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MAFIA 100 - The Centennial Game Thread

#3301 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

Looking through the thread, Fener's two shields are within this list of 9 names (these are the people still alive from when Fener first appeared):




Ampelas, Bendal Home, Liosan, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Spite, Tennes, Togg, Tulas Shorn




From this list, if Tulas is the SK we can discount that name. Prazec Goul appears to be a mod patsy designed to screw with us. So that leaves 2 out of 7. We know Togg is scum, and they appeared at the same time as Fener (they have to be the former Meanas I believe). Bendal Home has also given us the names of Ampelas and Omtose as scum, but I don't think we know more than that, do we?


Can anyone add anything to this?



#3302 User is offline   Spite 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

I've been around since the reload.

#3303 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

I've been around since the reload.


Your point being?

#3304 User is offline   Spite 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

I've been around since the reload.


Ah. I misread that.

I have no earthly idea how you all keep track of it.

Notes? Where we're going we don't need notes.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:27 PM

I have zero read on Liosan and Tennes. While that isn't say much this game, it is hard to tell they are even playing.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

Haha Twelve.

#3307 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

I've been around since the reload.


Ah. I misread that.

I have no earthly idea how you all keep track of it.

Notes? Where we're going we don't need notes.




Keeping track is not so bad if you can will yourself through the mega shit tonne of spam. That's the hard part.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:29 PM

We agree on Tennes.

I don't have a lot of playing time and the massive output seems to happen while I'm not around. No excuses, here though.

#3309 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:29 PM

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

I have zero read on Liosan and Tennes. While that isn't say much this game, it is hard to tell they are even playing.




I think Liosan could very well be scum, but that's just a hunch based on their posting. No read on Tennes (I also forgot they were playing, they seemed to pop up again suddenly today).

#3310 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:39 PM

Vote Togg




Out of Togg, Ampelas, and Omtose, I favour Togg and Omtose as the two shields, simply because they've been keeping their head down more (not very scientific, I know). But I'm also inclined to believe that only one of those three is a shield, and the last one is elsewhere.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:15 AM

Whoops, I'm dead.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:17 AM

Dead

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#3313 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:45 AM

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 09 April 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

I have zero read on Liosan and Tennes. While that isn't say much this game, it is hard to tell they are even playing.




I think Liosan could very well be scum, but that's just a hunch based on their posting. No read on Tennes (I also forgot they were playing, they seemed to pop up again suddenly today).


Really? A hunch? Le sigh.
And yeah, today was a clusterfuck.. I have been low-posting because shit got real this past week or two, and I wasn't expecting it. :p

I think it's more important to go after known scum, but if anyone wants to finger me (hehe) feel free to do a find on TS to see if I'm lying about that. Then you can come back to me. Anyways, for now, votes on Togg and/or Omtose look more viable~

vote Togg

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostKorabas, on 09 April 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

I just noticed something folks. The first time we saw the announcement of Sacrosanct was after Liosan mentioned that Tulas Shorn is Sylar.

View PostLiosan, on 05 April 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Um. Well. I just googled "Sylar" and saw that he is a serial killer on the show Heroes. Disclaimer: I have not watched the show Heroes, and I have not played a Mafia game involving the role of "Sylar." I searched him on the thread and only found the one game where there were a bunch of different types of Sylar's? And a post mentioning that being Sylar was on par with being like.. pretty powerful... and not in such a good towny way? I honestly do not know if being Sylar means anything, I only know what I saw on the Heroes wiki, and I saw the words "serial killer."

So I'm probably painting a huge target on my back, and I would love to continue trying to find scum, but I'm equally concerned about the SK, and I guess I'm ignorant enough to be posting this (and I see people dying during both day AND night and/or repeatedly getting silenced, so I'd rather not have that happen before divulging the one thing I do know), but Tulas Shorn is Sylar.

Oh, and hello TS.

OTHERWISE, I still stick by thinking Fener does have shields, I suspect Amp/Togg/someone else may be them, especially with Amp's idea that ~Fener-doesn't-have-any-shields~

Anyways. I must go to bed now. :\



View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

The Northern Desert is Sacrosanct


Now with Tulas Shorn getting more looks directed towards him and a few votes built up on him we see it Sacrosanct again.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 April 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

It is day 11. 32 hours and 45 minutes remaining.

20 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anthras, Aparal Forge, Barghast, Bendal Home, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korabas, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Okral Lom, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Spite, Tennes, Togg, Tulas Shorn

11 votes to lynch. 10 to go to night.

3 Votes for Tulas Shorn (Galain, Fener, Omtose)
1 Vote for Togg (Barghast)


Player not voted: Everyone who hasn't voted.


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View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 April 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

The Northern Desert is Sacrosanct



Since this was from a ToD game and it took a boat load of worship to Sacrosanct a tile me thinks that Tulas Shorn isn't Sylar but in fact someone from the ToD world. Also with all the silences being passed around I would have to say he is probably the Dreadfather.

Since Sacrosanct prevents someone from being lynched I don't think we should continue trying to lynch Tulas unless people want to waste a lynch and have more townies die at night. I'm leaning towards finishing off Togg or trying to lynch Ampelas lynched to test the he is a shield of the tyrant theory.


What about the possibility of Togg being the Dreadfather instead? I realize that first post you quoted is much more about TS, but just a possibility. In addition - there were already 3 votes on TS in that second quote, whereas it looks liks PS posted the 'sacrosanct' stuff after the first vote on Togg.


Edit: replaced "being it" with "being the Dreadfather"

This post has been edited by Liosan: 10 April 2013 - 02:54 AM


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:00 AM

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:


Out of Togg, Ampelas, and Omtose, I favour Togg and Omtose as the two shields, simply because they've been keeping their head down more (not very scientific, I know). But I'm also inclined to believe that only one of those three is a shield, and the last one is elsewhere.




Sums it up nicely. Togg was mentioned with Trake earlier in the game, both suspect shields. In either case, Togg is a good choice for today's lynch, as he is almost certainly scum.

vote Togg

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:05 AM

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

I agree. Look who is on Tulas' train - Fener, Togg, Omtose. All scum or probable scum. They want that train to work so badly, because it means they live another day, AND they don't have to 'waste' kills on the SK.

I say, if scum want to get rid of the SK so badly, they can go ahead and NK him.

We should lynch one of Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.



The SK is the one role that by definition has kill actions on every alt and I haven't seen a single CF that would lead me to believe he's not on his first alt.
And Kaschan wants everyone to ignore him?

Interesting point of view.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:13 AM

It is day 11. 24 hours and 45 minutes remaining.

20 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anthras, Aparal Forge, Barghast, Bendal Home, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korabas, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Okral Lom, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Spite, Tennes, Togg, Tulas Shorn

11 votes to lynch. 10 to go to night.

4 Votes for Tulas Shorn (Galain, Fener, Omtose, Togg)
4 Vote for Togg (Barghast, Kaschan, Liosan, Kessobahn)
1 vote Ampelas (Gamelon)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:21 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 10 April 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

I agree. Look who is on Tulas' train - Fener, Togg, Omtose. All scum or probable scum. They want that train to work so badly, because it means they live another day, AND they don't have to 'waste' kills on the SK.

I say, if scum want to get rid of the SK so badly, they can go ahead and NK him.

We should lynch one of Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.



The SK is the one role that by definition has kill actions on every alt and I haven't seen a single CF that would lead me to believe he's not on his first alt.
And Kaschan wants everyone to ignore him?

Interesting point of view.


Why is this interesting? What do you actually think of Kaschan decidedly focusing on scum rather than TS? You sound like you suspect TS may be the SK, but if that's the case, then what are you implying with Kaschan? "Interesting point of view" makes me think you've decided Kaschan is the SK or somehow scummy for NOT wanting to focus on TS being SK... so I'm a bit confused.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:26 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 10 April 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

I agree. Look who is on Tulas' train - Fener, Togg, Omtose. All scum or probable scum. They want that train to work so badly, because it means they live another day, AND they don't have to 'waste' kills on the SK.

I say, if scum want to get rid of the SK so badly, they can go ahead and NK him.

We should lynch one of Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.



The SK is the one role that by definition has kill actions on every alt and I haven't seen a single CF that would lead me to believe he's not on his first alt.
And Kaschan wants everyone to ignore him?

Interesting point of view.



I did a quick look back to check something:

View PostKaschan, on 09 April 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

So we know that Ano was the Meyern who died, and Demelain the Essel who died.

Meaning Korbas was either an Eriksonian or a Goodkinder.


There is only one good reason I can think of for you not caring about the SK in general and specifically not wanting to kill TS for being the SK. Because you know he's not.

If Korbas was goodkinder scum, then maybe he would know whether TS was a team mate?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:36 AM

View PostLiosan, on 10 April 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

Why is this interesting? What do you actually think of Kaschan decidedly focusing on scum rather than TS? You sound like you suspect TS may be the SK, but if that's the case, then what are you implying with Kaschan? "Interesting point of view" makes me think you've decided Kaschan is the SK or somehow scummy for NOT wanting to focus on TS being SK... so I'm a bit confused.


The best I can tell the SK is on his first alt, so Kaschan couldn't possibly be the SK
I however do find the "town shouldn't worry about the SK" just a bit flippant and rather strange.

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