[Olar Ethil]

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 04:45 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

You folks keep bringing up the "he posted right after X happened...he must be (insert bad lynchable offense here)"

After the first incident I think people would be smart enough to cloak their actions. But maybe I am giving people too much credit.

So you are implying that you spend a lot of time lurking while messing with market stuff then come back later to actually post in the thread?

If I was big in the market, I would definitely do that, or post a bunch and do market stuff mid session. All I'm saying is that there are so many variables that to blame a person for something, just because something happened right when they logged in is a poor excuse to base ANYTHING on. (In this case it was market activity).

[Tennes]

Olar Ethil, on 15 November 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 04:45 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

You folks keep bringing up the "he posted right after X happened...he must be (insert bad lynchable offense here)"

After the first incident I think people would be smart enough to cloak their actions. But maybe I am giving people too much credit.

So you are implying that you spend a lot of time lurking while messing with market stuff then come back later to actually post in the thread?

If I was big in the market, I would definitely do that, or post a bunch and do market stuff mid session. All I'm saying is that there are so many variables that to blame a person for something, just because something happened right when they logged in is a poor excuse to base ANYTHING on. (In this case it was market activity).

Meh. I think it is a rather poor argument to claim that 'well he posted today at 8:57pm and these 19 market items showed up at 8:52pm, so clearly it was him. It is poor meta-reasoning used by players just throwing shit around to see what sticks.

[Olar Ethil]

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 15 November 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 04:45 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

You folks keep bringing up the "he posted right after X happened...he must be (insert bad lynchable offense here)"

After the first incident I think people would be smart enough to cloak their actions. But maybe I am giving people too much credit.

So you are implying that you spend a lot of time lurking while messing with market stuff then come back later to actually post in the thread?

If I was big in the market, I would definitely do that, or post a bunch and do market stuff mid session. All I'm saying is that there are so many variables that to blame a person for something, just because something happened right when they logged in is a poor excuse to base ANYTHING on. (In this case it was market activity).

Meh. I think it is a rather poor argument to claim that 'well he posted today at 8:57pm and these 19 market items showed up at 8:52pm, so clearly it was him. It is poor meta-reasoning used by players just throwing shit around to see what sticks.

Yup, thats exactly what I was saying.

[Olar Ethil]

ok, out for the night. Back before timeout.

[Spite]

Ok reading up on the last few pages it seems to be a lot of talk about lynching spammers/ low posters.
I guess atm there isnt really a lot to go on because of the cult mechanics and no nk. Id be willing to vote to get a lynch so that we have some information, but im kind of unsure on the reasoning behind Tennes. If i had to choose right now id probably go for Telann because i think the case on him at least had some merit even if it was thin.

[Tennes]

Spite, on 15 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Ok reading up on the last few pages it seems to be a lot of talk about lynching spammers/ low posters.
I guess atm there isnt really a lot to go on because of the cult mechanics and no nk. Id be willing to vote to get a lynch so that we have some information, but im kind of unsure on the reasoning behind Tennes. If i had to choose right now id probably go for Telann because i think the case on him at least had some merit even if it was thin.

The case on me was because I had the least posts. Also, inb4 I "felt the heat and started posting more, so we should clearly lynch him anyway because he is a power role."

[Spite]

yeah thats kind of what i thought. That seems like a rubbish reason :S

[Ampelas]

How long do we have left?

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

How long do we have left?

About four minutes.

[Ampelas]

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

He had 2 more posts than you. Now only 1.

[Ampelas]

Atrahal, on 14 November 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Hmm, Ruse silenced. Interesting. But not as interesting as this!

Ladies and gents, the spamometer! I've generally tried to be very lenient about what does not constitute spam, even the smallest amount of original somewhat game-related content makes an otherwise spam-filled post not count as spam in this measurement. On the other hand, sole repetition of previous statements, and reponses to spam even if they're serious (like telling people not to spam or to contribute more), themselves count as spam. This is up to post #439. So here we go:

Anomandaris 88% (7/8 posts are spam)
Emurlahn 86% (6/7)
Spite 86% (12/14)
Tennes 83% (5/6)
Telas 79% (15/19)
Silanah 73% (11/15)
Tellan 70% (14/20)
Olar Ethil 67% (8/12)
Ampelas 67% (14/21)
Ruse 56% (56/100)
Tulas Shorn 55% (12/22)
Galain 53%(10/19)
Atrahal 51% (23/45)
Karosis 46% (11/24)
Sorrit 39% (19/36)
Fener 31% (5/16)
Path-Shaper 25% (13/51)


So, as it turns out, low posting does in general correlate to low-content posting Seriously, some of those are shocking.


Edit: changed 'contribute' to 'correlate'.

What constitutes as spam though in what you have said. 6/7 posts for example, if he posted 2 more content filled post his percentage would drop from 86% to 6/9 which would be 66%.

If this was later in the game i'd jump on this willingly but this early into such a complex game i'm not for just jumping on. Incidently my last vote was for someone who hasn't posted in 170 posts plus.

[Ampelas]

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

He had 2 more posts than you. Now only 1.

Yeah understandable but he hasn't been active recently. Who are you looking at lynch wise? Or what is your stance on lynching at the moment?

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

He had 2 more posts than you. Now only 1.

Yeah understandable but he hasn't been active recently. Who are you looking at lynch wise? Or what is your stance on lynching at the moment?

I figure we should lynch to get stuff going. As I posted above, people throwing their votes out all willy-nilly strike me as having a ton more information about their faction than I do. I'm perfectly willing to lynch a low-poster, such as Anomandaris, Spite, Emurlahn, or Fener and will probably put my vote there when I leave for the day unless an actual case pops up.

[Galain]

Anomandaris, on 15 November 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

I'm glad you're contributing on thread and that even though your list is subjective, and a few of my posts I would not completely consider spam, it is better than the silences that have been followed by quick bursts of activity.

Did it strike anyone else as ridiculous thing to say, considering that Anomandaris is a low poster and Atrahal has the second most posts? The whole post is written as if it was the other way around.

vote Anomandaris

[Galain]

Tellan, on 15 November 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

Most of these votes just strike me as people trying to look like they are doing something, when in reality, they aren't. That is much more suspicious to me than my blatant "I don't know who my fucking faction are so I need a decent reason to vote for someone and won't just to look active" stance is. But, I might be biased.

The reason is more along the lines of making something happen, that you can actually work with.

Spite, on 15 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Ok reading up on the last few pages it seems to be a lot of talk about lynching spammers/ low posters.
I guess atm there isnt really a lot to go on because of the cult mechanics and no nk. Id be willing to vote to get a lynch so that we have some information, but im kind of unsure on the reasoning behind Tennes. If i had to choose right now id probably go for Telann because i think the case on him at least had some merit even if it was thin.

How is the reason "I have a bad gut feeling about Tellan", better than "Hey, Tennes has very few post and almost all of them are spam"?

[Ampelas]

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

He had 2 more posts than you. Now only 1.

Yeah understandable but he hasn't been active recently. Who are you looking at lynch wise? Or what is your stance on lynching at the moment?

I figure we should lynch to get stuff going. As I posted above, people throwing their votes out all willy-nilly strike me as having a ton more information about their faction than I do. I'm perfectly willing to lynch a low-poster, such as Anomandaris, Spite, Emurlahn, or Fener and will probably put my vote there when I leave for the day unless an actual case pops up.

I am going with odds at the moment. It'd be hard going to pick a person from your own faction. Your way you have a 1 in 4 chance of picking up someone from your faction, mine is 1 in 16. Although I'm not set on mine at the moment.

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

Tennes, on 15 November 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 45 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Sorrit, Ruse, Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

I think this was last update by PS.

We have quite a lot of time left.

Vote Karosis

I have noticed he has more posts than me but cannot remember too much from today. So this is a prod to get him more active again.

He had 2 more posts than you. Now only 1.

Yeah understandable but he hasn't been active recently. Who are you looking at lynch wise? Or what is your stance on lynching at the moment?

I figure we should lynch to get stuff going. As I posted above, people throwing their votes out all willy-nilly strike me as having a ton more information about their faction than I do. I'm perfectly willing to lynch a low-poster, such as Anomandaris, Spite, Emurlahn, or Fener and will probably put my vote there when I leave for the day unless an actual case pops up.

I am going with odds at the moment. It'd be hard going to pick a person from your own faction. Your way you have a 1 in 4 chance of picking up someone from your faction, mine is 1 in 16. Although I'm not set on mine at the moment.

That isn't how statistics and odds work.

[Ampelas]

Those odds aren't perfect, maybe even wrong. He has picked 4 names out of the 16 playing. I have picked one. That is what I am saying. Say there are 3 people per faction then that is at best 3/16 players that could be in your faction. Or is it 2/15 excluding you? Either way picking 4 low posters as a pool of suspects would have a greater chance of picking up someone in your faction than going with something else.

[Galain]

Ampelas, on 15 November 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Those odds aren't perfect, maybe even wrong. He has picked 4 names out of the 16 playing. I have picked one. That is what I am saying. Say there are 3 people per faction then that is at best 3/16 players that could be in your faction. Or is it 2/15 excluding you? Either way picking 4 low posters as a pool of suspects would have a greater chance of picking up someone in your faction than going with something else.

Not really. The chances of picking someone of your own faction are the same, just the criteria by which you pick is different.