[HoosierDaddy]

He had a mechanic netting him 3,000 per phase from theft. I assume he just kept hitting up the same people, over and over again and they didn't care.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 01 December 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Sorry, I've just seen in the Quest Triggers thread that one of the quests was triggered by one player earning more than 35,000 dinari. Despite being painful to me, it's not unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is that it was Spite who did it?!?! Spite, a Guild of Beggars player? How!?



Translation: What the hell was I doing wrong?

I can believe he accumulated that much money. I can't believe he would let that much accumulate without spending it. If I had that much money in a day I'd buy every item, contract and good on the bazaar, or instantly seek to maximize my building slots and equipment or something.

[Khellendros]

HoosierDaddy, on 01 December 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

He had a mechanic netting him 3,000 per phase from theft. I assume he just kept hitting up the same people, over and over again and they didn't care.

Per phase?!

The issue with Tapper's games is that people always try to work out loopholes in their abilities I know I exploited it within the bazaar mechanism in the second game.

[Khellendros]

D, on 01 December 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 December 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Sorry, I've just seen in the Quest Triggers thread that one of the quests was triggered by one player earning more than 35,000 dinari. Despite being painful to me, it's not unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is that it was Spite who did it?!?! Spite, a Guild of Beggars player? How!?



Translation: What the hell was I doing wrong?

I can believe he accumulated that much money. I can't believe he would let that much accumulate without spending it. If I had that much money in a day I'd buy every item, contract and good on the bazaar, or instantly seek to maximize my building slots and equipment or something.

I concur, I spent any money I earned almost as soon as I earned it.

It was fun spamming with you, D'rek

[HoosierDaddy]

D, on 01 December 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 December 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Sorry, I've just seen in the Quest Triggers thread that one of the quests was triggered by one player earning more than 35,000 dinari. Despite being painful to me, it's not unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is that it was Spite who did it?!?! Spite, a Guild of Beggars player? How!?



Translation: What the hell was I doing wrong?

I can believe he accumulated that much money. I can't believe he would let that much accumulate without spending it. If I had that much money in a day I'd buy every item, contract and good on the bazaar, or instantly seek to maximize my building slots and equipment or something.

I was chilling in the south, upgrading all my abilities and building stuff to make myself self-contained. Although having to fucking Sacrosanct all the time sucked.

With that much cash I'd have gone berzerker as well.

[Azathmaster]

Liz makes my list. She raided me two nights in a row, which messed up my gameplan and set it bacj two days. I'd have a retainer building and a spice farm if not for her

[HoosierDaddy]

If I hadn't had been randomly nk'ed night 1 of .33 I'd not have been so desperate to remain alive so early this game (knowing you fucktards randomly lynch whoever the fuck in faction games). I fear my initial sacrosanct set fairly bad precedent.

[D'rek]

Looking back over the bazaar, I conclude that at least three quarters of all worship bought on the bazaar was sold by me

I don't know if that was completely balanced or not, but it wasn't as crazily overpowered as Vengy's. I made 8 Magic per cycle, so with A Place of Worship that could be 12 Magic which could turn into 24 Worship, but I also needed that magic for abilities so there was some weighing of the scales there. Everyone's love for Worship sure helped me offset the Qadi inability to produce money any other way, though!

[Azathmaster]

I was just hanging out in the square of camels, convinced that with 10 CS I was invincible because most people in the last few ToD games had 0-2 CS normally. Looking back, I think I was way too confident. I mean, 40 CS!? That is crazy high. I'm glad I didn't try to assassinate him

[Khellendros]

HoosierDaddy, on 01 December 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

If I hadn't had been randomly nk'ed night 1 of .33 I'd not have been so desperate to remain alive so early this game (knowing you fucktards randomly lynch whoever the fuck in faction games). I fear my initial sacrosanct set fairly bad precedent.

It was the totally the right play at the time though.

[D'rek]

Azathmaster, on 01 December 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I was just hanging out in the square of camels, convinced that with 10 CS I was invincible because most people in the last few ToD games had 0-2 CS normally. Looking back, I think I was way too confident. I mean, 40 CS!? That is crazy high. I'm glad I didn't try to assassinate him

Vengy is an exception, I think. Actually, I'd be very curious as to what people's CS was on the last day to see what the average-ish was.

I was specifically trying to get my CS up and on the last day I had:

11 CS from retainers
8 personal and item combined CS

when I dueled Vengy I had 8 CS, plus 5 CS from my assisting retainer

Anyone beat that or way under?

[Khellendros]

Azathmaster, on 01 December 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I was just hanging out in the square of camels, convinced that with 10 CS I was invincible because most people in the last few ToD games had 0-2 CS normally. Looking back, I think I was way too confident. I mean, 40 CS!? That is crazy high. I'm glad I didn't try to assassinate him

Actually, Venge would still have been vulnerable in battle or assassination, because he has to predict when to upgrade to 40 CS, and he would not have necessarily picked the right battle/night phase.


I had unimpressive CS - about 9 including my retainers. But with my doctor retainers, my ability to instantaneously revive fallen retainers without cost, the fact that I would actually grow stronger in CS with every battle/duel/assassination fought, that I could only lose a maximum of 1 Life Point per any fight, that I could actually wholly offset the loss of Life Points in most circumstances, and, at the very end of it, even having a passive ability which converted even entirely certain death into a loss of 3 Life Points max - I was immortal


Edit: Correction - at the end, I had 8 CS if attacking, but 11 CS if defending.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 01 December 2012 - 03:45 AM

[Azathmaster]

To be specific, my CS was:
2 base
2 from shavings of black marble( +1 for each owned)
1 from weapon (2 in assassination)
2 from training pit
1 ftom praying to dark god(2 in assassination)

So 8 normally, 10 in assassination
I was going to make a 3 sisters retainer building which makes 1st tier little sister: which lowers a targets CS by 2 in my assassinatiom attempts on them with a limit of -6. So I did have some tricks up my sleeve

[Khellendros]

I would assume that most figured out that I (Atrahal) was on the HoA/Nepeth/NA alliance. But I'd be interested to know if anyone picked me for HoA specifically?

[Khellendros]

To go with Azath:

0 base CS (despite being a Warrior/General! )
3 from weapons and armour I made (6 when defending)
5 from retainers


My future CS would have largely come from actually being in fights - two of my items increased my CS by 1 for every fight, no matter the result.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 01 December 2012 - 03:58 AM

[Azathmaster]

My biggest perk was that for each (mysterious ) shaving of black marble I possessed I got +1 CS, so theoretically, I could have a CS of like 20-30, but Id have to spend a lot of time, marble, and magic to do that.
And the shaving of black was an ingredient in a lot of my abilities

[Khellendros]

Azathmaster, on 01 December 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

My biggest perk was that for each (mysterious ) shaving of black marble I possessed I got +1 CS, so theoretically, I could have a CS of like 20-30, but Id have to spend a lot of time, marble, and magic to do that.
And the shaving of black was an ingredient in a lot of my abilities

Were you the dude who stole mine

I actually only bought that in case I was stolen from. All my other items would have revealed me as a HoA member, so I wanted to have a cheap item to disguise that.

[HoosierDaddy]

D, on 01 December 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

Looking back over the bazaar, I conclude that at least three quarters of all worship bought on the bazaar was sold by me

I don't know if that was completely balanced or not, but it wasn't as crazily overpowered as Vengy's. I made 8 Magic per cycle, so with A Place of Worship that could be 12 Magic which could turn into 24 Worship, but I also needed that magic for abilities so there was some weighing of the scales there. Everyone's love for Worship sure helped me offset the Qadi inability to produce money any other way, though!

I had the same math, but I was using transmute WAY too often because at first I couldn't access Bazaar, and then I didn't need to. I was sitting with major goods to sell in the end, and finally ready to broach the bazaar as a seller and not just a buyer.

Btw, I had a set up where each gem = 2 magic through place of worship. At peak, I was producing 16 magic per day.

I don't know how much of my shit went to waste from sheer lack of time to do something with it and raiding/theft.

[HoosierDaddy]

I had 1 CS, was going to be upgraded soonish, and 6 from Djinn Retainers for 7 total.

I originally feared assasination, then the bullshit-lynch parade started.

I maintain that after this day, with comm connections, there would have been deaths because of Venge and me working together to remove heals and BPs + his CS strength.

[Sixty]

If the game lasted past the weekend I would've revealed and outed telas, I think drawing the lines pretty clearly. Then I'd heal myself that night, hope my water didn't get raided, then out every other non alliance member the next day because I'd have finds from them attacking me.