[Liosan]

Ampelas, on 10 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 10 April 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

Why is this interesting? What do you actually think of Kaschan decidedly focusing on scum rather than TS? You sound like you suspect TS may be the SK, but if that's the case, then what are you implying with Kaschan? "Interesting point of view" makes me think you've decided Kaschan is the SK or somehow scummy for NOT wanting to focus on TS being SK... so I'm a bit confused.

The best I can tell the SK is on his first alt, so Kaschan couldn't possibly be the SK
I however do find the "town shouldn't worry about the SK" just a bit flippant and rather strange.

Ah I see. Well, I didn't really perceive that post as flippant/strange because, at least for me, I'm just not as sure that TS is the SK, and yes, whoever is SK is a threat to everyone.. but SK also takes out scum. I think before I felt like SK might have been a priority, but now I'm sort of split 50/50 between who to go after more. Additionally, we have a better idea of who really seems to be scum (versus our knowledge on the SK).


Ok, I'm brain dead. Hope the above made sense. Good night.

[Anthras]

Interesting.

While I understand the rationale behind focussing on the known scum, I think it's a bit short sighted to ignore him completely. It's going to take more than one lynch to remove him from the game, so it might be worth looking into him sooner rather than later. He is as likely to be killing off townies as scum at the moment.

[Anthras]

Also, Okaros sort-of revealed with his post about TS being the SK, so it might also be worth testing to see if his information is good.

[Togg]

Anthras, on 10 April 2013 - 04:14 AM, said:

Also, Okaros sort-of revealed with his post about TS being the SK, so it might also be worth testing to see if his information is good.

That would make too much sense.

[Anthras]

Togg, on 10 April 2013 - 04:17 AM, said:

Anthras, on 10 April 2013 - 04:14 AM, said:

Also, Okaros sort-of revealed with his post about TS being the SK, so it might also be worth testing to see if his information is good.

That would make too much sense.

Except that I also just remembered Okaros is dead, so that is not so helpful...

[Barghast]

Kill Togg. He really, really, really needs to die today.

Let scum use a NK on Tulas. That's one less NK they can use on town.

BAM, both are dead.


The alternative?

Lynch Tulas, whom we're not sure of. Risk another alt swap. Lose info on known scum. Plus, scum aren't going to be as motivated to kill another scum, which leaves Togg alive, and them free to keep using NKs on town.


No. There isn't even a debate about who to choose between Tulas and Togg, if you're town.

[Togg]

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

No. There isn't even a debate about who to choose between Tulas and Togg, if you're town.

You're kind of overlooking the fact that the individual towns are likely outnumbered at this point. And maybe even the combined towns.

[Tulas Shorn]

Checking again. Seeing that I am supposedly outed again. I am standing by what I said before. I am NOT copping to the SK role though. Not sure how to dispute that. If you think I am the SK, thats fine, I will be working with town. If you think I am town, then great. I am. Regardless, look at my history. I am clearly not the old Desra. I have been in on every lynch of scum, and will continue to do so. I'm not going anywhere and if we run out of known scum to lynch, I know I'll be the first person everyone looks at. Look at my Train though... All scum. Look at who is vouching for me. Barghast, a very probably town. Even the person that outed me won't state that I am the SK because he doesn't know. It's all a guess. The only person to actually call me SK is dead twice, and I didn't kill him. I say we go after known scum (self serving, I know). If scum think I am the SK, they will take me out. They need the SK dead and probably have the firepower to do it. Otherwise, we have 3 known scum on thread and 2 shields remaining. That's where I think we should go.

vote Togg

[Tulas Shorn]

Togg, on 10 April 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

No. There isn't even a debate about who to choose between Tulas and Togg, if you're town.

You're kind of overlooking the fact that the individual towns are likely outnumbered at this point. And maybe even the combined towns.

And you know this how? I call bullshit.

Also, you are saying, that if town IS outnumbered, that they should take out the SK, rather than the team that outnumbers them? That makes sense how?

[Bendal Home]

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

[Togg]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 April 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

Togg, on 10 April 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

No. There isn't even a debate about who to choose between Tulas and Togg, if you're town.

You're kind of overlooking the fact that the individual towns are likely outnumbered at this point. And maybe even the combined towns.

And you know this how? I call bullshit.

I'm just guessing. I really haven't kept track.

Quote

Also, you are saying, that if town IS outnumbered, that they should take out the SK, rather than the team that outnumbers them? That makes sense how?

No, I'm saying there are a lot of people who shouldn't have any incentive to go along with anything you want. Really, we should be coordinating to get you lynched.

[Togg]

In any event, I'm satisfied to vote for the possible SK.

I have no idea why anyone wouldn't want to.

[Bendal Home]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 April 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

Checking again. Seeing that I am supposedly outed again. I am standing by what I said before. I am NOT copping to the SK role though. Not sure how to dispute that. If you think I am the SK, thats fine, I will be working with town. If you think I am town, then great. I am. Regardless, look at my history. I am clearly not the old Desra. I have been in on every lynch of scum, and will continue to do so. I'm not going anywhere and if we run out of known scum to lynch, I know I'll be the first person everyone looks at. Look at my Train though... All scum. Look at who is vouching for me. Barghast, a very probably town. Even the person that outed me won't state that I am the SK because he doesn't know. It's all a guess. The only person to actually call me SK is dead twice, and I didn't kill him. I say we go after known scum (self serving, I know). If scum think I am the SK, they will take me out. They need the SK dead and probably have the firepower to do it. Otherwise, we have 3 known scum on thread and 2 shields remaining. That's where I think we should go.

vote Togg

The problem is that none of the known scum can be Feners Shields.

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

If Togg was recruited town, then he we recruited in the first few nights. He's also one of the only scum we have uncovered without someone giving them up, and one of the earliest.

Why don't you scum just NK Tulas tonight if you think he's the SK.

[Bendal Home]

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

If Togg was recruited town, then he we recruited in the first few nights. He's also one of the only scum we have uncovered without someone giving them up, and one of the earliest.

Why don't you scum just NK Tulas tonight if you think he's the SK.

And again, this same retarded 'I'm going to claim anyone who doesn't agree with me as scum'. Because that helps anything at all. I'm still curious why you are defend Tulas so hard while not disputing the fact that he is SK.

[Anthras]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 April 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

Checking again. Seeing that I am supposedly outed again. I am standing by what I said before. I am NOT copping to the SK role though. Not sure how to dispute that. If you think I am the SK, thats fine, I will be working with town. If you think I am town, then great. I am. Regardless, look at my history. I am clearly not the old Desra. I have been in on every lynch of scum, and will continue to do so. I'm not going anywhere and if we run out of known scum to lynch, I know I'll be the first person everyone looks at. Look at my Train though... All scum. Look at who is vouching for me. Barghast, a very probably town. Even the person that outed me won't state that I am the SK because he doesn't know. It's all a guess. The only person to actually call me SK is dead twice, and I didn't kill him. I say we go after known scum (self serving, I know). If scum think I am the SK, they will take me out. They need the SK dead and probably have the firepower to do it. Otherwise, we have 3 known scum on thread and 2 shields remaining. That's where I think we should go.

vote Togg

Except that we only have your word that you didn't kill him. Kinda convenient that he's dead, no?

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

If Togg was recruited town, then he we recruited in the first few nights. He's also one of the only scum we have uncovered without someone giving them up, and one of the earliest.

Why don't you scum just NK Tulas tonight if you think he's the SK.

And again, this same retarded 'I'm going to claim anyone who doesn't agree with me as scum'. Because that helps anything at all. I'm still curious why you are defend Tulas so hard while not disputing the fact that he is SK.

I'm not necessarily calling anyone particular scum. I'm just wondering why they can't use one of their NKs on Tulas instead? Plus, I don't know if Tulas is the SK. I do know Togg is scum, though, and his last alt. After Togg, my old list of Ano, Togg. Alkend, Lock, Korlat, Driss, etc, all the known scum, will be complete.

Togg needs to die or I'll feel like you guys tried way to hard to avoid lynching him. Especially when scum can just NK Tulas tonight if they want to.

After that, someone else can make cases for a while.

[Anthras]

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

Why do you think Togg is a recruit?

[Tulas Shorn]

Anthras, on 10 April 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 10 April 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

Checking again. Seeing that I am supposedly outed again. I am standing by what I said before. I am NOT copping to the SK role though. Not sure how to dispute that. If you think I am the SK, thats fine, I will be working with town. If you think I am town, then great. I am. Regardless, look at my history. I am clearly not the old Desra. I have been in on every lynch of scum, and will continue to do so. I'm not going anywhere and if we run out of known scum to lynch, I know I'll be the first person everyone looks at. Look at my Train though... All scum. Look at who is vouching for me. Barghast, a very probably town. Even the person that outed me won't state that I am the SK because he doesn't know. It's all a guess. The only person to actually call me SK is dead twice, and I didn't kill him. I say we go after known scum (self serving, I know). If scum think I am the SK, they will take me out. They need the SK dead and probably have the firepower to do it. Otherwise, we have 3 known scum on thread and 2 shields remaining. That's where I think we should go.

vote Togg

Except that we only have your word that you didn't kill him. Kinda convenient that he's dead, no?

BAsed upon when I can get on, and when I post it's not possible that I got in a kill order on okaros after he revealed and before the final survivor vote. I wasn't even near a computer. Someone else killed okaros. Hmmmm wonder why.

[Anthras]

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 April 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Togg is most likely a recruit from town and so has pretty non-killing roles.

The SK is on his first alt. Why do you keep protecting the SK, Barghast? I would also suggest that the original scum have higher powered roles and probably BPs. the SK is honestly more of a danger to town roles/alts than killer ones.

I will vote Tulas, Ampelas, Togg, or Omtose.

I still think Ampelas is a shield and I'm pretty sure Tulas is the SK. I'm absolutely baffled why Barghast is so intent on defending a SK on their first alt?

If Togg was recruited town, then he we recruited in the first few nights. He's also one of the only scum we have uncovered without someone giving them up, and one of the earliest.

Why don't you scum just NK Tulas tonight if you think he's the SK.

And again, this same retarded 'I'm going to claim anyone who doesn't agree with me as scum'. Because that helps anything at all. I'm still curious why you are defend Tulas so hard while not disputing the fact that he is SK.

I'm not necessarily calling anyone particular scum. I'm just wondering why they can't use one of their NKs on Tulas instead? Plus, I don't know if Tulas is the SK. I do know Togg is scum, though, and his last alt. After Togg, my old list of Ano, Togg. Alkend, Lock, Korlat, Driss, etc, all the known scum, will be complete.

Togg needs to die or I'll feel like you guys tried way to hard to avoid lynching him. Especially when scum can just NK Tulas tonight if they want to.

After that, someone else can make cases for a while.

This underlined bit reads as though you are accusing everyone who hasn't voted Togg of being scum.