[Emurlahn]

Nice to see you Galain. What is it? 5 or 6 posts in the last 2 hours. What is happening for you to come out of the lurker pool?

[Emurlahn]

The Karosis lynch failed for unknown reasons, but not because of sacro. That's why we looked up the building and the Mahesh Honor Guard.

[Ruse]

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Nice to see you Galain. What is it? 5 or 6 posts in the last 2 hours. What is happening for you to come out of the lurker pool?

Fight! Fight! Fight!

[Atrahal]

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

There is a faction specific retainer called the Mahesh Honor Guard or something like that which is destroyed instead of you when you get lynched and iirc we assumed that Karosis was saved by that retainer.

No. That building was a possibility. The other possibility is that Karosis is Atif

Didn't both come down to the retainer?

No. The building is a faction specific SINGLE use per game.

The retainer can be recruited again the next day.

Um, guys, didn't Karosis say this just before you two started debating:

Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Mahesh Quarter. It's a GoB faction specific building. I thought that had pretty much been figured out.

Which would be why he would buy 6 Worship and Sacrosanct The Miror. Because the building is single use only. Now who put that 6 Worship up for Karosis to buy - Ruuuuuuuuuuse?




Ok, so I'm ready to grudgingly believe that it is Karosis who has sacro'd the Mirror. So I am willing to switch my vote. But to who? If Fener is the Qadi, then lynching him will simply get rid of his lynchproof, so would not be an actual lynch (but nicely in keeping with the rest of the game thus far ).

Spite may be also protected by that Sacro, BUT they may also still be in the Northern Desert. I have no idea where Ruse is, so he may not be protected by anything either. At the moment I'm leaning towards one of these two - unless people would prefer to see what happens with Fener's lynching.

[Ruse]

Seriously don't fight though we don't have the time for it.

With the Hadjs and sacro up north I don't think we can lynch Karo or Fener. Do we want to try and lynch someone else? There is already a vote on Atrahal from Spite (I forget why). I haven't done any lynch pushing on someone in the alliance since like day 2 and according to Atrah I am GoB who are rivals of the NP so I have no problems voting Atrah who I think is NP. Plus fewer assassinations is always good IMO.

remove vote
Vote Atrahal

[Ruse]

Atrahal, on 27 November 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

There is a faction specific retainer called the Mahesh Honor Guard or something like that which is destroyed instead of you when you get lynched and iirc we assumed that Karosis was saved by that retainer.

No. That building was a possibility. The other possibility is that Karosis is Atif

Didn't both come down to the retainer?

No. The building is a faction specific SINGLE use per game.

The retainer can be recruited again the next day.

Um, guys, didn't Karosis say this just before you two started debating:

Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Mahesh Quarter. It's a GoB faction specific building. I thought that had pretty much been figured out.

Which would be why he would buy 6 Worship and Sacrosanct The Miror. Because the building is single use only. Now who put that 6 Worship up for Karosis to buy - Ruuuuuuuuuuse?




Ok, so I'm ready to grudgingly believe that it is Karosis who has sacro'd the Mirror. So I am willing to switch my vote. But to who? If Fener is the Qadi, then lynching him will simply get rid of his lynchproof, so would not be an actual lynch (but nicely in keeping with the rest of the game thus far ).

Spite may be also protected by that Sacro, BUT they may also still be in the Northern Desert. I have no idea where Ruse is, so he may not be protected by anything either. At the moment I'm leaning towards one of these two - unless people would prefer to see what happens with Fener's lynching.

I may like the spunk of Karosis' jib but if I had worship on a day like today when I am in potential danger I would be keeping it for myself not selling it to him!

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Nice to see you Galain. What is it? 5 or 6 posts in the last 2 hours. What is happening for you to come out of the lurker pool?

Shouldn't the question be why I went into the lurker pool after the first week? Oh wait, the first week was where you belonged to the lurker pool.
The answer to that would be a busy RL and frustrating non-lynches taking away my enthusiasm to participate despite that away, btw.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 5 hours and 37 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Fener ( Sorrit, Karosis, Galain )
4 Votes for Karosis ( Atrahal, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Ampelas )
2 Votes for Atrahal ( Spite, Ruse )

Players not voted: Fener, Olar Ethil, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tulas Shorn

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'm just going to straight up admit I don't understand locations and moves at all...

Next ToD game P-S I think moves should happen in-between phases so we don't have to worry about effects and timings of inter-tile things

Perhaps that's an idea - although some players are going to curse you: they have been jumping tiles and collecting benefits from multiple tiles for most of the game so far.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Considering that everyone is at least 4 votes away from a lynch and that we have a tie in votes right now, I'm surprised the Sacrosanct is up so soon.

Could be that whoever put it up wants votes to swing to Karosis.

[Emurlahn]

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ahh and looking at the trading thread someone just put up 6 worship and it got bought which fits how Karo did it earlier I think? Didn't see that before

No. That's how we think Spite did it earlier. Karosis lynch there were no sacros.

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on 27 November 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

So wait if Karo is still on the mirror and sacro'd it does that mean fener is still on the northern desert and vulnerable to a lynch? Or is it like P-S said before and they get the benefits of both tiles so Fener would get the mirror sacro too?

You don't get the benefits of both.
Instead, you target people and are targeted by people as if you were on both tiles (or all tiles travelled to/from) that phase.

Path-Shaper, on 27 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'm just going to straight up admit I don't understand locations and moves at all...

Next ToD game P-S I think moves should happen in-between phases so we don't have to worry about effects and timings of inter-tile things

Perhaps that's an idea - although some players are going to curse you: they have been jumping tiles and collecting benefits from multiple tiles for most of the game so far.

And this is why I don't understand the tiles!!!

[Ruse]

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ahh and looking at the trading thread someone just put up 6 worship and it got bought which fits how Karo did it earlier I think? Didn't see that before

No. That's how we think Spite did it earlier. Karosis lynch there were no sacros.

Actually I was mixing up the Karo and Tellan non-lynches but Spite too!

[Tulas Shorn]

Man. Here and reading up. Hard to find time to do a lot of posting currently.

[Path-Shaper]

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Nice to see you Galain. What is it? 5 or 6 posts in the last 2 hours. What is happening for you to come out of the lurker pool?

Shouldn't the question be why I went into the lurker pool after the first week? Oh wait, the first week was where you belonged to the lurker pool.
The answer to that would be a busy RL and frustrating non-lynches taking away my enthusiasm to participate despite that away, btw.

I'll say that I comment on this in SH and echo the sentiment - had expected to be down 2-4 more players at this point, and will take the blame for it.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on 27 November 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Nice to see you Galain. What is it? 5 or 6 posts in the last 2 hours. What is happening for you to come out of the lurker pool?

Shouldn't the question be why I went into the lurker pool after the first week? Oh wait, the first week was where you belonged to the lurker pool.
The answer to that would be a busy RL and frustrating non-lynches taking away my enthusiasm to participate despite that away, btw.

Yeah, I was a no poster the first week. That's why I haven't pushed any low poster lynches. I wasn't actually asking/commenting about the number of your posts. I was pointing out that you have posted 6 times in 2 hours. Therefore something on thread has your attention. That is worth noting.

[Tulas Shorn]

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Somebody said they had the Day 1 transactions copied? I'd really like to see them posted. There might be a clue to a character's identity in there. Which could also be the reason they got "accidentally deleted". Something along the lines of the Day 5 "G48T - 1 of Tepan's Charm for the price of 3000 dinari wholesale" clue that Tepan might be in the game.

That was me. See, I wasn't just being a hero. Fools. I'll post it here but only with P-S's permission. Or he can post it here. Whichever.

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 November 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

So wait if Karo is still on the mirror and sacro'd it does that mean fener is still on the northern desert and vulnerable to a lynch? Or is it like P-S said before and they get the benefits of both tiles so Fener would get the mirror sacro too?

You don't get the benefits of both.
Instead, you target people and are targeted by people as if you were on both tiles (or all tiles travelled to/from) that phase.

Path-Shaper, on 27 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 November 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'm just going to straight up admit I don't understand locations and moves at all...

Next ToD game P-S I think moves should happen in-between phases so we don't have to worry about effects and timings of inter-tile things

Perhaps that's an idea - although some players are going to curse you: they have been jumping tiles and collecting benefits from multiple tiles for most of the game so far.

And this is why I don't understand the tiles!!!

Careless wording on my part. The Northern Desert is an ongoing effect: it checks are you there? Then immune to actions from outside. The check says 'no' as soon as you leave it.
Effects that say 'once per phase, collect X' have a check that checks if the ability has been used yet.

I realise that I shot way past the mark with the tiles and travel (and a couple of other things) - I guess ToD 1.0 is more like a beta than a 1.0

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Somebody said they had the Day 1 transactions copied? I'd really like to see them posted. There might be a clue to a character's identity in there. Which could also be the reason they got "accidentally deleted". Something along the lines of the Day 5 "G48T - 1 of Tepan's Charm for the price of 3000 dinari wholesale" clue that Tepan might be in the game.

That was me. See, I wasn't just being a hero. Fools. I'll post it here but only with P-S's permission. Or he can post it here. Whichever.

you can, if you like.

[Tulas Shorn]

Path-Shaper, on 27 November 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 27 November 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Somebody said they had the Day 1 transactions copied? I'd really like to see them posted. There might be a clue to a character's identity in there. Which could also be the reason they got "accidentally deleted". Something along the lines of the Day 5 "G48T - 1 of Tepan's Charm for the price of 3000 dinari wholesale" clue that Tepan might be in the game.

That was me. See, I wasn't just being a hero. Fools. I'll post it here but only with P-S's permission. Or he can post it here. Whichever.

you can, if you like.

Day 1 Bazaar transactions:

Hugin & Munin, on 12 November 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

C1P - 1 of Amulet, for a price of 10 000 dinari wholesale.

Quote

It is my honor to present you with the opportunity to order an amulet
for a price of 10 000 dinari. Choose 2 of the following statistics:
* +1 Leadership
* produces 500 dinari once each cycle.
* produces 1 Magic once each cycle.
* grants the owner + X/+1 Life Points
* phase: any. Cost: destroy this item. Do an alignment find on target player.
* phase: night. Cost: destroy this item and pay 3000 dinari. perform a kill with Combat Strength 1 that does 1 Life Point damage to target player if it succeeds.
* phase: any. Cost: destroy this item. Heal 1/X Life Points.

G1k - 2 of Jewelery, for a price of 2500 dinari per piece.
I1Y - 1 of Rider's Exquisite Crested Helmet for a price of 10 000

Quote

Rider's Exquisite Crested Helmet

+2 CS
+1 CS and +2 Leadership if you control a Mount
Special 1: after winning a battle, gain 1 Worship, 1 Politics and 1000 dinari.
"A commander who rides with the cavalry does so because he is eager for glory and the spoils it gives, not for victory." - Eyla the Scimitar

G2A - 2 Water, for a price of 1000 dinari per piece. 1 water
I2E - 1 of Spearman's Fortified Shield, for a price of 10 000 dinari

Quote

Spearman's Fortified Shield
+4 CS
-2 CS while in an assassination or duel.
When defending in a battle, all your unused Retainers gain +1 CS each.
When attacking in a battle, all your unused Retainers have -1 CS each.
When you win an assassination or duel, the loser suffers only 1 Life Point at maximum instead of the stipulated number.

G3K - 4 mud, for a price of 500 dinari per piece.
G4Y - 4 Livestock, for a price of 2000 dinari per piece.
C2R - Earn extra dinari on goods sold

Quote

It is my honor to present you with the opportunity to earn 500 extra dinari per good you sell on the next day phase, in return for the modest fee of 1500 dinari. If bought, place the number of goods sold in Roman numerals in BLUE behind this contract.

G5Z - 2 metal,for a price of 1000 dinarii each.
G7S - 1 Monument, 2500 dinari wholesale.
G8V - 1 Slave, 500 dinari wholesale
C9A - Heal

Quote

It is my honour to present you with the opportunity to be targetted with a heal on night 1, in return for the modest fee of 1000 dinari. In addition to the regular effects of a heal action, the player also gains +1/+0 Life Points immediately.

I3G 1 of Marching Orders, for a price of 2500 dinari

Quote

Destroy Marching Orders and target one of your Retainers. It gains +1 CS until the end of the phase.

G9R - 1 Glass, 1000 dinari wholesale.
G10Q - 1 Glass, 500 dinari wholesale.
G11P - 2 Leather, 4000 dinari wholesale.