have decreased last night. We only have Tulas' word on that.

Which is why I'm asking Nimander to tell us which faction he joined on the Survivor night. Right now, Tulas is saying that Korbas/Kessobahn was/is scum. Korbas had an RI role, so it can only be true if he was recruited. We know that one was on the Eriksonian team, and the other on the Goodkinder team, but we don't know which was which. If Nimander says he was on the Eriksonian team, then all well and good, Tulas' numbers match up. If Nimander says he was on the Goodkinder team, then they do not, and we have to doubt everything else Tulas says also.


Further, I believe we have more options than Tulas is laying out for us. That is not to say that Tulas' is not the best in any case, but let's not act in haste quite yet.

Wait... Pellet launcher is an RI Role? Or was that you?

Pellet Launcher was an RI role in the original game, yes.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Tulas, who did you kill last night?

Tiamatha. The instant nights combined with the stupid sacrosanct make pre-picking a target difficult. I only get one provisional, and have to have it in before lynch.

So, I had to have a provisional in before the weekend break ended and had to assume that togg would be sacrosanct. My provisional was to Kill Bendhal and if he was dead Tiamatha. We ended up lynching Bendal, so the kill went to Tiam. My kill hadn't gone through both nights prior, so I didn't think it mattered one way or another.

EDIT: Changed "back" to "make"

So presumably you now have vigs? Or not?

[Korabas]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Tulas, who did you kill last night?

Tiamatha. The instant nights combined with the stupid sacrosanct make pre-picking a target difficult. I only get one provisional, and have to have it in before lynch.

So, I had to have a provisional in before the weekend break ended and had to assume that togg would not be sacrosanct. My provisional was to Kill Bendhal and if he was dead Tiamatha. We ended up lynching Bendal, so the kill went to Tiam. My kill hadn't gone through both nights prior, so I didn't think it mattered one way or another.

EDIT: Changed "back" to "make" and add "not"

Who did you target the two nights that they didn't go through?

[Ryadd Eleis]

Tulas is saying that there are 4 Meyerns and 3 Goodkinders. For that to be true, more than one recruitment has to have taken place. Here's why.

Meyerns: Fener; Togg; Ghennan; and whichever of Sheltatha and Venesara is Trake.

Goodkinders: Venesara OR Sheltatha; Kessobahn if Tulas is believed; and....who? And if that's the case, then when was that other recruitment?


Currently, the numbers don't quite match up. Or have I missed something?

[Tulas Shorn]

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Calm your palpitating heart, Korabas, it's unseemly.


Most of what Tulas has divulged is in fact not new information, at least if you have been following the game. The only bit that might be new is unverifiable - namely, the number of scum remaining at a constant when it should have decreased last night. We only have Tulas' word on that.

Which is why I'm asking Nimander to tell us which faction he joined on the Survivor night. Right now, Tulas is saying that Korbas/Kessobahn was/is scum. Korbas had an RI role, so it can only be true if he was recruited. We know that one was on the Eriksonian team, and the other on the Goodkinder team, but we don't know which was which. If Nimander says he was on the Eriksonian team, then all well and good, Tulas' numbers match up. If Nimander says he was on the Goodkinder team, then they do not, and we have to doubt everything else Tulas says also.


Further, I believe we have more options than Tulas is laying out for us. That is not to say that Tulas' is not the best in any case, but let's not act in haste quite yet.

Wait... Pellet launcher is an RI Role? Or was that you?

Pellet Launcher was an RI role in the original game, yes.

If thats the case then Korbas and Karosis were both RI. Meaning it's possible Kesso isn't scum. He would need to be replaced with someone in the town list.

Do we know that Turing CF's are town? Who else CF'd as turing?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 13. 18 hours and 52 minutes remaining.

16 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Dejim Nebrahl, Fener, Galain, Ghennan, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korvalain, Nimander Golit, Okral Lom, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Sheltatha Lore, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Venesara

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Nimander Golit (Dejim Nebrahl)
3 votes Tulas Shorn (Fener, Togg, Galain)

[Sheltatha Lore]

Sheltatha Lore, on 17 April 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Galain, on 17 April 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

Vote Tulas Shorn.

Again. and I'm not changing my vote this time. We have to at least kill his first alt.

I agree

Vote Tulas Shorn

Vote Tulas Shorn

[Tulas Shorn]

Korabas, on 17 April 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Tulas, who did you kill last night?

Tiamatha. The instant nights combined with the stupid sacrosanct make pre-picking a target difficult. I only get one provisional, and have to have it in before lynch.

So, I had to have a provisional in before the weekend break ended and had to assume that togg would not be sacrosanct. My provisional was to Kill Bendhal and if he was dead Tiamatha. We ended up lynching Bendal, so the kill went to Tiam. My kill hadn't gone through both nights prior, so I didn't think it mattered one way or another.

EDIT: Changed "back" to "make" and add "not"

Who did you target the two nights that they didn't go through?

Night 12 I targeted Togg Didn't go through
Night 11 I targeted Omtose but he was day killed. My back-up kill was Amp. Didn't go through. (He was day killed the next day so I am assuming I took away a BP he had).

EDIT: Added the parentheses statement.

This post has been edited by Tulas Shorn: 17 April 2013 - 05:20 PM

[Tulas Shorn]

I really wish Galain wasn't on my Train. He was Sorrit,(Segulah 1st) and Okaros (Turing). Does that make him scum? Who was the other Turing CF... i'll see if I can find it.

[Tulas Shorn]

Path-Shaper, on 09 April 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Okaros is dead. He was town and Alan Turing.

Yeah, he CF'd as town. So Galain is town (as long as he isn't last nights recruit.)

[Tulas Shorn]

So we know Serc CF'd Town and is okral
We know Kaschan CF'd town and is presumably Ryadd
I know that Denul was Town and is Aprahl.


I suppose we don't know that Pran Chole was town but if I did my math on day 9 right, he should be town based on deduction.

We know Barghast was town and is presumably Korv.

We don't know if King Duosi was town or scum, he was town in the Meng Hoa Game. He is now Dejim.


So I suppose it's conceivable that Kesso is town and Dejim or Korabas are the scum. But if I had to bet, I'd say Kesso was the scum.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

So we know Serc CF'd Town and is okral
We know Kaschan CF'd town and is presumably Ryadd
I know that Denul was Town and is Aprahl.


I suppose we don't know that Pran Chole was town but if I did my math on day 9 right, he should be town based on deduction.

We know Barghast was town and is presumably Korv.

We don't know if King Duosi was town or scum, he was town in the Meng Hoa Game. He is now Dejim.


So I suppose it's conceivable that Kesso is town and Dejim or Korabas are the scum. But if I had to bet, I'd say Kesso was the scum.

Still doesn't add up though. For your numbers to work, you'd need two of those three to be scum.

[Galain]

Remove Vote.

But let me assure you there is no need to be so worried.

[Tulas Shorn]

Ryadd Eleis, on 17 April 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

So we know Serc CF'd Town and is okral
We know Kaschan CF'd town and is presumably Ryadd
I know that Denul was Town and is Aprahl.


I suppose we don't know that Pran Chole was town but if I did my math on day 9 right, he should be town based on deduction.

We know Barghast was town and is presumably Korv.

We don't know if King Duosi was town or scum, he was town in the Meng Hoa Game. He is now Dejim.


So I suppose it's conceivable that Kesso is town and Dejim or Korabas are the scum. But if I had to bet, I'd say Kesso was the scum.

Still doesn't add up though. For your numbers to work, you'd need two of those three to be scum.

Why? Scum are Fener, Togg, Shelly, Venesara, Ghennan *Kesso or one of the other's mentioned above.*, and last night's recruit who I have no clue who it is. That makes 7 which is how many I was told there was.