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Mafia 94.5: Stranded!

#961 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:35 PM

I'M GOING. BACK AFTER A CRY AND CHILL OUT.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

Tatts, you have played like a machine all game, but you're freaking out, calm down


I think it was Bubba as symp trying to stall with his fake reveal
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

Khell, I think you I trust you more right now - do we follow the logic path of Shin?
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:47 PM

View PostHiddenOne, on 11 December 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Khell, I think you I trust you more right now - do we follow the logic path of Shin?



Ugh. Too much pressure. I'm reading through Tattersail's posts now but there are fucking ten pages of them :/

I'm compiling a list of his mentions/views of Blend. I'll do the same for Starling.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:14 PM

Starling should do the same. It makes no sense for me to be scum. HO don;'t let anyone persuade you other than yourself. Go read through. Do mafia.

One of you is scum. Just because i'm not i'm not going to follow blind.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

Khell, my final thought for now is that if Starling is the Killer then scum deserve to win. If HO is the killer then town deserve to lose. If you are the killer then well played again. Bubba's reveal came at the right time.

Why not lynch HO today and see who wins? If he is town then he is bad town, if he is a killer then it is epic we finished the game how you started it. If one of you or Starling is killer then well played team scum.

Lynch me and I will think you stupid. I mean even if you are killer and you lynch me i'll still think you are stupid.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

Fuck off, i'm going for now.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:18 PM

A sample of Tattersail's comments about Blend (not including his case which put together Bubba and me as killers with Blend as symp). I've snipped most of these posts to include only the relevant stuff:

View PostTattersail, on 06 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Blend is a killer!


After Blend came on while we were waiting for lynch resolution.


View PostTattersail, on 07 December 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:


Blend has done a good job of having clean posts and playing a clean town game he has done nothing out of the ordinary. Yesterday I put him in the same boat as GH for giving of town vibes and I placed my trust in him a little. I'm going to have a read up on him today and see if there is anything there to nitpick.

Bubba has not wowed me as I thought he would of. I mean he has said that he hasn't played with a lot of us before so he cannot get a good read. I call bull shit. He should be giving us more than what he has done so far. Shin calls it lazy. I think he could be a killer wanting to stay out of the spotlight. Him and Blend could be a good partnership. Blend making cases, Bubba staying in the background.




View PostTattersail, on 07 December 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:


If we leave Azath then I think Blend or Bubba would be a good place to look for scum.



View PostTattersail, on 09 December 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

Starling I have a problem voting Azath today. I will not tomorrow it depends on who he finds tonight and the outcome.

How dodgy does it look that both Blend and Bubba are voting Azath when multiple people find them at least a little bit scummy.

Fair enough you think I'm scummy and you've.thought that since day one, that's fine. All I can do is make my thoughts known.

I think Blend is a symp or killer and Bubba is symp or killer leaving another symp or killer out there. From your comments above you suggest that you could be a killer but I will go on thinking that it would.be bad etiquette for a killer to play that way, by showing disinterest you get overlooked and that is why HO was frowned upon a few games back.




View PostTattersail, on 10 December 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

I think either me or Shin will get killed tonight if we do not catch the killer.

So worse case scenario is one killer and one symp left.

I'll read through the thread with the new information to hand. Bubba could be a symp following Blend's vote yesterday and pushing the lynch.




All in all a lot of mentions of Blend acting suspicious, usually as a symp, though he sometimes also throws out Blend could be a killer.


Let's take a look at Starling before I get all theoretical and conclusatory.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:10 PM

Starling:

First one is one Tattersail has highlighted already, Blend's suspicion (or is it "suspicion"?) of Starling. I'll get to Tats and Starling's response further on down. In this particular one we see Blend accusing Starling of accusing Tattersail of being a symp in order to hide that Tattersail is actually a killer, and Starling the symp. Yes, it is confusing.

But in essence Blend does to Starling what I accused Gust of doing to Blend (and which Tattersail could also be accused of doing to Blend) - painting them as a symp so that they're lower down the target order, as we're looking for killers.

Starling responds, and explains the vote and suspicion of Tattersail. And then it's all kind of left there.

View PostStarling, on 06 December 2012 - 03:07 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 06 December 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

Alright, upon closer inspection, I can say that I'm a little more suspicious of Starling. Day 1, he didn't really participate much - a post asking Tats why he moved away from supicions of EM, then voting for HO cause he was suspicious of the train redirect. I personally thought the case on HO was crap, yesterday, so I wasn't terribly surprised when the train redirected. Venge was certainly acting a bunch more scummy, even if he did CF as inno.

The thing that bothers me, though, is his behaviour for this day. He basically spent the entire day trying to paint Tats as a symp. He votes Shin, accusing him of having redirected the train, when there was like a triple cross post (which, admittedly, I was a part of) that all moved the train from HO to Venge, and pushing the idea that Tats is Shin's symp. When Shin rebuffs the accusations, he backs off from the Shin attack, but maintains his suspicions of Tats being a symp. I think that Starling is, in fact, the symp, and that he's trying to paint Tats as a symp so that we'll disregard Tats as a possible killer, or that we'll let him slide thinking that he's a symp, so there's no point in voting him off.

I know this jives with my earlier statement about Tats not being dumb enough to kill someone as obviously linked to him as KL was, but, I dunno, Starling's behaviour just rubs me the wrong way. For now, I will

vote Tattersail

As I think he's probably being protected by Starling.

I would still be willing to move my vote to Azath, but I think this is at least as solid a case, so I thought I'd put it out there.


I have a couple of things to say about this.

Tatt's behaviour struck me as much more sympish than that of a killer, I feel he is putting himself out there too much, particularly with the amount he was changing his voting, and the way he switched with only 5 hours to go, from someone who was at L-1 to someone who had only a few votes. I never accused Shin of redirecting the lynch, but I did find it odd that as soon as he came on Tatts changed his vote. My vote for Shin was mostly fishing for a reaction, and as Shin's response made sense I removed my vote. I'll vote for Tatts if necessary, but I think it is a waste.

I'd also like to ask you what you found so absolutey scummy about Venge's play, since the whole case against him was that he was "playing too nice". I think there were a bunch of people playing scummier, in particular Gnaw, that no one has so much as blinked at, so I'm a little confused as to how you came to that conclusion.



Until this. This summary of Blend's play generally devalues it, but doesn't accuse in any real way. The last line is interesting though - would a partner point that out abou their fellow killer?

View PostStarling, on 08 December 2012 - 03:29 AM, said:

Right, caught up and I have lots of notes, so in the interest of continuing the trend I'll put out thoughts for each player.

[snip]

Blend has been connected by GH to Azath and Khell, and by Shin to Tatts. He emphasises how scummy he found Venge; "Venge pulls the scummy shit he did", "Venge was certainly acting a bunch more scummy", although he can only find one quote to back up his claims, and the majority of the lynch was based around Venge playing "too nice". It feels like scum trying to justify his vote. He accuses me of symping Tatts, for my case on him earlier, which would be a seriously stupid move for me, if I was a symp. He spends a lot of time attempting to devalue Tatts' case against him, and trying to direct attention elsewhere.




Here Starling says they are prepared to vote for Tats, Azath, or Blend. One gets the feeling more so Tats and Azath, but still...

View PostStarling, on 08 December 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

So, to conclude:

I feel that Tatts and Azath are connected. Tatts downplaying the possibility that Azath has fake-revealed is most telling to me. Azath's behaviour since the reveal has been entirely too convenient, and I am suspicious that he is still alive.

In addition, I'm getting a scummy feeling from Blend, although I'm not seeing a connection with either Tatts or Azath. I'd be prepared to vote for any one of these three.

And now, I have to get ready for work. Hopefully I'll be able to post from work, depends how busy we are and how much of the thread I can access. Since it's a weekend break now I'm not expecting a lot of participation, but it would be nice to use this time to discuss what we are going to do.



Reaction after Blend's death. Can't say much about the pointing at Bubba, as we all did that really. What is interesting is that Starling here backs off from Tats.

View PostStarling, on 10 December 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

Ugh. OK, as much as it pains me to say it, you were right, Tatts :) All I can say is that it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Also, nice catch, Shin.

So, Bubba, HO, Khell, Shin, myself and Tatts left. I think Shin's vig clears him, and I feel Tatts is somewhat cleared by Azath's CF. Leaving out myself (for obvious reasons) that leaves us with Bubba, HO and Khell. I haven't done a reread, and I won't have time tomorrow (Tuesdays again), but gut feeling is telling me it's Bubba. He was connected to Blend earlier in the game. HO seems to have no connections at all. I'm undecided on Khell.

Also, do you think maybe the pictures are the mods trying to tell us things?

Right, now to bed.



This post is interesting. At first it seems to try and lend credibility to Bubba's reveal, but then goes in the opposite direction and starts questioning - i.e. who were the other finds, why hasn't Bubba mentioned them - rather than pushing to see if Bubba's accusation of Tats is true.

View PostStarling, on 11 December 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

On the one hand, I think it's possible that Bubba kept bringing up the picture as a way of trying to figure out what people thought about it. Several times I've had roles I've had to stop myself talking about them and giving things away. Then again, all of his info, apart from his comment about Tatts, is available to anyone reading the thread.

And am I missing something? If Bubba can do a find every second night, and found Tatts the first night, who did he find last night? And if he could only do a find on the second night, what did the first picture mean?



This is Tattersail commenting on the first post of Starling's I put up, and Starling's response. I have to say I like Starling's response. The thing about not trying the same tactic as their partner as it's stupid is quite convincing (or do I have a too high regard for the intelligence of players here? :) )

View PostStarling, on 11 December 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 11 December 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 06 December 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

Alright, upon closer inspection, I can say that I'm a little more suspicious of Starling. Day 1, he didn't really participate much - a post asking Tats why he moved away from supicions of EM, then voting for HO cause he was suspicious of the train redirect. I personally thought the case on HO was crap, yesterday, so I wasn't terribly surprised when the train redirected. Venge was certainly acting a bunch more scummy, even if he did CF as inno.

The thing that bothers me, though, is his behaviour for this day. He basically spent the entire day trying to paint Tats as a symp. He votes Shin, accusing him of having redirected the train, when there was like a triple cross post (which, admittedly, I was a part of) that all moved the train from HO to Venge, and pushing the idea that Tats is Shin's symp. When Shin rebuffs the accusations, he backs off from the Shin attack, but maintains his suspicions of Tats being a symp. I think that Starling is, in fact, the symp, and that he's trying to paint Tats as a symp so that we'll disregard Tats as a possible killer, or that we'll let him slide thinking that he's a symp, so there's no point in voting him off.

I know this jives with my earlier statement about Tats not being dumb enough to kill someone as obviously linked to him as KL was, but, I dunno, Starling's behaviour just rubs me the wrong way. For now, I will

vote Tattersail

As I think he's probably being protected by Starling.

I would still be willing to move my vote to Azath, but I think this is at least as solid a case, so I thought I'd put it out there.



Okay so I think this case is full of so much shit I can still smell it from here. He is trying to paint Starling as a symp. Of me.

WTF is that about. It gets people thinking Starling is not going to CF as scum. So he is suspicious of Starling yet he votes for me.

Starling did this in a round about way with Shin also.

Smacks off off thread comms this.


This may just be the stupidest thing you've ever said. Why the hell, if we had off thread comms, would we use similar strategies to attack people?

I've always said that there is no point killing off the symp. The symp can lead you to the killers, and the symp can't kill people. The only time killing a symp is worth it is when D-day is approaching and town need to reduce scum's voting bloc.



And now Starling flat out mistrusts Bubba's reveal. An odd strategy if Starling was a killer, because at this moment in time the only two options are Bubba and Tattersail. Why say anything which could potentially change that? It could be trying to convince us to lynch Bubba, but what would Starling care if they were a killer? Lynch Bubba or lynch Tattersail, it matters not. And then how does it look once Bubba turns up inno? "Oh, I guess he may have been telling the truth and I was wrong, whoops. I guess it is Tattersail." For a killer, that just looks plain awkward. For a townie it looks much more reasonable.

View PostStarling, on 11 December 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

On Bubba's reveal: I don't like it. I would like an answer to my question, and I'd like to know why he didn't counter-reveal. If he had found scum, we could have tested his reveal by lynching you, and that would have given us Azath as well. It doesn't make sense not to challenge someone who is basically feeding information to the thread, if you know that that information is false and can prove it.




Both Tattersail and Starling have big pros and big cons for them being town. Starling does tend to pop up for lynches (EM's hammer, spurt of activity at the end of Azath's lynch). There is the interaction with Blend on day 1 which could be distancing.

But then there's the mistrusting of Bubba - far more so than acceptance of what he says. I also thought Starling was responding very reasonably to Tats' accusations.


Tattersail has not played like a killer. At all. But neither has he been correct very often. Venge, me and EM, Blend as a symp, me and Bubba...was he trying to lead us in the wrong direction? Why accuse me so often and yet never vote for me? I really dislike Tats' flood of posts following Bubba's reveal - it just screamed of panic and scrambling around trying to find another target.



I need to think about Bubba's play here. And Azath's. The key is which one of those two was lying.

And, I hate to say this, but it's also time to look at HO.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:15 PM

Or perhaps rather the key is how to interpret Bubba's pictures. Are they truth or lie. Finder or symp ability?

And that's just given me a thought....
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:23 PM

Khell what you have in your favour is Blends Overt symping of you, I made a case about it and could easily swap Blend for Bubba in the case. This work you are doing also smacks of townie trying to figure things out.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

Ok, I thought about trying to judge whether Bubba's been making it up based on time stamps. That is, how long it took the picture to come out after the lynch. Remember that to be a real finder with the picture ability, the lynch has to happen, the mods have to inform Bubba of the result, and then Bubba has to decide what to do. That normally should not be instantaneous.

So here we go:

Lynch 1 - 31 minutes between lynch resolution and night resolution. This is when Bubba would have supposedly found out about Tats. 31 minutes is possible considering what I said above - but is Bubba normally around at that time - I will have to check after I'm done posting this.

Lynch 2 - 8 minutes between lynch resolution and night resolution. That's pretty damn quick. There is a catch here however. Bubba simply posted the same picture slightly altered. It can be argued he was always going to do that if he'd found Tattersail a killer already.

Lynch 3 - 12 minutes between lynch resolution and night resolution. Quick again. But again, there's a catch. The picture is supposedly based on the result of the lynch, rather than the result of a find. So Bubba could have seen Azath's CF, and immediately just said, 'well, fuck.'.


Thoughts? I'm going to check Bubba's posting times.


View PostLizrad, on 04 December 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

After you relialised that something was awry with some of the people you were stranded with you started observing their behaviour very closely. One guy, known for his rants was acting nice. To nice for his own good.


It is Day 1. 3 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, King Lear, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail, Vengeance

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Hiddenone ( Khellendros, Gnaw, Starling )
7 Votes for Vengeance ( Shinrei, Bubba, Gust Hubb, EmperorMagus, Tattersail, Blend, Azathmaster )
1 Vote for EmperorMagus ( Vengeance )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( King Lear )

Players not voted: Hiddenone
Veangeance is lynched. He was Innocent.

It is now night.




View PostLizrad, on 04 December 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Exhausted from your earlier deed of lynching someone nice, you had a night full of nightmares. Some of these nightmares have a face.
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Frequently you awake with screams. One scream from this corner, another scream from that. No one notices that one person isn't awaking from nightmares until the next morning, but by then it is already to late.

King Lear is dead. She was Innocent.



It is Day 2. 36 hours remaining
11 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail



View PostLizrad, on 06 December 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

"Why are you looking at me?"
It came out, barely even a whisper. The man was thin, unnaturally so. And the time spent stranded here on an uncharted island had further emaciated him. In fact, he'd grown so small, that he was the only one of the remaining survivors that could slip into the cracks that split the giant stones that littered the island at regular intervals.

Regular intervals every 500 paces. Yet no one else had bothered to take notice. No other took any interest in the rocks at all. And most of all, none of the other more sane members of the 'tribe,' a name they'd taken to calling themselves, preferred to live inside the dark crevices of weathered rocks.

The other 10 members of the tribe had begun to slowly assemble in a half circle near the main entrance that Twiggy used to slip deep inside, something he did on a regular basis, but this time it was different.

"Either you slither on out of the darkness in which we know you're fond of, or..."

Twiggy's high pitched voice is muffled by the layers of the thick rock, and he squeels an interruption.
"Or you'll what! You'll hang me just like you did poor ol' Skeeter! No! I won't be your sacrifice for the day. I, too, can hear the whispering voices in the night. I feel the chill fall over me as if being draped by a cool sheet. I see the way it poisons you all. Madness. It's madness! You know I had nothing to do with that poor lass's demise. It wasn't me. It wasn't me."

Twiggy's voice falters, and even though it's over 100 degrees tucked tightly in between the comfort of the rock, he feels the chill he'd felt the night the first of them had been killed while they all slept. He squinted, trying to peer out from behind the breaks in the jagged, twisting passage. Only then did it dawn on him. He was going to die. And not a death in the night from the terror he'd begun to fear, but by a band of paranoid men and women who felt their only chance at living themselves, was to hunt down the black and twisted malice of whatever form of Evil that had found them.

It was slowly noticed by each and everyone, some at the same time, others randomly, one after another. No one spoke of it at first. None of them would have known what to say anyway. But it had begun a siege on the small tribe who'd survived the wrath of the heavens, itself. The night the sky had opened up, and sent a brutal flurry of the elements that in the end, had so thoroughly destroyed that mighty ship in which they'd been sailing, that naught but an endless field of broken, wooden splinters was left. Only 13 of an entire crew were left still holding on to their lives, saved by a small life raft.

Twiggy still remembered. He mostly recalled how the sight of so many pieces of shattered wood were covering such a vast area of the endless, black sea, that in the moonlight they looked like stars. Fallen stars. Enough to mimic the silvery light of the real stars above as they dotted a huge section of the sky, being the only thing that could rival the seemingly endless ocean. They sailed away from the surreal scene in stunned silence. They chose the direction of the wind, and road across a sea of stars that floated on a sea of black, and gazed up into another vast sea of stars, hanging there in a sky that was as black as the water below.

Twiggy had begun to cry. He could hear the growing frenzy of the mob, and knew it would continue to work itself into even further excitement. He was trapped, and knew it. The mob that waited knew it. Finally, he slowly slithered back towards the light of the day that shone in and broke into all the different colors of the rainbow.

They could hear his body gliding across the smoothed stone. They all sensed it at the same time. A chance at salvation. A chance to to end this evil that had somehow poisoned one or more of them. A poison that had finally manifested as the murdering of one of the tribe as they slept. It had crossed a threshold in which they could not let it take root. One and all, they knew they had to kill the evil, or they would all die.

Twiggy edged to almost the very end of the exit stone. Something about how he'd stopped the screaming from before, and that he now wore a subdued expression, as if he'd succumbed to his fate. This also seemed to foster a similar effect upon the gathered tribe. Twiggy said nothing, just kept his eyes to the ground, and slowly began to make his way to where grew a copse of trees, with strong limbs that were just the right height.

The tribe followed, falling in behind, forming a single file line. This scene was of such contrast with the anger and fear and hatred that it had driven the mob to delve into the primal side all humans possess. And where the day before, they'd gripped Skeeter in hatred, and were shouting their glee when they finally heard his neck snap. Some of them even remembered how they'd already beaten him to death, and the hanging felt like an afterthought. Maybe it was their realization that they'd failed to correctly identify a killer the day before. Maybe that was why today was such a stark contrast.

The time had come. The collective minds of the tribe really couldn't agree on who would have to be the one to take a swing by the neck, but like always, when time starts to run out, and they all realise they're only growing closer to another night, where they would be huddled and praying that they would wake to see another day, concessions are made. Deals are struck. And when all the bickering began to do nothing to solve the situation, Twiggy was finally agreed to be the next most likely harbinger of a killer's soul.

Yes, he'd fled and hid inside his rocks at first, but in the end, he met his fate with as much dignity as a man who has spent his last days, stranded on an island, never being able to finally make it home, to let his wife and son know that he'd not died in the storm that sank the Fair Maiden. That he'd somehow lived through a storm that ripped giant steel rutters like paper, and how he'd found the face of God, and was humbled by its presense the night they made off on ragged life boats, and sailed between the stars.

Twiggy is lifted up. He is thinking of his wife.
Twiggy is forced to bend his head down. He is thinking of his son.
Twiggy feels the coarce rope settle around his thin neck. He is thinking of the night in the life boats, surrounded by stars.
Everyone looks to his face, somehow unable to stop from following the trail of a single tear as it glides down his hallowed cheek.
Then it is time. All eyes are on Twiggy. As much as they lament his passing, they are more concerned with finding out if they had chosen the right one this time.
A click. The feel of air suddenly rushing up. Time in that last moment seems to hang there in the air. Twiggy finally looks up. He sees the part that is there sadness. He feels a yearning that they had not made another mistake. In everyone's eyes he can see their fear. They were all afraid. Why couldn't they have found the right killer or killers, for no one knew how many. And just before his rope is about to come to it's end, he sees it.
There! In the eyes. They'd been masking it from everyone. But now he knew which one it was. It watched him fall with a delight that scared him more than even the knowing that he would soon be dead.

And then he died.

EM is dead. He was innocent.


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View PostLizrad, on 06 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Exhausted you go to bed. You don't feel to sure about killing EM, now that it is none, but you fall into a deep dreamless sleep anyways. The first thing you notice the next morning is that Gust Hubb is missing. You find his body near the beach. Hanging from a tree on a rope around his neck. Next to him you find a picture in the sand.
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Gust Hubb is dead. He was Innocent.



It is Day 3. 36 hours remaining
9 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail



View PostLizrad, on 10 December 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

He had told them, that he loves to watch them when they sleep, especially the women, but also the men. That had freaked them out.

Azathmaster is dead. He was Innocent.



It is Day 3. The clock has been frozen with 04 Hours and 12 Minutes remaining.
9 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Bubba ( Shinrei, Azathmaster )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Khellendros )
5 Votes for Azathmaster ( Blend, Bubba, Gnaw, Starling, Tattersail )

Players not voted: Hiddenone



View PostLizrad, on 10 December 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

A day or two back, he fashioned a spear and now he lies awake with this spear. Waiting for something to give the murderers among you away. You all hear a terrible scream, and he jumps up, spear in hand and runs towards the sound. He sees movement just bejond the treeline and throws the spear. Another scream. He had hit. To late for the poor kid that was killed, but still . . . he got one. When he examines the body he finds that his spear is gone and that there is a second set of foot steps close by.
The next morning they find another drawing in the sand.
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Gnaw was killed. He was Innocent.
Blend was killed. He was a killer.



It is Day 4. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining
6 Players still alive: Bubba, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Bubba, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:40 PM

Why if I was a killer would I be dead set on protecting Azath? He didn't find scum, it was either him or EM. Why would I draw sides like that?

In my mind you have to convince me Starling us the killer, she has to convince me you are and HO should vote along with me.

Unless we lynch him
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

View PostTattersail, on 11 December 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Why if I was a killer would I be dead set on protecting Azath? He didn't find scum, it was either him or EM. Why would I draw sides like that?

In my mind you have to convince me Starling us the killer, she has to convince me you are and HO should vote along with me.

Unless we lynch him



Distancing - come on Tats, I've personally done that all the time when scum, stayed off lynch trains, argued against lynching an inno...

You just keep quiet while I circle around all this interminably :) You might like this next post of mine.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:01 PM

The times here are in GMT.

Bubba was almost certainly around for Venge's lynch - he posts some 5 minutes before we get the result.

For lynch 2, which was at 4.35pm, there is one post around the same sort of time (04.23pm), although not on the same day. Bubba normally though didn't start posting before 9pm, though there are also a couple of posts between 5 and 6 pm.

For lynch 3...well, I thought I had him. Happened at 10.16am, and his reaction, because of the post and his explanation, HAD to have been at the same time. Now, normally Bubba stops posting around 3 hours before this and doesn't come back until the evening. So it didn't match up. Only then I found two posts, one at 10.45am (day 1), another at 10.47am (day 2).

So he could have been around then. Although he waited until the evening to give his reveal and explanation.


View PostBubba, on 11 December 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 11 December 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

Well this is a little worrisome. If Bubba is a symp then who is the other killer. If Bubba is a killer why this reveal? If we do lynch him and he comes up innocent what then?

Bubba what did your last picture mean then?


I thought for sure Azath was the other killer. I sent it in when I seen him come up inno. I thought I had Fucked up getting Azanth lynched. so a big Face palm.



Edit: Sorry, correction, he waited until the next day.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

Three more things on the agenda:

- Look over Bubba's posts.

- Look over Azath's posts.

- Look over HO's posts.


But right now I have to go do some actual work. And today is my birthday and all :)
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

Happy birthday. Khell as a birthday gift I'll reveal this for you. I am team town.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

Happy Birthday, Khell. :)
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

Happy B-day Khells!!!
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

Happy birthday Khell!
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